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0+1(I1) Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: Mar. 2011 Posted: Aug. 31 2011, 22:48 TO ALL MEMBERS, & VISITING FANS, Has anyone got a defined answer to why our MaestrO Mike O has got the label\Title of the "DARK STAR". I do not know how the rest of his fans see him but I see him as a bringer of light not darkness. -------------- L◎ST ◎MMADAWN VERSI◎N RIDDLE ANSWER  mIChaeI GOrDOn OIDfIeId. =  I C   1  G◎D   OO ID I I or replace the L's that were turned in to I's & 1 gets ID◎L G◎LD ID◎L (4 ANSWER IN FULL + EXPLANATION, C ALBUM SECTION/☮MMADAWN/i-say-i-say-i-say-i-say-in-answer4XXX4Acr⊕ss Back to top

Olivier Group: Super Admins Posts: 1868 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: Sep. 01 2011, 12:14 ♦ ¿ × ÷ Reference to Star Wars? During the first half, there are some instruments that sound like slick laser blasters. ⅔ † ‡ µ ¢ £ € « » ♠ I hear it more dark than light, it's aggressive in a non introspective way (like with Ommadawn, it's like he is aggressive towards himself, this is more like he wants to "kill" you), a bit like a weapon indeed, in my opinion. ° © ® ™ • ½ ¼ ¾ ⅓ ♣ ♥ ± ∞ π I find fascinating, and most of the time ridiculous, musicians who act like their instrument is a weapon. I think there was a James Bond track like that. Back to top

Philippe Tavares Group: Members Posts: 1613 Joined: Feb. 2005 Posted: Sep. 01 2011, 14:03 Quote (Olivier @ Sep. 01 2011, 18:14) ....who act like their instrument is a weapon.... ......what about Stalin's organs ? Back to top

0+1(I1) Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: Mar. 2011 Posted: Sep. 01 2011, 16:01 Thank you for those interesting answers. Am I right in what I read into your reply Olivier, that you are saying you see MO as DARK?.  I do not find his music dark or evil in anyway, to my ears he works in the LIGHT(+)SHADE but not the Dark, so I am surprised to read you write that which you did. I can see he likes to be a man of mystery & remain private at MOst times! making jokes/light of MOst serious questions that pass his way, being quite directional in what he wants so say! like a politician avoiding or skirting the questions he feels may take him into deep water & in this way it might be considered fair to call him dark, being far better than shady. To me his music & works are surely not to be rated as dark! take the games they are quite heavenly, sorry but NO I see & hear his works as on the side of light & GOOODNESS. OLIVIER you also wrote: [ Reference to Star Wars? During the first half, there are some instruments that sound like slick laser blasters.].  Is this a well defined answer or a guess?/riddle¿ if it is meant to be a genuine answer please could you shed light on how one can find the relative information in order that I can make an informed judgement on it's accuracy as I currently am in darkness as to the true meaning of your words. I also thought Mike being called the DARK STAR predated the production STARWARS by several years, did it not?. TT please explain what MISSILS have to do with the answer to the DARK STAR naming\label 4 MO, in what you wrote: [what about Stalin's organs ?] Thank you for your help in finding the answer. To reiterate (so as to keep this topic on track, in order to hopefully arrive at a clear answer).  I will ask again.           TO ALL MEMBERS, & VISITING FANS, Has anyone got a WELL DEFINED answer to why our MaestrO Mike O has got the label\Title of the DARK STAR ★!. -------------- L◎ST ◎MMADAWN VERSI◎N RIDDLE ANSWER  mIChaeI GOrDOn OIDfIeId. =  I C   1  G◎D   OO ID I I or replace the L's that were turned in to I's & 1 gets ID◎L G◎LD ID◎L (4 ANSWER IN FULL + EXPLANATION, C ALBUM SECTION/☮MMADAWN/i-say-i-say-i-say-i-say-in-answer4XXX4Acr⊕ss Back to top

Philippe Tavares Group: Members Posts: 1613 Joined: Feb. 2005 Posted: Sep. 01 2011, 16:17 It was for what Olivier said about instruments and weapons ! Why Dark Star ? really don't know ! I guess it's only the name of the magazine on MO official website ! ...well Mike likes sci-fi maybe it's a "debut of explanation" ...???... Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Sep. 01 2011, 16:42 Olivier, I honestly find your re℗ly very mean and disrespectful.ɷ ȢȢȢ Ὗou should have used AT LEAST three times as many silly symbols in your text. ∆ Also, you missed a few unEXplainable upper case letteRs. ᴪ۞ᴪ -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

