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Posted: Oct. 11 2005, 18:33

Dear Mike

This is the voice of your conscience...

DO A TOUR SOON!

Thanks


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Posted: Oct. 11 2005, 23:16

Mike,

Get on tour if you feel confortable to do it, as well as thinking about something that won't be a problem later on with your finances.


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Posted: Oct. 11 2005, 23:28

Who are you Tati, his mother?

Mike, please do a tour with plenty of notice so I can save the money (or mortgage the house if I have to). Maybe you could come to Australia this time, it's been over 20 years since you toured here. I could try and get a petition if it would help. PLEASE!!!!

But not just a Light and Shade tour, there has to be some old stuff in there, thanks heaps, your humble Aussie servant,

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Posted: Oct. 11 2005, 23:56

Quote (TubularBelle @ Oct. 12 2005, 00:28)
Who are you Tati, his mother?


Nope,but I don't wanna see Mike upset and depressed again like in the past.That can lead Mike to quit music...

He's struggled a lot to achieve his current state of mind and what I do notice on the new interviews is the fact he feels much more confortable on his skin,happy and spiritually full of power. That does really mean a lot to a person with a personal bio like he has got.


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Posted: Oct. 12 2005, 08:08

For any artist to see thousands of his/her fans turn out to hear and appreciate and laud their music must have a positive and fulfilling effect on that artist... but actually making the decision to do so is another aspect completely.

I would think that apart from the financial concerns, the only soul destroying and worrying aspect for anyone in a performing art is confidence - and their own perceptions and "what ifs" - what if no-one will want to see them, what if I fail... surely that won't happen if Mike ever toured... there are far too many people who want to show their support and admiration for him I'm sure!


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Posted: Oct. 12 2005, 16:01

Quote (Tati The Sentinel @ Oct. 11 2005, 23:56)
Quote (TubularBelle @ Oct. 12 2005, 00:28)
Who are you Tati, his mother?


Nope,but I don't wanna see Mike upset and depressed again like in the past.That can lead Mike to quit music...


I have to say Tati, that I agree with you entirely.

I can testify that it is a joy and privilege to watch Mike play live. He rises magnificently to the occasion; wrapping himself around the guitar in total commitment. You'd be a fool not to want to see it.

However, if Mike isn't ready, he shouldn't be pressured into investing time and energy into something that is not right for him.

I have to admit, that I don't get the impression that Mike feels strong at the moment. In fact I think he's unhappy and doesn't know what to do about it.

His semi-retirement didn't work out, MVR hasn't been the success he'd hoped for, Warners didn't release the last album of their contract and other more personal troubles have appeared in the press.

I don't think comments like those he's made recently are thos of someone at the top of their game.

No, I think the thing to do right now is wish Mike all the best and hope he finds what he needs.

One ray of hope is that L + S is Mike's best album in years, Let's hope it's the start of a trend.


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Posted: Oct. 13 2005, 01:02

Yeh but he has already said that he will tour, he wouldn't do it if he didn't want to. Apart from all the financial and insecurity concerns, doesn't he enjoy touring? I thought it would be a very special time for him. Sorry Tati, that was a joke, I didn't intend for it to sound as disrespectfull as it did.

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Posted: Oct. 13 2005, 05:42

The last time I saw Mike live (outside of a DVD) was at the NEC here in Birmingham, and I've waited years for him to come here again. But if he were to tour now, I wouldn't go, due to the fact that he would probably play all that crap from the new album. I think I've wasted enough money on Mike Oldfield this year.
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Posted: Oct. 13 2005, 08:17

Mike, it would be great if you did tour again although I read in an interview with you that you dont work as much as you used to, so if you cant tour, keep being mike on all your albums, every albums a winner!



jonny


ps, if you do tour, PLEASE add ireland in on it!


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Posted: Oct. 13 2005, 08:41

Quote (TanGram @ Oct. 13 2005, 05:42)
The last time I saw Mike live (outside of a DVD) was at the NEC here in Birmingham

Is that a vendor of NEC (Nippon Electronics Corp of Japan) electronics?

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Posted: Oct. 13 2005, 14:32

Quote (hiawatha @ Oct. 13 2005, 08:41)
Quote (TanGram @ Oct. 13 2005, 05:42)
The last time I saw Mike live (outside of a DVD) was at the NEC here in Birmingham

Is that a vendor of NEC (Nippon Electronics Corp of Japan) electronics?

:D NEC stands for National Exhibition Centre.


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Posted: Oct. 13 2005, 17:52

Mike, I think along with many others believe it's time you raised your profile with the younger members of the population. It seems when ever I mention the name of Mike Oldfield , the exorcist or tubular bells seems to spring to mind. The younger population should be made aware of your genious as both a musician & composer.
Perhaps a charity concert along with other musicians of your ilk could perform eg.Jon Anderson etc.
A concert such as this would not only be of benefit for the charity in question but would give us oldfield fanatics something to be proud of to shout at the younger generation. :D
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Posted: Oct. 13 2005, 21:50

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Mike, I think along with many others believe it's time you raised your profile with the younger members of the population. The younger population should be made aware of your genious as both a musician & composer.

