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Posted: July 12 2005, 06:04

Here are the Mike Oldfield covers/samples I have:

Groove Coverage - Moonlight Shadow (A bit half assed, but not too bad)
Missing Heart - Moonlight Shadow (Featured in DDR videogame. Not too bad - though a little cheesy. It's annoying though because most of the net nerds think of this when you say 'Moonlight Shadow' not realising it was a classic written by Mike.)
Aselin Debison - Moonlight Shadow (Steer clear! It's awful!!;)
Blind Guardian - To France (Meh, not bad.)
Novaspace - To France (I like this one)
Book of Love - Tubular Bells (Pretty Boys and Pretty Girls) (Horrible funky house song which attempts to sample the TB opening without even getting the notes right)

Do any of you have any others, and what are your opinions of the ones you do have?
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Posted: July 12 2005, 06:50

How about "Father Lucifer" by Tori Amos? It ends with the beginning riff of "Tubular Bells".

I think there is a discography somewhere that covers the covers.


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Posted: July 12 2005, 22:16

If you mean only official releases without the fan covers, my answer to the "how many" questions is 176 tracks - as I collect them. Though 61 of them are Moonlight Shadow-remixes and 56 are TB-mixes. Most of these mixes are fanciless dance remixes and I usually dislike those. If I had to name some that worth mentoning, they would include:

Dana Winner: Moonlight Shadow - A structurally improved remix with more buildup and "fantasy feeling". It's a shame that the solo was almost completely left out. But I particularly like how the climax "blows out" nicely at the end.
Koto: Moonlight Shadow - I like Koto music very much. However, I don't think MS fits the distinctive italodisco style well enough. It's still good to hear but it should cause no surprises for those who know what Koto is.
Takako Minekawa: Moonlight Shadow - It's just funny to hear Moonlight Shadow with Japanese pronounciation. :) The beginning is nicely restful, the climax is in contrast slightly "pompous" but certainly not unpleasant. However there are some strangenesses here, especially at the end when bells play the main theme on an unusual bass line and the huge drums play the rhythm.
Claudio Simonetti: Tubular Bells - Jazzish interpretation of The Exorcist theme with an ordinary synth solo.
Jack Parnell Orchestra: Tubular Bells Part Two - A piece with A-B-A structure. The A part is practically the orchestral version of the single remix of the Bagpipe Guitars theme. IMHO way more beautiful in orchestration than the same excerpt on TOTB. And then a sudden change to the B part which in contrast a speedy musical-like rework of the same theme. At the very end it turns out that this melody is quite fit in a medieval orchestration, too.
Michel Simone: Tubular Bells - Some piano improvisations upon The Exorcist theme. It's quite mellow to listen to.
Percy Faith: Tubular Bells - Finale and Introduction part in Exposed/Guilty style with full orchestra. The modified introduction melody is quite interesting and works well and despite the old disco-ish feeling, it's not played in 8/8 all the way.
Blind Guardian: To France - It's a quite famous cover but I don't find the power in it, although it's supposed to be somewhere there...
Maggie Reilly: To France - A decent cover with some nice bagpipe sounds and good guitar playing. I miss the climax of the original though.
Crystal: Itt megtalálsz - A Hungarian To France cover, quite popular here in Hungary. In an interview a band member said: "Mike Oldfield quickly allowed us to do this cover, it took only two weeks. When we sent it to him, he said: It's better than the original one." Well, I disagree with Mike in this matter. :) It's not bad though, quite similar to the original, just a bit more pop oriented in the rhythm. It's really well produced but this one also lacks some more power in the climax part - although not as much as Maggie's version.
Michele Torr: Donne-Moi La Main, Donne-Moi L'Amour - It's a French cover of the 'Sana Rosana' bit of Taurus II. It's almost identical to the original aside from the French lyrics but it goes a bit dull at the end; still it's an interesting choice of doing a cover.
Roger Chapman: Shadow on the Wall (Live) - A live version from an Roger Chapman concert in 1989. While it's still Shadow on the Wall, I really miss Mike's guitar playing and sound.
Zero Nine: Shadow on the Wall (Live) - I don't miss the power here. :) This is exactly what you'd expect from a metal cover of Shadow on the Wall.
Karel Plihal: Pohádka - A Czech On Horseback cover on a simple acoustic guitar. Again, the choice is strange. As I don't understand the Czech language, the words seem weird but it's definitely fun to listen to. :)


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Posted: July 12 2005, 23:15

I have a cd called Tubular Vibes which I only bought because I liked the warped Tubular Bells on the cover and it cost me a small fortune on Amazon.com.

