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Posted: Sep. 11 2003, 07:40

Copy Protection is the biggest single thing yet to promote getting music, programs and movies from moster download sites like Ka**a and Direc* Conne** not to mention the many IRC chat rooms. My wife got one of the Lord of the Rings soundtracks and tryed to play it on the PC (which we use as our whole sound system) only to be met by a flashy link to the LOTR website! There was no way it was going to play the music. I was SOOO angry as she was VERY dissapointed. But within half an hour I had it cracked and ripped to the Hard Drive.
And Its not just music. I have an official copy of Windows XP and, for my trouble, I have to go though the excrutiating process of Activating it with Microsoft eveytime I format my HD or upgrade more than one piece of hardware! My friend, however, uses a hacked version of XP and NEVER EVER has to activate it no matter what he does. This list could go on but it seems to me that copy protection dose only one thing - screws the legitimate user while having no efect whatsoever on those who use cracked copies. Everyone but the companies doing this knows that Hackers swarm like hungry bees arround anything that looks like a challange, and the greater the Copy Protection, the bigger and happier the swarm is as they gleefully try to be the first to crack the new and uncrackable. It's a game to them.
I have to admit, I download a lot from the internet (mostly favorite tv shows) and i have next to no problem with this. For years before the internet was invented people taped stuff  off the TV -- who has a problem with that? Nobody. My brother used to tape music vids from MTV --who has a problem with that? No one. But aren't these things still illegal copies that come under the exact same law that is used to vilify the people who download stuff from the net?
So basically, if I use cable tv I can tape all my favorite shows and musial events with moral impunity. But if I use my cable modem to do the same damn thing, then i'm a "pirate" and should rot in jail.
"But you have to pay for cable!"
I pay for and internet connection.
Back when my mother was my age the music industy complained that illegal pirate radio would put them out of business. It did not. Instead the music industy ended up making a boatload of money from the radio.
Then, when I was a boy, the music industry complained about cassete recorders were being used to tape music from the raidio and tv and this would put them out of business. It did not. Insetad they made it so that they get a slice of the proffit of every piece of blank media wheather it's used to copy music or not. So they made, and are still making ---A boatload of money.
One thing is for sure. They will never stop internet downloading of any digital media. For every Napster they destroy 10 P2P sites pop up in it's place.
I don't know how they are going to cope with this in the future, but I for one wouldn't mind if they put my monthly internet fee up and just said you can download anything you want. And they would STILL make their precious boatload of money!
Any thoughts?
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Posted: Sep. 11 2003, 13:17

Quote (GunHead @ Sep. 11 2003, 12:40)
I don't know how they are going to cope with this in the future, but I for one wouldn't mind if they put my monthly internet fee up and just said you can download anything you want. And they would STILL make their precious boatload of money!

Well, interesting you should say this.

Let's look for a minute at two of the largest companies involved in the record industry, AOL Time Warner and Sony.

Now, to take AOL Time Warner first, they're a company who, amongst their many interests, is the world's largest internet service provider. Even more than that, in promoting AOL Broadband services in some places they tell customers that one advantage is...that they can download music. Because really, AOL Time Warner want people to share music and other large files on the internet, because it means people make more use of their internet services and therefore more money finds its way into the company bank account.
I think that they could actually do quite well out of offering music for download at reasonable prices as part of their internet services...but that would mean them being competitive, so no charging £20 for an album. Funny that the CDs don't seem to cost them that much when they have AOL software on them...

Now, Sony. I saw an advertisement for a Sony laptop in the paper a few weeks ago. The selling point was that it would let you copy CDs. I don't really know what CDs they think people are going to copy with it - if it was an ad in a music recording magazine I might be able to accept that it's aimed at musicians who want to make copies of their own work, but this was a national newspaper, the readers of which are most likely to only have one type of CD to copy, and that's commercial music CDs.

They're trying to have it both ways. AOL Time Warner want you to use AOL broadband so you can download music, but they don't want you to download their music from the internet. Sony want you to buy their laptops so you can copy CDs, but don't want you to copy their CDs.
They really need to think it through more. How about software with a Sony computer that actually encourages people to download music and make compilation CDs, for a small fee? How about an AOL Broadband deal which offers the very latest music for download, in exchange for a monthly membership charge?

One company which seems to be trying to show the way is Apple, whose iTunes music store had 1,000,000 downloads in the first week of opening (that is, from a user base of 2,000,000 iTunes 4 users). I think this shows that people are willing to pay for legal, downloadable music, as long as the price is kept reasonable. Have the record companies not realised yet that maybe people want to have music on their computers, that they want to download it to their mp3 players, and so maybe it would be a good idea if they offered a product to fit what at the moment is a bit of a hole in the market. When audio cassettes came out, they could have tried to stop people copying LPs to them (in fact, I  think they did try...), but they did far better in the long run by actually selling albums on tape, thereby removing one reason why someone would want to copy the album (it didn't stop people who were making copies because they didn't want to pay for the album, of course, but it did mean they at least made some money where they could have made none had they not offered a product to fit the niche).

'Copy protecting' albums in the way they're trying is completely the opposite of that kind of strategy - they're just trying to restrict the way people listen to music instead of looking for ways to profit from the new trends in music listening.
There are always going to be people who don't pay for music and always have been - sure, I know people who have fair collections of copied music on CDR, minidisc or as mp3s, but I also used to know people who had similar collections of copied music on cassette. What the record companies need to do is give people an incentive to obtain their music legally. They seem to be going the wrong way, though - instead of offering great products at competitive prices, they offer mediochre to bad products at inflated prices and just try and stamp out (or buy out) all the competition so there's no choice but to buy what they're offering.

There's only so much the public will put up with, though...
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Posted: Jan. 27 2004, 17:54

when we used to tape vinyl from our friends, or record of radio, if we liked it enough we bought it.
the same is true of cd's and mp3's.
you are also buying the artwork, the sleve notes, supporting your favourites.
if you discovered an artiste from a mate, "here, borrow this" you'd follow them later.

so - downloads and the big companies should support each other. It makes business sense.

a very short horizon is the big companies problem


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