Ooh yes but Ommadawn34, this seems to be the problem at the moment, for those who see there is a problem at the moment, in that is exactly what he is trying to do and perhaps not quite succeeding at it and only managing to alienate the older faithfull fans. I am not young, I'm 45, but from raising 3 sons I have learnt to love and appreciate not the commercial crap that is aimed at the youth of today but some of the excellent rock and alternative music that has been around in the last 15 years. And I have tried to get the Australian alternative radio station JJJ to play Mike as he is sworn off their list along with artists such as Michael Jackson and Britney and the like. They had a 'moon' theme once and they played 'Moonlight Shadow' and then the announcer said, "I bet that's the first time you have ever heard Mike Oldfield on JJJ and it will be the last too". I sent them emails desperately trying to explain that Moonlight Shadow is not really indicitave of Mikes style and that he was much more hip and rock orientated than that. But now I personally would not know what to advice Mike to do if I was ever given the opportunity as I love both the old stuff and the new stuff, but the fact is, that Mike is 52 years old now, he cannot think like a 20 year old, nor can he compete with some of the fantastic young artists that are creating the music that they want to hear. Certainly, after waiting over 30 years to see Mike in concert, and faithfully promising myself after the last tour that I would follow him to the end of the Earth if I have to, to see him perform LIVE, and I honestly swear I was prepared to take a mortgage on my house, I now have reservations, because a concert with the complete L&S and maybe just a few snippets of TB or Moonlight Shadow would be a disappointment for me. So I guess I'll have to wait and see how it is advertised, I got the impression from the interview that it will be a L&S tour.

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Posted: Oct. 14 2005, 05:40

Heya! I'm 17, and I know first hand that, even in my music tech class, the people in that class only know him for "the exorcist theme tune" or "tubular thingy", and when they listen to his stuff, i feel they are prejudiced against it because they are quite closed minded about it. If Mike were to try to attract a younger audience, it may be more successful than you'd think because lots of people know of him, but not for musical genius he is.

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Posted: Oct. 14 2005, 11:38

After the reaction to L+S i hardly think the prospect of a tour appeals to Mike right now!!!!.
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Posted: Oct. 14 2005, 13:53

No I don't suppose it does although weirdly I reckon some of the tracks off L+S would be much better live, that is if they were given some sort of 'live' re-arrengement. Though to be honest I can't see that happening at all.

Ian Too - question- do you know if Warners dropped Mike or was it the other way around?
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Ian Too - question- do you know if Warners dropped Mike or was it the other way around?

I have no idea Toby. All I know is that Mike released two albums of a three album deal with Warner Spain.

I imagine that Warners either refused or wouldn't give Mike a definite release date for Light or perhaps, some combination of tracks from Light and Shade. Mike would then have asked to be released from his contract and Warners agreed.

This is speculation, you understand. I have no idea what Mike's contract actually stipulates.

I can't say I have any sympathy for people who want Mike to take over the world; I'd be quite happy ordering Mike's latest album from Artist Direct, at least they wouldn't interfere and he'd probably find a community of honest musicians.

In my opinion, Tubular Bells became popular because people recognised the honesty in it. That it was uncontrived, emotional music, which was lent an air of sophistication by some jazz chords and motifs Mike had picked up in his wanderings. This allowed him to be picked up by people like John Peel and Melvyn Bragg, who got the album listened to and made it popoular.

Hergest Ridge revealed Mike for who he really was: an honest man who feels his music, not a sophisticate at all. Music boiled out of him in a way he just didn't understand and all he could do is shape it into a presentable form with the help of people like Tom Newman. Mike's no idiot, but perhaps savant is closer to the truth than genius.

The point of all this is that Mike always wanted to be liked, but not by the people he finds attracted to his music. He wants to be belle of the ball and focus of adulation, not an awkward outsider, liked by awkward outsiders. This is why he has repeatedly compromised his music; adopting new formats and then styles to try and fit in.

The trouble is that you can't lead your muse, not if you don't understand it and people who force themselves on people are always rejected. Mike - who was always a retiring person - has now sealed himself away such that he is morribund and his muse is starving.

I think getting involved with charity would do Mike some good; not as a publicity stunt, but as a way of getting involved with people (NOT HIS FANS!) and seeing more of what life is really like. There must be some cause which Mike feels sympathy for and for whom he can act genuinely, not as a rock star, but as a person. That commitment will give his life structure and direction, and help Mike find true self respect. It will also feed his muse.

Oh a tour would be nice, but it would only last a few weeks, tire Mike out and leave him in the same predicament.

I think Mike is a prime example of the fact that, unless you're exceptionally wise, getting what you want isn't good for you.