Track Listing:

1 Bondee Systems - Tubular Bells part 4
2 Rey - Taurus
3 Kenton Files - Guilty
4 Sahid - Jewel in the Crown
5 Joseph featuring Ma Licious - The Funkie Tubular Bells
6 Kenton Files - Moonlight Shadow (unplugged version)
7 Copenhagen - High Place
8 Giorgio & Rey - Get to France
9 Ecstatica - Moonlight Shadow (dance version)
10 Rey Project featuring Ma Licious - The Blue Incantations
11 Giorgio & Rey - Five Miles Out
12 Joseph featuring Ma Licious - The Red Incantations
13 Rey featuring Ma Licious - The Tubular Connection

Very disappointing as I was expecting it to be all different artists but as you can see it is the same few, and the only two tracks worth listening to are 10 and 12 because I think remixes of tracks from Incantations would be rare, and they are nice.

I have a collection of Tubular Bells versions I downloaded off the net also but the artists listed are only who the person who uploaded them thinks they are so I think several are wrong, for example, 2 sets of 2 tracks I copied were indentical but had different artists listed.

If anyone knows any of these to be false please let me know.

Vangelis
Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Robert Miles - techno
Tangerine Dream
Goblin
DJ Karpin
X Press 2 feat David Bryne
Claudio Simonetti
Jean Michel Jarre
Rick Wakeman
Steve Hillage and David Bedford
Tori Amos - Little Lucifer
Philip Glass - TBIII shivver mix

I don't have all of these, still waiting to download them but will never happen.


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Posted: July 13 2005, 06:30

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If anyone knows any of these to be false please let me know.


well, definately false:

<Vangelis
Robert Miles - techno
Tangerine Dream
Philip Glass - TBIII shivver mix
Jean Michel Jarre>

I've sorted 'em out from a bunch of doenloads myself finding out that they were wrong-titled versions by other artists...

<Goblin>

that should be one of the Profondo Rosso-performances, I guess Ugo might be able to tell u more about.
:)

DJ Karpin

a former (?) mp3.com-artist, yes, that one exists.

<X Press 2 feat David Bryne>

that would be X Press 2 feat David BYRne, never heard of anythin' like a cover/sample-usin' by 'em...

<Claudio Simonetti>

correct

<Trans-Siberian Orchestra>

this *could* be Van Helsing's Curse, a TSO-influenced project by Dee Snider and the tune *could* be the 2nd track from the album "Oculus Infernum". I've also seen Champs Boys Orchestra's version titled as bein' TSO, so ....
:)  

<Rick Wakeman>

possibly from his 1995 released album Cirque Surreal

<Steve Hillage and David Bedford>

->  http://tubular.net/biography/74-75.shtml

<Tori Amos - Little Lucifer>

that would be "Father Lucifer" and if it's a studio-version, it will not include the TB-theme. Tori included the TB-theme at her gigs until 2001.


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Posted: July 13 2005, 07:07

Quote (dkaycom @ July 13 2005, 06:30)
<Tori Amos - Little Lucifer>

that would be "Father Lucifer" and if it's a studio-version, it will not include the TB-theme. Tori included the TB-theme at her gigs until 2001.

She's played the Tubular Bells theme several times during her current tour - not as the bridge in Father Lucifer but as the intro in Yes, Anastasia and Spring Haze: Tori Amos: Tubular Bells / Spring Haze (8-July-2005)
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Posted: July 13 2005, 08:27

I also have the TB by "Jarre and Vangelis" downloaded off the Net. This is the one that sounds like it was recorded in a shopping mall, and there is a loud electronic blat in it. I wonder who REALLY did it?

Also, there are a LOT of TB covers to be found in these "Top 40 Hits", "Greatest Movie Themes", etc collections from the mid 1970s that were produced by K-Tel or recorded by cheesy cover bands with names like "The Original Artists". I wonder if these were as common outside of the US?


