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afghan Group: Members Posts: 145 Joined: July 2004 Posted: April 24 2005, 04:01 A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I NEED ANSWERED TO SETTLE A SMALL WAGER. DID MIKE EVER PLAY A GIG UNDER THE EIFEL TOWER IN PARIS AND IF SO WHEN AND WHO WERE MIKES BIGGEST INFLUENCES WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER. -------------- may you never run aground or fall into the deep deep sound Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: April 24 2005, 11:04 No, it was Jean Michel Jarre who played under the Eiffel Tower (he's not the only one, but I'll bet he's the one being thought of here) - Mike never has. Some big influences on Mike when he was younger were John Renbourne, Bert Jansch, Julian Bream, The Shadows and Bert Weedon, then later, composers like Sibelius and Terry Riley. He also mentioned Keith Tippett's jazz orchestra Centipede as being an influence on Tubular Bells. Back to top

afghan Group: Members Posts: 145 Joined: July 2004 Posted: April 24 2005, 13:32 Thankyou, thats just what i thought ,the person that was mentioned as one of mikes influences was vangelis but to be honest in any mike interviews i have heard i have never heard him talk about vangelis. -------------- may you never run aground or fall into the deep deep sound Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: April 24 2005, 14:05 There are no doubt many influences I've not mentioned there, but Vangelis is certainly not one! He didn't release his first solo record until 1974 (after a couple of film scores), so I see it as rather unlikely that he influenced Mike at that stage. Mike may have listened to Vangelis's work later, but I'm not sure there's evidence of any influence particularly (perhaps people more familiar with his work than I am will be able to say more about that, though). Apparently, Santa Maria from The Millennium Bell is similar to some of Vangelis's music for 1492: Conquest of Paradise. That, if it's not a coincidence, would obviously be a recent influence rather than an early one, though. Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: April 24 2005, 15:29 In a 1989 interview with Steven Wells for the NME Mike said he thought both Jean-Michel Jarre and Vangelis were both crap, so there's your answer. However move forward a few years to the recording of TSODE and Mike discussed with Arthur C Clarke his favorite music. Now Arthur C Clarke is a huge Vangelis and Jarre fan and does TSODE sound like either of those two artists? It certainly sounds like Vangelis in parts, in particular that piano tune over the pulsing backing beat in Lament for Atlantis sounds like somthing Vangelis might churn out. Some fans think Magellan sounds like somthing Jarre might do but not to my ears, Jarre rarely if ever uses 'ordinary' instrument sounds, piano, bagpipe etc. I'll tell you one definate influence on TSODE - Michael Cretu's Enigma.   Back to top

Ratty Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: Jan. 2005 Posted: April 24 2005, 16:08 Quote (TOBY @ April 24 2005, 20:29) In a 1989 interview with Steven Wells for the NME Mike said he thought both Jean-Michel Jarre and Vangelis were both crapI'll tell you one definate influence on TSODE - Michael Cretu's Enigma.   Toby, chuffed to bits you posted this. I also recalled this interview but didnt post coz i couldnt remember the mag or year..well done my son!!! I also believe that Mike took influences from Cretus The Return To Innocence for The Chamber and Hibernaculum. Ive tried and tried to get in to Jarre(not literally!!!! but hes no Mike is he. On the subjects of bets, all tips for the 3.45 at Kempton will be greatly appreciated!!! -------------- Far away across the field The tolling of the iron bell Calls the faithful to their knees To hear the softly spoken magic spells Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: April 24 2005, 19:12 Quote (Korgscrew @ April 24 2005, 14:05) Apparently, Santa Maria from The Millennium Bell is similar to some of Vangelis's music for 1492: Conquest of Paradise. That, if it's not a coincidence, would obviously be a recent influence rather than an early one, though. Some of the melody for "Santa Maria" reminds me of "Adeste Fideles", in fact. I guess he was just searching for generic Christian music to be inspired by (eh), and as for Vangelis, "The Inner Child" instantly reminded me of the main theme for "1942" when I heard it for the first time. I also do remember reading about Mike saying Jarre was crap, which I thought was absolutely laughable. His argument was that "Tubular Bells II" was more humane than everything Jarre did. My personal opinion is that even Kraftwerk is more humane than "Tubular Bells II", but without going there, I can just say that Mike Oldfield, of all people, dismissing one of the biggest pioneers of electronic music as "crap" is a pretty... silly thing to say. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Ratty Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: Jan. 2005 Posted: April 24 2005, 19:31 There is only one thing i am envious of Jarre for...Charlotte Rampling!!!       -------------- Far away across the field The tolling of the iron bell Calls the faithful to their knees To hear the softly spoken magic spells Back to top

EeToN Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: Sep. 2001 Posted: April 24 2005, 20:53 Quote (Ratty @ April 25 2005, 01:31) There is only one thing i am envious of Jarre for...Charlotte Rampling!!!       (Quite offtopic but AFAIK they divorced in 2002.) -------------- If I were music, I would be Enigmatism. Back to top

Chicular Group: Members Posts: 240 Joined: Sep. 2004 Posted: April 25 2005, 09:29 I can think of some pretty silly things you've said Sir Mustapha!  I guess it's ok for you to dis Mike though eh Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: April 25 2005, 18:10 Ratty. You don't happen to have a copy of that interview do you? I'd love to read it again, it was probably the best article/interview with Mike I've ever read, it was really funny. I'm sure some newer fans would be shocked to find out just how bonkers Mike can be. Back to top

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