0+1(I1) Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: Mar. 2011 Posted: Sep. 01 2011, 17:21 Thank you TT for your guess at a answer.  I sent his fanzine an email earlier today asking if they knew the answer, I can only hope that through all the changes over the years that there have been in the people who publish DARK STAR that someone will hold the knowledge of the facts, yet this is probably a long shot. Moving away from his fanzine for an answer what do people know about the naming of parts of his music in association with the term Dark star as this is far more of a link to MO directly linking himself to the name\term. -------------- L◎ST ◎MMADAWN VERSI◎N RIDDLE ANSWER  mIChaeI GOrDOn OIDfIeId. =  I C   1  G◎D   OO ID I I or replace the L's that were turned in to I's & 1 gets ID◎L G◎LD ID◎L (4 ANSWER IN FULL + EXPLANATION, C ALBUM SECTION/☮MMADAWN/i-say-i-say-i-say-i-say-in-answer4XXX4Acr⊕ss Back to top

0+1(I1) Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: Mar. 2011 Posted: Sep. 01 2011, 18:49 Quote (Sir Mustapha @ Sep. 01 2011, 23:42) Olivier, I honestly find your re℗ly very mean and disrespectful.ɷ ȢȢȢ Ὗou should have used AT LEAST three times as many silly symbols in your text. ∆ Also, you missed a few unEXplainable upper case letteRs. ᴪ۞ᴪ SⓜS! ⓜle alert! I see you are back with your highly informative comments which seem as always to undermine the foundations of a constructive debate or subject from reaching a sensible conclusion. I am attempting to ROW upstream & you p●p up and yet again just want to put y●ur DENT in the topic in a m●le like way you now accuse OLIVIER of not being respectful, & appear to be calling him a disrespectful A***● in placing this sign [ɷ] a derriere at the end of y●ur sentence!. Well I must say it is not Olivier who is disrespectful it is y●u. You then go on to to show us your mastery of symbols that makes no further sense at all to the eyes or minds here.  Well I am sorry but I do hope you can find it in yourself to find an understanding to leave well alone that which you do not know, as playing with fire you may find you are ill equipped to control its spread. Hence one who is ∆ unfair hand or blow!!! should OM hard in silence before they cast their shadow on the world.  In replacing the light with your darkness, be sure you have the required tools to handle that which you blow on.  MY hope for you is that one day if you blow hard enough "who knows" your spark, it may ignite! & light a candle in your darkness. MR Mustapha you appear to be of a disruptive nature so please now understand that I will no longer respond to posts you make as advised to do by others, I will unless you have written something of interest just ignore your posts and move on as if you do not exist. -------------- L◎ST ◎MMADAWN VERSI◎N RIDDLE ANSWER  mIChaeI GOrDOn OIDfIeId. =  I C   1  G◎D   OO ID I I or replace the L's that were turned in to I's & 1 gets ID◎L G◎LD ID◎L (4 ANSWER IN FULL + EXPLANATION, C ALBUM SECTION/☮MMADAWN/i-say-i-say-i-say-i-say-in-answer4XXX4Acr⊕ss Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Sep. 01 2011, 18:52 As far as I know, "Dark Star" was never a label or a name or a title for Mike Oldfield himself. It was the title of a track on Tubular Bells II, which has got indeed a very dark mood (at least to me), and the fanzine took its title from the song. Mike himself cannot possibily be labelled a Dark Star because, as eye-one so rightly said, his music doesn't characterize him as such at all. If, on the other hand, eye-one's question was "Why is the track 'Dark Star' called like that?", then I think I have the answer. It is most probably a reference to this film. I know that the band Dark Star (the 80s "hair metal" British band who did "Kaptain America" and "The Musician", both posted somewhere here by me) took their name from that film. Anyway, I've never given much importance to the TBII track titles. They sound to me very much like placeholder titles that eventually stuck. Especially, I think that titles like "Sunjammer", "Sunset Door" and "Maya Gold" bear very, very, very little relation to the actual musical content of the pieces. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Olivier Group: Super Admins Posts: 1868 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: Sep. 01 2011, 19:19 Oh I misread the topic. I was thinking of TB2 Dark Star. You see, your irritating pompous symbols make you hard to read. I had no clue Mike was called Dark Star. So now why did he call a track with his nickname, and why this particular track? Back to top

