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Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Aug. 04 2011, 14:11 As of yet, upcoming! But I'll use this thread to keep the updates. 3 7 4 11 2 5 is the album that I shall release in the next few days. The numbers refer to the proportions used to define certain aspects of the album and of the tracks: - The length in minutes of each track; - The number of times a different section of music is performed in a row in each track; - The number of half-beats in each measure of a single section of music. The first track of the album, 3, has been uploaded to YouTube. The next tracks shall be uploaded in the following days. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKFX0vE6wpk Yes, that is the cover of the album: an abstract drawing made with a ballpoint pen on the backpage of a notebook during a lecture on a national IT workshop, photographed with the lousy camera of a cellphone. Nothing more hardcore than that! -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

olracUK Group: Members Posts: 1683 Joined: June 2003 Posted: Aug. 04 2011, 20:02 Hmm - the doodle got more of my attention than the music I'm afraid to say. i see a face, possiby with glasses on , but certainly not a happy face. The music, good but not great. You've done better. To be more precise, I wanted the repeats to change speed and/or key sooner, to lift me higher. Having said that, the constraints you've set yourself, the numerical boundaries, are an artistic statement that I admire. To set a target, those numbers, is cool. But as a non musician - what do I know? -------------- The answer is 42 - but what is the question? Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Aug. 05 2011, 14:33 Thank you for the feedback! I understand what you mean with "good but not great", and I can relate to that. If my opinion is worth anything, though, I'd say that 3 is definitely not a highlight in this album. I have to say the repeats are definitely an integral part of the music, though, even though one of the challenges I set to myself was to give the songs a sense of motion and development in spite of them. Anyway, here is the second track, 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja13R8ch7a0 (as for the drawing, one was I interpret it is as a head in profile, with the crazy shapes and patterns being the person's "brain" -- but I like art when it's open to many viewspoints, so all is valid) -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Delfín Group: Members Posts: 667 Joined: Nov. 2000 Posted: Aug. 08 2011, 16:59 A bit jazzy, could it be??? synth jazz, could it be called?? Very curious the concept, I have listened to 3, but I haven't to the other one, I will in a minute. -------------- The most precious thing I possess, is knowing the answer's yes Back to top

Delfín Group: Members Posts: 667 Joined: Nov. 2000 Posted: Aug. 08 2011, 17:01 Very sinister, isn't it??? Still the quality of the sounds need to be better. But the complexity of the music overwhelms me. Try to work with Reason, it gives you tons of virtual instruments of an awesome quality. And carry on creating!!! -------------- The most precious thing I possess, is knowing the answer's yes Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Aug. 08 2011, 20:35 Funny you should say that: I used Reason to made nearly every sound. The only exception is the Mellotron flute, which was made with a free VST called "Tapeworm". I don't know what you mean with the quality being better, but in that particular track, I aimed for a darkish, ugly sound. On a very contrasting note, here is 4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZnCzuE4jw -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Delfín Group: Members Posts: 667 Joined: Nov. 2000 Posted: Aug. 08 2011, 20:57 4 is the one I like the most!! I didn't notice you are Sir Mustapha as well. Wish you good luck my brother!! I'll keep putting an ear! -------------- The most precious thing I possess, is knowing the answer's yes Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Aug. 10 2011, 09:00 Now this track, I admit, may be a test of the listener's patience. If you managed to understand the pattern followed by the track so far, you'll understand; if not, just listen. This is 11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZe1iu07-II -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

olracUK Group: Members Posts: 1683 Joined: June 2003 Posted: Aug. 10 2011, 20:33 Ahh..Fernie...  Big round of applause!.. "11" is super cool, "4" Good and "7" erm so far in my estimation. I love the sound palette you've used in "11" - very B&W Parisian 60's movie feel. The drum programming especially appealed to me, and that is a core part of this numbering philosophy. I have to ask though - how did you choose the number patterns? Are they your phone number? A lottery ticket? Or your families she sizes? -------------- The answer is 42 - but what is the question? Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Aug. 11 2011, 09:40 Ah, the numbers themselves! You know, when I created the concept, I was thinking of generating the numbers randomly, because the idea was to really challenge myself. But I was already toying with song ideas, so I sketched down these numbers by chance. And later on, I realised they summed up to 32, which would make the music more symmetrical and less "weird for weirdness's sake", so I decided to keep them. There's no meaning behind the numbers; they're supposed to "look" random, even though they were hand-penned, therefore not random at all. I'll post 2 later on today. Thanks for all the input! EDIT: 2 is here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyCB-YKe6dk -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Aug. 18 2011, 16:22 It surely took a long while, but all six tracks are now published on YouTube. 5 rounds off the set in a pretty quirky manner. In the next few weeks, I'm hoping, the whoe album will be available in other websites and in higher quality. For now, enjoy the videos! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAAycdOg7Ns -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Aug. 24 2011, 16:42 The album has now been published in Jamendo. This is the "compiled" version of the album, which is the preferred version to listen to: all tracks follow each other without any breaks, and the whole set lasts exactly 32 minutes -- according to the numeric pattern. The link: 3 7 4 11 2 5 The tracks are also available in 24 bit FLAC format on the Internet Archive HERE. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Jesse Group: Members Posts: 394 Joined: Aug. 2007 Posted: Sep. 28 2011, 17:00 My biggest gripe with reason is that it sounds so thin! I like how you seem to jazz it up, ignoring harmony and sort of creating your own harmony. But for jazz it needs more grit! more bass...more real instruments. The music sounds like a tiger/panter/big cat walking around in his cage, not knowing what to do. Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Sep. 29 2011, 08:15 Quote (Jesse @ Sep. 28 2011, 17:00) The music sounds like a tiger/panter/big cat walking around in his cage, not knowing what to do. I like that analogy! It has a negative and a positive connotation, and it truly evokes to me the image of confinement that the album's "framework" caused. I was aiming more for an "abstract electronic" sound of this album. The "jazz" influence was more incidental, and I didn't want to try to emulate real instruments too much. There's a limit to what you can do with computers, so I preferred to aim somewhere else. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Jesse Group: Members Posts: 394 Joined: Aug. 2007 Posted: Sep. 29 2011, 13:59 Yea it is pretty good Back to top

Jesse Group: Members Posts: 394 Joined: Aug. 2007 Posted: Oct. 03 2011, 13:40 7 is better than 3 though. Nice surreal track. Back to top

HR lover Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: Sep. 2010 Posted: Nov. 27 2011, 08:51 Cool music you make Fernie. 7 sounds breakcore-ish. Did you use D-blue glitch for that or effectrix or neither? Cool that you used tapeworm. The tweakbench VSTs are fun. I really dig 11 by the way. It's great. -------------- Neither a borrower nor a lender be, For loan oft loses both itself and friend, And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry. Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Nov. 27 2011, 09:58 Thanks a lot! Pretty much the whole album was produced on Reason plugged into Cubase. The glitchy drums on 7 are, if I recall correctly, drum samples run through some harsh distortion; I just used a few snare sounds with different tunings to make them "walk" up and down. I didn't go very crazy with plug-ins and VST's this time around, but I'll expand on that on my next work. I'll surely check those two out. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

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