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Topic: Anyone notice TB1 Finale is alot like Bolero?< Next Oldest | Next Newest >
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Posted: Feb. 03 2007, 14:44

Think about it, maurice Ravel's Bolero is a repeating tune that builds up to a climax by using the same tune but change instruments as it builds up, just like Finale. The only difference is Finale dims down at the end.
just noticing.
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Posted: Feb. 03 2007, 19:19

Yes, of course Mike did conceive Finale as a huge build-up of instruments on a very simple tune, which culminates on the tubular bells. But I doubt whether there was any influence from Ravel's Bolero. The two main differences between the pieces are: 1) Bolero is in 3/4 time, Finale is in 4/4 [obviously!:p]; 2) Ravel does not repeat the same melody by changing the instruments playing it, as Finale does. Ravel adds a new instrument to each repetition, and that instrument plays the melody until the end of the piece; Mike O., on the other hand, changes the lead instrument at each repetition, but the new instrument isn't added to the whole. OK, the glockenspiel is still heard under the bass guitar, but the bass guitar itself doesn't play a lead part anymore after it has played the melody, so it's not 'added' to the instrumentation as a lead instrument.
Another feature of Bolero is that Ravel, as far as I know, wanted to create a chaotic/cacophonic effect at the end of it: if you listen to it carefully, you hear that in the conclusion the melody degenerates into something almost atonal. Mike O.'s melody never degenerates, it stays firm up to the conclusion of the huge build-up. So, to sum it up,  I think that Mike O. had a very clear picture in his mind of what he wanted to obtain, but I have serious doubts that Ravel's Bolero was part of that picture. :)


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Posted: Feb. 04 2007, 09:02

they are indeed similar in many ways, though other differences not yet mentioned include that Bolero undergoes many key chances and there is constant crescendo all the way to the end.
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