0+1(I1) Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: Mar. 2011 Posted: Sep. 01 2011, 19:52 Quote (Ugo @ Sep. 02 2011, 01:52) As far as I know, "Dark Star" was never a label or a name or a title for Mike Oldfield himself. It was the title of a track on Tubular Bells II, which has got indeed a very dark mood (at least to me), and the fanzine took its title from the song. Mike himself cannot possibily be labelled a Dark Star because, as eye-one so rightly said, his music doesn't characterize him as such at all. If, on the other hand, eye-one's question was "Why is the track 'Dark Star' called like that?", then I think I have the answer. It is most probably a reference to this film. I know that the band Dark Star (the 80s "hair metal" British band who did "Kaptain America" and "The Musician", both posted somewhere here by me) took their name from that film. Anyway, I've never given much importance to the TBII track titles. They sound to me very much like placeholder titles that eventually stuck. Especially, I think that titles like "Sunjammer", "Sunset Door" and "Maya Gold" bear very, very, very little relation to the actual musical content of the pieces. Ugo I think you could well be onto something there!!! after a quick read it does indeed look a very likely source for the title. I had heard rumour that it came from a film but could not find which one, then of course in line of the recent findings and people now hinting at other possible reasons for this name\title, I feel it would be good to get the record straight.   UGO I HOPE YOU DO NOT MIND MY REPOSTING YOUR LINK HERE:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Star_%28film%29 (as I would feel it sad if some missed your link above) In the write up I noticed the term "LET THERE BE LIGHT" the film seems on first glance to fit rather well with Mikes music & videos. Dark Star the fanzine has been to the best of my knowledge going since the mid eighties or before as in around about 1990 I meet up with the new people who had taken over from the previous fans who ran  it & I am fairly sure the publication issue number was already in the mid to late teens. Regarding the track on TBII "DARK STAR" yes this was what I was asking but is there not another track somewhere in his work that has a name including XXXX words + Dark Star in it's title?. Once again a big THANK YOU for this info Ugo your a bright ☆ in a dark sky. -------------- L◎ST ◎MMADAWN VERSI◎N RIDDLE ANSWER  mIChaeI GOrDOn OIDfIeId. =  I C   1  G◎D   OO ID I I or replace the L's that were turned in to I's & 1 gets ID◎L G◎LD ID◎L (4 ANSWER IN FULL + EXPLANATION, C ALBUM SECTION/☮MMADAWN/i-say-i-say-i-say-i-say-in-answer4XXX4Acr⊕ss Back to top

0+1(I1) Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: Mar. 2011 Posted: Sep. 01 2011, 20:15 Quote (Olivier @ Sep. 02 2011, 02:19) Oh I misread the topic. I was thinking of TB2 Dark Star. You see, your irritating pompous symbols make you hard to read. I had no clue Mike was called Dark Star. So now why did he call a track with his nickname, and why this particular track? I apologise I had no idea that symbols could be so annoying, I always believed them to be kind and informative to the eyes & without boundary to the mind, truly international even universal in understanding.  Hopefully a bit like music in the graphical form without words a sort of song in art. Well again sorry if you feel it was pompous of me to use them for effect.  I will from now on only use them when I really have no choice. ((( if anyone else feels this way please let me know))) Yours regretfully I1... PS.    ARE EMOTICONS OK THEN?. -------------- L◎ST ◎MMADAWN VERSI◎N RIDDLE ANSWER  mIChaeI GOrDOn OIDfIeId. =  I C   1  G◎D   OO ID I I or replace the L's that were turned in to I's & 1 gets ID◎L G◎LD ID◎L (4 ANSWER IN FULL + EXPLANATION, C ALBUM SECTION/☮MMADAWN/i-say-i-say-i-say-i-say-in-answer4XXX4Acr⊕ss Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4770 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: Sep. 01 2011, 22:22 Quote (Ugo @ Sep. 01 2011, 18:52) Mike himself cannot possibily be labelled a Dark Star because, as eye-one so rightly said, his music doesn't characterize him as such at all. On a very literal level, he is a star, and also a dark-haired person. A dark-complexioned peaceful person   Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: Sep. 05 2011, 17:02 Dark Star was the name of the horse that won the Kentucky Derby the year that Mike was born, i.e., in 1953. You can even watch the winning race, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBBvKILL1IM -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