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Posted: July 13 2005, 08:33

Quote (TubularBelle @ July 12 2005, 23:15)
[Tubular Vibes] Very disappointing as I was expecting it to be all different artists but as you can see it is the same few, and the only two tracks worth listening to are 10 and 12 because I think remixes of tracks from Incantations would be rare, and they are nice.

I pretty much agree. My main disappointment was that so much of the tracks are chained by that disco beat. I do like tracks 10 and 12. Imperfect as they are, covers of Incantations are very rare.

I will have to check I might have a CD with a cover of Incantations part 1 by the "other" synth band called Synergy (which is not to be confused with Larry Fast "Synergy" who did Cords, Electronic Realizations, etc.)

As for all these "Moonlight Shadow" covers, I only found out many years after I got "Discovery" that this song was any sort of hit single. Basically, to me, "Moonlight Shadow" is just like any of the other "Discovery" songs.


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Posted: July 13 2005, 10:05

Quote (Anne in the Rain @ July 13 2005, 13:07)
Quote (dkaycom @ July 13 2005, 06:30)
<Tori Amos - Little Lucifer>

that would be "Father Lucifer" and if it's a studio-version, it will not include the TB-theme. Tori included the TB-theme at her gigs until 2001.

She's played the Tubular Bells theme several times during her current tour - not as the bridge in Father Lucifer but as the intro in Yes, Anastasia and Spring Haze: Tori Amos: Tubular Bells / Spring Haze (8-July-2005)

well, the "until 2001" was meant as "Tori included the TB-theme in 'Father Lucifer'".....
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Posted: July 13 2005, 11:40

Quote (EeToN @ July 12 2005, 22:16)
Koto: Moonlight Shadow - I like Koto music very much. However, I don't think MS fits the distinctive italodisco style well enough. It's still good to hear but it should cause no surprises for those who know what Koto is.

I heard Koto's version of Moonlight Shadow years ago (1991?) and it was awful. Not just on the ground that it was an unambitious re-working, but because it got one of the chords wrong (a major chord where there should have been a minor one). But the weirdest thing is that the album it's on is called "Koto plays synthesizer world hits". What makes MS a *synthesizer* world hit? "Koto plays world hits on his synthesizer" would have been more like it.

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Posted: July 13 2005, 11:55

The "Dana Winner" Moonlight Shadow is what I have - I renamed it to Asilon Debison because I thought it was a mis-named file as I couldn't find anyone else listed to cover it on The Covers Project website so I renamed the mp3. Either way - I didn't like it, I thought it was cheesy and ruined the original's upbeat feel.
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Posted: July 13 2005, 14:36

Quote (EeToN @ July 12 2005, 22:16)
If you mean only official releases without the fan covers, my answer to the "how many" questions is 176 tracks - as I collect them. Though 61 of them are Moonlight Shadow-remixes and 56 are TB-mixes. Most of these mixes are fanciless dance remixes and I usually dislike those. If I had to name some that worth mentoning, they would include:

(impressive list snipped)

That's quite an impressive list. Conspicuously missing is the German Moonlight Shadow cover by Juliane Werding, "Nacht voll Schatten." It's quite decent, except that the guitar solo is heavily abridged.

By the way, does anybody have the Moonlight Shadow cover by X-Perience? The link on the tubular.net front page is dead.

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Posted: July 13 2005, 15:30

Randy Bush did a cover version of Foreign Affair also.Gigi D´Agostino has a song called Tarus that some parts comes from Taurus II.

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Quote (c_haese @ July 13 2005, 20:36)
By the way, does anybody have the Moonlight Shadow cover by X-Perience? The link on the tubular.net front page is dead.

-Carsten

Well, Claudia & Co. are actualy reworkin' their website to the launch of their next album...
Try this one .
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<Goblin>

that should be one of the Profondo Rosso-performances, I guess Ugo might be able to tell u more about.

Thanks. :)

Goblin are of course Simonetti's band. They did a whole bunch of records without Simonetti, though. One of them is a rather bad compilation of horror movie themes called "Deepest Red Music", currently out of print, and it features, amongst other things, a rather pedestrian rock/prog version of the TB theme. :)

Regarding the others:

- The one attributed to JMJ & Vangelis, also found as attributed to just one of the two, is a cover piece by two Dutch fans.