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Posted: Oct. 15 2005, 11:30

Some astute observations there Ian. I have always thought that Mike probably regards a fair amount of his fan base as quite nerdy, in fact I don't know if you remember the Dark Star information telephone line that used to run for much of the 90's? I remember Mike personally leaving a message on it a week before the TB3 premier saying he didn't want 'to many anoraks' there. Namely TB3 was his attempt at being cool and he wanted the fans to get cool with it, to which I remember thinking 'I think you'll probably find I'm pretty cool already thanks Mike   ;)

I'm not sure about the charity thing. Mike did run his Tonic charity in the early 90's and there was an interview with Mike's assistant Jeremy Parker done by David Porter (circa 1991) where Jeremy said Mike does a heck of a lot for charity including things even Jeremy didn't know about. It wouldn't surprise me if Mike still does a lot of that sort of thing but obviously doesn't make it public.

I know what you're getting at there though. Mike does seem astonishingly removed from reality sometimes both in some in some of the comments he makes and with the direction of the music he now writes. Some of the comments he's made over the last few years beggar belief really.

I remember an interview with him for TB2 (Scotland on Sunday if I remember rightly, it may be in the articles section) where the journalist stated that Mike was a really peculiar person to meet because his personality seemed to go in and out of focus and he certainly had no real sense of himself as a person. I remember thinking that was really interesting observation because as an artist his out put doesn't seem to  have any real sense of itself. Its a very pedestrian stab at a lot of different things be it video games or dance music. He's unquestionably a hugely talented man but he's spread his talent thinly over to wide an area for to much of his career.

On the original topic. I'd love to see Mike tour, if he chose small venues for a really intimate atmosphere it would be amazing but I really can't see that happening. I think he'd much rather play bigger places that he would have a real problem filling certainly here in the UK. Anyway I'll believe it when I see because we've been here before over the last 3 years.
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Posted: Oct. 15 2005, 16:07

Quote (Ian Too @ Oct. 15 2005, 10:25)
The point of all this is that Mike always wanted to be liked, but not by the people he finds attracted to his music. He wants to be belle of the ball and focus of adulation, not an awkward outsider, liked by awkward outsiders. This is why he has repeatedly compromised his music; adopting new formats and then styles to try and fit in.


I think that using new formats in Mike's case isn't to be popular outside his fanbase at all,it's a way not to be dated on his own past, especially if your past is consider ab fab and classic. He's not the type of artist that is going to act like Yes nowadays,working on the very same stuff they did in the 70's,the very ol' boring thing.

I've never considered Mike's music as hugely popular like Pink Floyd,Yes,Genesis,all those prog artists from the 70's. It has got something that most people can't get into,I really don't know how to describe it in words. As well as his music,his persona is above average,and to understand his music,even the simple ones,are not for most people,IMHO.

When he says he don't listen at all to current music, I don't believe it, since I've read some interviews that he does said he was taking a look on what's on the music scene(eg, a interview that was on MO.com about Maestro and he said he was listening to BBC Radio 1 when it's playing dance music and he liked the tunes).He listens to it, get some ideas he finds interesting and create tunes based on that in a mikeoldfieldian way.That's it.

I personally feel that in the last few years, he had lots of moments to be Michael Gordon Oldfield and has left Mike Oldfield in hibernaculum mode on...living the life like he always wanted to live,as a normal person like each one of us here.But he's a normal person,but what he does for a living is something everybody knows about it in the world !

About the Warner subject,maybe that DVD-A of TB 2003 was considered his third album to be released under that contract.Dunno what really happened and if the real reasons for Mike leaving Warner and going to Mercury will be revealed to the public.

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Posted: Oct. 15 2005, 18:45

But isn't Mike's desire to sound up to date using the latest technology and  being influenced by the latest sounds (ie dance music) pretty much entirely linked to him wanting to be accepted and wanting to be popular? They're not mutually exclusive desires by any means.

I don't really get this idea of Mike wanting to live the life of a normal person Tati or what relevance it has to anything. I mean he's never exactly been Michael Jackson has he? He hasn't toured since 1999, he rarely gives interviews (certainly here in the UK) and I bet he rarely gets recognised in his local supermarket.

Again with Mike and dance music we have this hugely pedestrian take on it. The stuff in Shade sounds like Mike still has his head stuck in a 1996 Ibiza nightclub. Its a shame Mike can't take his dance music influence from else where, somewhere rich in energy and melodic content. Again though the irony of all this is that Mike seems gloriously out of touch on what he thinks is in vogue and modern sounding. Eletronica and dance music is hugely out of fashion at the moment, even the big boys of dance music are finding it hard to stay critically relelvant. And what type of music is in fashion at the moment, possibly for the first time since 1977? Step forward progressive rock. But of course Mike thinks 70's music is old fashioned just he thinks the yobs in the street would sooner look up to Johnny Rotton as a role model rather than himself (one of the most ludicrous comments he's ever made)

But I reckon its digital music from Mike from here on in so all of us old timers better get used to it or find something else. Technology destroys music? Hmm I certainly think it wholly consumed Mike Oldfield.
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