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yaklulu Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: Nov. 2002 Posted: Nov. 07 2002, 16:16 I did this amazing course in London years ago.  Why can't I find any details ANYWHERE on the web. Does anybody want to share their experiences of Exegesis, or point me to somewhere that I can research what really happened during my "enlightenment"? Thanks Yak Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: Nov. 11 2002, 17:58 Did you have similar effects like Mike after doing the therapy? Describe your feelings about it! -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

yaklulu Unregistered Posted: Nov. 12 2002, 09:29 Well I don't really know what Mikes' experience was of the whole Exegesis thing so I can't really answer on his behalf.  Everyone that I spoke to had very different views on the whole experience gained .   What was interesting for me, was to recently read about Mikes' nude photo shoot.  One of the things that we were encouraged to do at one point in the Exegesis seminar, was to remove our clothes....imagine the effect this has on your awareness of your body image and your self confidence. As they said, if you can stand naked in front of  fifty strangers in a hotel room, you won't feel self conscious again in front of one person in your bedroom. (or photoshoot). Although at the age of 17 I didn't really get the deeper meaning of many of the things we did over those weekends, I feel I have been profoundly effected (in a good way) by the whole experience.  Including doding a meditation which led to the most spiritual experience of life and positive proof that there is more to our existence than the world we see around us. Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: Nov. 12 2002, 13:28 That's very interesting. How did you get into this,what made you doing that? About Exegesis,Mike said on the Sunday Times article,that Exegesis taught him ''that you create your own reality,and you can change your reality''. IMHO,I think that Mike has become a better person after doing that,for sure. -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

yaklulu Unregistered Posted: Nov. 12 2002, 16:23 I was introduced to it by the parents of a friend of mine, and I did it because they highly recomended it..I think they knew Sally Oldfield through a freind of a friend. It is SO true what Mike said, you really do create the world that you live in and you can change it. Exegesis taught me to be 100% responsible for my reality. (Doesn't this tie in with a very Buddhist view of life!!!?) Once you assume full responsibility for your actions and situations then you are no longer a victim of fate/luck call it what you will...you don't blame anyone for things that happen. I know now that there are many big exceptions to this theory, and I knew it THEN as well.....it is all about taking the leap of faith. We we told so much during those weekends, and they explained that we would forget most of it. BUT the information they gave us would reside somewhere deep in your mind and when you needed it it would emerge. Back to top

yaklulu Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: Nov. 2002 Posted: Nov. 12 2002, 16:39 Oh by the way, you can find a copy of Incantations at www.cdnow.com AND, just think about the title Exposed....it ties it with the whole Exegesis thing. Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: Nov. 12 2002, 17:22 I do recommend you to read here on Tubular.net the Heaven and Earth interview,where Mike talks about his belifs,spiritual life and stuff like that. Yes,I have got Incantations,it's one of my fav albums,and as far as I know,you can see the difference in some tunes,some are pre-Exegesis and others are post-Exegesis. The Exposed album...yep,Mike was really EXPOSED on that tour! I do agree also with that,you're responsible for your reality. One thing that Mike means more just one of my fav artists is the fact that he's always trying to find out who he really is,to understand himself better and to be a better human being. I personally think that he did a fab job when he created TONIC to help people to do psychotherapy,it's a pity it doesn't exist anymore.I did some psychotherapy for 7 years,it helped me a lot to face off my own problems regarding to my life,and I'm sure that all that experience is something I'll never forget. Also regarding Exegesis,I would like to know about the public reaction about the therapy itself.I was curious to know more about it,and like you said,there are no info about that on the net! Other question I have is,what kind of exercises they teached the people who went into the course? -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: Nov. 12 2002, 18:47 I'm quite interested in Exegesis as well and I have read various things about it, although I must confess I've never done the course myself so I may be wrong about a few things. I to have done a bit of psychotherapy and I'm very interested in the various methods and beliefs regarding self improvement and fullfilment. The thing is with all these therapy's is that if they work for you and you take what is good for you out of them then obviously for you thats a good thing. The problem is is that everybody's different and everybody's emtional traumas happen for very, very individual reasons. One of the criticisisms of Exegesis ( and there were a few) was that it dealt with peoples emotional problems in very broad terms, to put it mildly. This idea of the individual being wholey responsible for his or her internal personal mind games, which Exegesis claimed, is more than just a little generalising. There is of course an element of truth in this but I simply don't agree that an individual should made to feel completely responsible for how they deal with any given negative thought. For example if you were abused as a child then obviously thats not your fault and how you deal with that now as an adult is more than just trivial mind games. This is the side of Exegesis I don't agree with and it has been criticised within psychotherapy circles for this reason. However other areas of the therapy, like the confronational side from what I've read, do sound interesting. Back to top

Phil Moakes Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Jan. 09 2005, 20:40 OK - this is really old now but... I mentioned elsewhere that I used to work for one of MO's ex engineers. Well he had his job at Througham during the Exegesis period and it seems that many of Oldfield's staff had a go at it. What it meant for me was that my boss had a permanent issue over responsibility and, at its rawest, cause and effect. Although the rest of us tried to keep a sense of humour, it did actually rub off on the way we worked - for the positive. And, on the average day, we all got it balanced (him & us). We had a few other personal issues that sent us in different directions eventually, but that period was a fascinating learning experience that does have some very useful real world applications. It also has some nonesense (photographs seemed to get a raw deal as I remember) and my bid to be responsible for ensuring that we delivered product by Christmas to make sure we all got paid, ended up with me owning a knackered car (its one of many long stories) Back to top

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