- The one attributed to Robert Miles is actually a piece of his called "Fable".

- The one attributed to Philip Glass is a remix done in Italy. :)

- Simonetti did the theme (on his own) on another compilation of horror movie themes, which IMHO is just as bad as Goblin's. :)

On the topic of covers/samples:

- There is a sample of the TB theme in Janet Jackson's song "The Velvet Rope", but I think this is rather well-known. :)

- When Therapy? played "Nowhere" live, they often did it as a medley including TB and "Breaking the Law" before it.


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Posted: July 16 2005, 16:03

I like Goblin. Their soundtrack to Suspiria was brilliant and scary.

Fable by Robert Miles is nice too.
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Posted: July 17 2005, 02:31

Thanks for that everyone, I have a little bit of sorting out to do, looks like I have only scored about half as many tracks as I thought I had.

Speaking of Claudio Simonetti and Goblin. The very first thing I did when I first bought a pc was look up the band Goblin and I found a site dedicated to the films of Dario Argento where I asked the question regarding a riff in the movie 'Deep Red' which is a blatant rip off from a section in TB, (for those who know the movie it starts when the couple break into the school at night). Everyone thought it was similar but no one would agree that it was plagiarism. It was so obvious to me that I started to wonder if Mike had stolen this section from them as I didn't think a band could get away with stealing such a well known piece of music. But we all know that Mike was the first musician to have his music connected with horror films in this way and I believe 'Deep Red' was released a year or two after 'The Exorcist'. So for this reason I was excited to find this version by Goblin. So is this really Goblin? or the same track as the one credited to Simonetti on his own?

It was my little obsession with this particular piece of music that brought me to this site, may have been the first question I ever asked.

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Posted: July 17 2005, 10:08

@ Tracy - As I said above, Goblin were and are Claudio Simonetti's band. He is the keyboardist, main composer and arranger of the band, although all the members compose. The group disbanded, for reasons I don't remember, in 1978, and came back together in 2000 to do yet another Argento soundtrack; during the 22 years in between, Simonetti went solo, he composed many soundtracks (some of them for Argento) and also did various prog/electronic albums, more than one of them containing a version of the main theme from Profondo Rosso (Deep Red). But when the theme first came out in 1975, it was credited to all four members of Goblin (I've got the original soundtrack on CD). So the original composers and performers of the track are Goblin, including Simonetti.
Regarding the theme in itself, I've always stated here that it is heavily influenced by TB and by its use as a horror movie theme, but IMHO it is too different in intention, mood and overall feel to be plagiarism. After all, if I remember correctly, the use of TB theme in The Exorcist was not meant to employ the theme as anything 'scary' - it was the context of the movie which made it scary. :)


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Posted: July 18 2005, 02:21

UGO - The section that I am referring to in the movie "Deep Red" as being plagiarised is in fact only 2mins and 30secs long, I certainly am not comparing the whole thing. They are obviously influenced by TB and it's use in the Exorcist by using music that stirs up emotions and creates a suspensefull mood etc in a horror movie and I love the whole soundtrack, although I do not have the actual soundtrack album, only the movie. The piece I am talking about though is not just similar it is almost indentical, it is less complicated and a little slower maybe and it only uses the background music used in TB but even the chord changes are the same. It runs from the 1hour 23 1/2min mark in the movie until 1hour 26min, when the couple break into the school at night to look for the drawing until just before the lady is killed. This piece is the same piece that starts at the 17min 9sec mark of side 1 of TB and runs right into the beginning of the announcement of the instruments where a lot more is added to it. If you have the soundtrack of Deep Red and not the movie you may not be able to find this specific piece, but this 2 minutes of music is a definite plagiarism. I might have to purchase the soundtrack just to see if it is even on there.

Tracy.


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Posted: July 18 2005, 02:28

The Rick Wakeman one that Tracy and Ugo mentioned is false. The track is called Tubular Balls and has nothing to do with Mike. It is on the Cirque Surreal album though, Ugo.

Another one I've remembered is The Shadows' version of Moonlight Shadow. I believe they did it because Mike covered Wonderful Land. I've only heard it once, but I think it was pretty good.


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