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Rileman Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: Jan. 2004 Posted: June 03 2004, 04:13 In the very beginning of Amarok, there's a down-bending sound. I've heard this is the sound of a guitar tuner. Is this right? And exactly after that, the two first bits of the guitar fastriff sounds dry and muted. How to make this sound? -------------- It's not easy going where no-one goes, and no-one knows... Back to top

Satyagraha Group: Musicians Posts: 103 Joined: June 2003 Posted: June 03 2004, 06:15 No guitar-tuner at all. Oldfield just depresses the vibrato arm on his PRS guitar. A guitar tuner doesn't tune the guitar, you know (though I believe such an apparatus has been experimented upon), it simply measures the pitch of a string and tells you whether  it's flat or sharp. You can make it play the right pitch, but it sounds nothing like this, rather like a synthesizer beep. There are various beeps in Amarok that might have been produced by the guitar tuner, though. And yes, the sound of the first riff is rather odd. The normal way of muting is by damping the strings using the palm of your picking hand at the bridge, but that should produce a duller sound than this. He might have used felt or some similar fabric to dampen the strings by the bridge, like on some harpsichords. -------------- Byrði betri berrat maðr brautu at en sé mannvit mikit Back to top

Rileman Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: Jan. 2004 Posted: June 03 2004, 07:33 Ok... Thanks for the answer. When I try to play the muted fast riff, I wind a soft sock around the strings next to the guitar saddle.     But it's only a experiment to get that muted sound   -------------- It's not easy going where no-one goes, and no-one knows... Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: June 03 2004, 09:03 I believe the beginning is a highly strung guitar - so, the very light octave strings from a 12 string set. Play them palm-muted and scraping the nails of the picking hand over them (rather than just plucking) and you get something very close to that sound. Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: June 03 2004, 09:30 So...where's the guitar tuner on Amarok? -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: June 03 2004, 10:02 There are a few points where there's a beeping that spells SOS in Morse (like on Fast Waltz). That could be the beeping of the guitar tuner. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: June 03 2004, 12:53 We already covered that here! I think it's at 15:10. Back to top

Satyagraha Group: Musicians Posts: 103 Joined: June 2003 Posted: June 03 2004, 14:17 Speaking of beginnings, anybody's got any authority on what words Oldfields speaks into the vocoder at the beginning? I think the vowel sounds suggests "one, two, three, four", but there are no consonant sounds. -------------- Byrði betri berrat maðr brautu at en sé mannvit mikit Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: June 03 2004, 15:43 Quote (Satyagraha @ June 03 2004, 20:17) Speaking of beginnings, anybody's got any authority on what words Oldfields speaks into the vocoder at the beginning? I think the vowel sounds suggests "one, two, three, four", but there are no consonant sounds. I always heard those as 'wa ki ki ka' or 'wa ti ti ka'. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

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