0+1(I1) Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: Mar. 2011 Posted: Sep. 11 2011, 01:13 Inkanta that is a very well thought out possibility or coincidence as upon looking the horse Dark Star winner of the Kentucky Derby in May 1953 does indeed link very nicely with Mike's date of birth    it's a shame the race was not run on the 15th & at the Epsom Derby in England! if it had been I think you might of been onto a clear winner 2to1 for trying & we will keep it in the running hay, straight from the horses mouth they say yet not so stable an answer  as one might of hoped for, so nay     Dear Readers of this Topic I have now been supplied information Which I hope will bring us out from the darkness about at least some of the issues in this topic and in so doing shed light upon the naming of the fanzine DARK STAR. Over the past week or so I have been in correspondence with the only remaining editor of the publication and he has given me his blessing in agreeing that I can share his words with you as in the following posts I will do. What follows is a copy of the relevant parts of my letter to the fanzine:- ----------------------------------------------------------- Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 6:21 PM To: chris@mikeoldfield.org Subject: I am seeking an answer to how Mike got the Title DARK STAR, or/and when your publication first used this name?. Dear Sir/Madam, As stated in the subject line of this email I wish to identify why Mike O has acquired such a strange title as I see him as a bright star not Dark one, i.e. did he coin it for himself or was it applied to him by the first publishers of this fanzine.  Also I would like to know when the very first issue was released/pressed. Any info you have will be most gratefully received!!! MANY THANKS 0+1(I1) at Tubular. Net or Liam Ioan O'neaI1... --------------------------------------------------------- Mr Chris Dewey very kindly replied very swiftly, (in fact I was amazed I was expecting to wait at least days if not weeks! ) with his reply copied & pasted below:- ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Dewey Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:34 AM To: 'EyeOne' Subject: RE: I am seeking an answer to how Mike got the Title DARK STAR, or/and when your publication first used this name?. Hi Liam You’ve reached the best person to answer this relating to the fanzine, as I started the first incarnation of the magazine back in 1986, and have been the only common thread in running Dark Star through the years! The fanzine name “Dark Star” was adopted in 1994. Mike himself has seen some very troubled times in his life, and I believe the panic attacks and difficulties he experienced have driven him to create his most powerful music. Now that he is more content in his life, his music has of course adopted a very different style, much calmer, yet still very beautiful. As to why the Tubular Bells II track was titles this way, I’ve never heard Mike answer this, so maybe a good one for a future interview! Hope this helps? Best regards Chris Dewey (Editor, Dark Star) Dark Star, the official Mike Oldfield Magazine www.mikeoldfield.org If you would like to support the service (which is run by unpaid volunteers on a not for profit basis), the costs of running it are met from the sale of merchandise and subscriptions to Dark Star magazine. -------------- L◎ST ◎MMADAWN VERSI◎N RIDDLE ANSWER  mIChaeI GOrDOn OIDfIeId. =  I C   1  G◎D   OO ID I I or replace the L's that were turned in to I's & 1 gets ID◎L G◎LD ID◎L (4 ANSWER IN FULL + EXPLANATION, C ALBUM SECTION/☮MMADAWN/i-say-i-say-i-say-i-say-in-answer4XXX4Acr⊕ss Back to top

0+1(I1) Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: Mar. 2011 Posted: Sep. 11 2011, 01:58 In continuation from my last posting.  I sent the below in reply to Mr C Dewey's letter as in the above posting. Here is my reply:- From: EyeOne Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 5:38 AM To: Chris Dewey Subject: Re: I am seeking an answer to how Mike got the Title DARK STAR, or/and when your publication first used this name?. * further QUESTIONS* Dear Chris, Thank you for your prompt reply, I note in it that you say you started the first incarnation of the fanzine back in 86, by this do you mean there was one before this date?. Back in the early nineties I did once meet up with the people then running Dark Star somewhere near a place called Caterham in Surrey, would this of been you?. Also prior to coming to see you or them I had the privilege to visit Mikes home a couple of times back in 1992  in Chalfont ST Giles & it was they who told me to make contact with the new people who were running his fanzine, they said it had been taken over from the fans who were running it before due to intimacy problems & financial concerns, and at the time I sadly did not think to ask who or where had the name DARK STAR COME FROM? as I see Mike as a star of light in the darkness & think it is a very strange title for one such as Mike to be associated with anything other than brightness. In your attached reply I did not detect an answer as to where the fanzines name came from, or who coined the name, do you know?.  This knowledge certainly does seem to be in the dark as no one so far has a clue, many comments have been made & even I have written about Mike liking to be a dark horse as a possible explanation but it would be far better to have something more definite. I have tried various points of making contact directly with Mike but one never knows who you may be dealing with on the Internet, and it worries me that some of these face book pages could be of dark intent, I also contacted his brother Terry & tried what appears to be his Skype address but all have blanked so far.  What you should know is that I have got together with a group of fans/followers of Mike's music & WORKS! in order to try to make sense of the symbolism & meanings behind his work including not only the music but games & artwork & believe you me we are astounded by what we believe we have found. Before you maybe start thinking "hang on this all sounds a bit freaky" or you start to think this person could be a stalker please remember I have known Mikes address since 1992 & if I was a danger to him I would of acted long ago & not waited for 20 years.  All I and the others in the group seek to know & find out is what all these things mean, or if we are right in what we have interpreted so far & above all else is Mike happy that we go public with our findings.  As it does concern us all that we may be going against his wishes & if he was just to let us know we could stop & disband or at least keep it amongst ourselves. So if you have any direct contact with Mike can you say (a very OLD OLD OLD 3 times fan has tried very hard to contact you to find out if he should be opening his bag of secrets) I know this may sound strange to you but it is strange to me/us also & if I were alone in what I now have seen I would be worried about my sanity but luckily this is not the case we are many in number and all together in what we agree we see. If Mike draws a blank on the "OLD OLD OLD" then maybe you could ask him about "IDOL GOLD IDOL" or even "I C 1 GOD  OO ID I I" or  "MO AA RR KK" as in they entered 2 by 2, well I feel I should leave it there for now but I must tell you there is tons more where these came from!. I do hope you read and receive this in the good faith in which it was sent, now on behalf of the group I would like to finish by thanking you for your time and say I/we now look forward to receiving your reply. Yours truly CIAO Liam or I1. PS. please do not let this freak you out, we call our group the EYES or "I"'s of the many (0+1 = I1 & O+I = the 3 parts of the Celtic Cross.  I1 or in words "Eye One" & in Spanish OjO unO )  I am head "I" or I1, we are not a cult! only a group that is searching for the truth...       ------------------------------------------------------------ His reply:- From: Chris Dewey Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 11:49 AM To: 'EyeOne' Subject: RE: I am seeking an answer to how Mike got the Title DARK STAR, or/and when your publication first used this name?. * further QUESTIONS* Hi Liam The history of the fanzine is quite long, but the short version is as follows: In 1982, Janet Jeal started an official fan club. She was an old school friend of Mike’s then partner, Sally Arnold. That official club was advertised on Crises, but closed in 1985 after running out of money. I then started a small unofficial fanzine in 1986 with the help of my late schoolfriend Paul Beard. This grew quite quickly, and I invited Michael Kuleczko, a friend and fellow fan to help running the club, with also then merged with Peter Evans’ View from the Beacon in the early nineties. Peter lived in Coulsdon, Surrey, so it could have been him that you met with. Peter and I chose the name Dark Star for the fanzine, and there was no more symbolism or deeper thought in the choice of the name than explained in the first email. We began sending copies to Mike’s manager, Clive Banks of what was at that point an unofficial magazine. Clive then invited us to become official, and we went from there, subsequently also incorporating David Porter’s Airbone fanzine as well. Peter Evans left the team in the late nineties due to diminishing interest, and Paul Harris, was then invited to join the editorial team. I am the only remaining original member of the team. If you would like to send a message to Mike, I would be happy to forward this, as he prefers not to share his contact details publically. Best regards Chris Dewey (Editor, Dark Star) Dark Star, the official Mike Oldfield Magazine www.mikeoldfield.org http://www.mikeoldfield.org/ If you would like to support the service (which is run by unpaid volunteers on a not for profit basis), the costs of running it are met from the sale of merchandise and subscriptions to Dark Star magazine. For details of subscription to Dark Star, please visit www.mikeoldfield.org/magazine http://www.mikeoldfield.org/magazine -------------- L◎ST ◎MMADAWN VERSI◎N RIDDLE ANSWER  mIChaeI GOrDOn OIDfIeId. =  I C   1  G◎D   OO ID I I or replace the L's that were turned in to I's & 1 gets ID◎L G◎LD ID◎L (4 ANSWER IN FULL + EXPLANATION, C ALBUM SECTION/☮MMADAWN/i-say-i-say-i-say-i-say-in-answer4XXX4Acr⊕ss Back to top

0+1(I1) Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: Mar. 2011 Posted: Sep. 11 2011, 02:13 I then replied to the above:- Dear Chris, Thank you yet again for such a speedy reply if every one in Greece was as efficient the country would be world leaders. I think you have now answered this question for me! but I must check if you are happy that I include the details you have supplied in informing the other members here, i.e. are you happy for your answer to be copied onto Tubular. Net forum.  I if I have your agreement will also add a link on the page to DARK STAR fanzine. With regard to making contact with Mike, it is very kind of you to offer to pass on my message! I will write something soon.  In the mean time could you let me know if the messages you pass on go directly to Mike or via others vetting eyes, as some of what I wish to say would make little sense to anyone other than Mike or a fan of long standing & I fear it would be discarded under the MAD STALKER ALERT BUTTON if you get my drift. I can fully understand you not wishing to break Mike's trust by supplying me with details of your contact point & of this I would not ask you to divulge but because I am concerned that the messages I have already sent may have gone astray I would like to ask you if you know if the person behind the links I already have are to Mike because it is very hard to have faith in who you could be writing to on the Internet & thus this makes it very awkward to write to the person whilst having to be so careful what you say just in case it is someone other than the true addressee that reads it, i.e. a reporter or stalker hoping to get dirt or/& news, or personal info on him.  This has meant that what I write has to be very cryptic or I am stuck with having to ask questions that he alone would be able to answer in order to try and gain confidence in who the person is behind the mask.  I hope you can understand, this is not the best way to initiate a communication in asking them to prove they are them selves and hence may of sadly lead to him ignoring my messages as those of a weirdo. The contact points I have used to date are these that I believe to be genuine please can you if you know anything about the credibility of these let me know:- http://en-gb.facebook.com/people....8333061  email address michaelgordonoldfield@hotmail.com , & via Skype I have sent messages to Mike Oldfield (the contact who shows a picture of the cover of TB). These are some others I tried but I am somewhat concerned that the people behind these are not who they should be  mike_oldfield_@hotmail.com this person appears to be the person running this site http://www.mike-oldfield.es/respuesta.asp?idtopic=613&idforo=24 which although it is largely a wonderful site it has this awful story on it that I have been attempting to get removed,  this is one of the reasons I wished to contact Mike also to alert him to the fact that so many people seem to be fanning his ID. In order to read the story HISTORY OF AMAROK (please note it is very long & spread out over several pages) you will of course have to translate it but be warned it is not for the faint of heart! at one point it speaks of Mike having killed and eaten parts of a young girl, unless something has been lost in the translation & we do not think this is the case, so there is a really deluded or what appears to be a disturbed mind behind it's writing.  What is even more worrying to me is this MIKE(minus)BELL who runs the site appears to be cooperating in it's being on his site, there is even talk of this thing being made into a film with many members involved in it. In order to see the email of the person running the site on the bottom of the linked page above to the story or any of the pages on his site at the page end click on the name Mike-Bell (this is the sort cut as copied mailto:mike_oldfield_@hotmail.com ) and it will open your email program  & the address will show as this, to a [EMAIL=mike_oldfield_@hotmail.com.]mike_oldfield_@hotmail.com.[/EMAIL] I ask why not mike-oldfield-fanclub-es@xxxxx or something similar or better still there own name. I do hope you feel as I do about the above and that you will help me to get these issues properly addressed, I would suggest Mike needs to be made directly aware of the story and the people who appear to be using his ID to create a illusion that they are he, be stopped in so doing, as this can not be good for him or his fans & general business, it could lead to all sorts of problems.  Regarding the story some people whom I have approached for support have simply come back to me saying "it is only a story a bit of crazy fan type stuff and anyway it's under fan fiction! what harm can it do", well my argument to this is what if it got copied onto a page which did not make it clear that it was fiction it would not take a lot to make it read as fact based!  plus why on earth would a FAN SITE allow it space on it's pages, I would not! would you?. I do hope we will find & stand on common ground in this & that you will find faith in my having Michael's best interests at heart in what I write & do. Thank you for finding time & being kind enough to read this I am truly grateful for your help. Yours truly Liam Ioan O'neill... ---------------------------------------------------------- A little off topic now but still I hope supplying useful information to readers Chris replies:- From: Chris Dewey Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:21 AM To: 'EyeOne' Subject: RE: I am seeking an answer to how Mike got the Title DARK STAR, or/and when your publication first used this name?. * further QUESTIONS* (THANK YOU PLUS AMAROK STORY) Hi Liam I have no issue with you sharing the information I have provided you with. None of the email addresses you list are genuine contact points for Mike. 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0+1(I1) Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: Mar. 2011 Posted: Sep. 11 2011, 02:44 Mr Chris Dewey & my last correspondence. In reply I wrote this:- Sent: 06 September 2011 18:18 To: Chris Dewey Subject: Re: I am seeking an answer to how Mike got the Title DARK STAR, or/and when your publication first used this name?. * further QUESTIONS* (THANK YOU PLUS AMAROK STORY) *Reply* Dear Chris, Thank you for your agreement, I will add the information you supplied to T.net web site forum & accredit it to you & your Dark Star publication and provide a link to your site. I will also inform people there that you have said none of the links I showed you in my previous letter are bona fide contact points for Mike, I am sure this will come as quite a shock to some of them as many believe they have been accepted as friends on his? (Michael Gordon Oldfield genuine Face Book) page and hence will have wasted thousands of hours of their lives writing on a spoof page & sending a sicko mail they hoped would be read by Mike. I must ask prior to my breaking this news to the site if you are absolutely sure that this Face Book page is fake and not belonging to or monitored by Mike, as it appears that many  are convinced it is a genuine contact point for Mike & I do not wish to come across their wrath in saying it is not, without being able to say I have been assured this is so. The Skype account would you know if this is genuine?.  Because if it is not then none of my hundreds if not thousands of hours spent writing him mail have been of any value. Will you look into the Amarok story & tell me what you feel could or should be done? as I am concerned that it could really upset Mike or people close to him if they should happen to come across it, i.e. one of his children! as it may well out live him and he would not be there to explain it was not so, all fiction or deluded lies!.  I Hope, as I am sure you wish also, to see Mike go down in history as one of the worlds greatest citizens & thus I think anything that may one day besmirch his name should have his name removed from it unless true. I think it would help if Mike understood the issue regarding people thinking they are sending him mail via these spoof email addresses, as it could lead to some fans getting upset that he makes no reply or even worse if the person behind the various addresses takes advantage of the people in some way, i.e. gets them to send money or something even more horrific, as there are people whom are weak of mind out there who are gullible & easily taken in, good people who need protecting!. Perhaps the solution to this would be a for Mike to issue a list of these fake addresses on his bona fide site/sites, in order to inform people of what they can have faith in & what they can not. I will end by asking if you would be kind enough to let Mike know that I have been trying to make contact in order to bring these things to his attention, (which must according to what you now tell me not reached his attention) & of my concerns as above stated.  Lastly, that I have written many messages to him to find out whether he is happy for the group of the "I's to be publishing our findings, i.e. our interpretation of what the inscription on the abated shield in Maestro may mean. Yours gratefully Liam Ioan O'niell ------------------------------------------------------------ The reply Chris sent me was this:- I believe the Facebook page was created by the marketing team from his record company. Mike would probably change his account if it became public knowledge, so you can safely assume that any contact details in the public domain are not genuine. Chris http://www.mikeoldfield.org/ http://www.mikeoldfield.org/magazine ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- So readers & fellow members be warned it is unlikely to be MR M OLDFIELD the mystic MaestrO behind any link/email address you find!! I do hope my time in this is helpful to you all. -------------- L◎ST ◎MMADAWN VERSI◎N RIDDLE ANSWER  mIChaeI GOrDOn OIDfIeId. =  I C   1  G◎D   OO ID I I or replace the L's that were turned in to I's & 1 gets ID◎L G◎LD ID◎L (4 ANSWER IN FULL + EXPLANATION, C ALBUM SECTION/☮MMADAWN/i-say-i-say-i-say-i-say-in-answer4XXX4Acr⊕ss Back to top

0+1(I1) Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: Mar. 2011 Posted: Sep. 11 2011, 03:10 In order to save people the time in reading through all that is written in the above 4 postings I will here make clear the main points that are of topic heading. WHY IS MIKE called the DARK STAR? Well with a sigh of relief I think it is fair to say now that unless someone is keeping us in the dark regarding something they know about our brightest star MIKE O & how he sees himself then according to what Chris Dewey has written above it looks as if Mike played no part in the naming back in 1986 of his fanzine. Thus the fact that Mike uses this as a name for a part in TBII does hence not mean he is thinking himself to be a DARK STAR! only that the track maybe is of ???what??? a musical representation of the feeling one would get in encountering one? well I suppose that is yet another question for the bag of secrets!.  I hope you like what I have found so far, good luck & stay HAPPY I1... -------------- L◎ST ◎MMADAWN VERSI◎N RIDDLE ANSWER  mIChaeI GOrDOn OIDfIeId. =  I C   1  G◎D   OO ID I I or replace the L's that were turned in to I's & 1 gets ID◎L G◎LD ID◎L (4 ANSWER IN FULL + EXPLANATION, C ALBUM SECTION/☮MMADAWN/i-say-i-say-i-say-i-say-in-answer4XXX4Acr⊕ss Back to top

0+1(I1) Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: Mar. 2011 Posted: Sep. 11 2011, 04:21 I do hope readers will be kind enough to share their thanks with me to MR Chris Dewey for making all this information available to us here & spending his time in so doing, by visiting or even considering subscribing to the DARK STAR FANZINE HERE: http://www.mikeoldfield.org/magazine OR HERE: http://www.mikeoldfield.org/ Many, many thanks for your prompt replies Chris from myself & I am sure many others I1... -------------- L◎ST ◎MMADAWN VERSI◎N RIDDLE ANSWER  mIChaeI GOrDOn OIDfIeId. =  I C   1  G◎D   OO ID I I or replace the L's that were turned in to I's & 1 gets ID◎L G◎LD ID◎L (4 ANSWER IN FULL + EXPLANATION, C ALBUM SECTION/☮MMADAWN/i-say-i-say-i-say-i-say-in-answer4XXX4Acr⊕ss Back to top

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