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pyrie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: July 2003 Posted: Oct. 29 2003, 10:05 I've not seen this mentioned before - when I play TB - 2003 on my CD player at home and in the car... during the Master of Ceremonies section in about 1/2 way through there seems to be an echo of (I think) the work Gockenspiel - about midway through a track just in the background... is this a funny with the copy protection? Apologies All round if this is an old one.. Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: Oct. 29 2003, 12:26 Look under a similar discussion in the TB2003 section of this forum. It's the 'Mandolin' introduction you're thinking of and yes it is said twice, for what reason we can't even begin to imagine,  and yes it's annoying. It's certainly deliberate and not a fault of the recording. Back to top

HearItAll Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: Mar. 2002 Posted: Nov. 25 2003, 12:20 I noticed that too.  I did post a message some time ago regarding this and I was told that John Cleese liked when he said Mandolin so much, that he repeated it.  How true this is, I don't know, but I do agree that it is a tad annoying. Back to top

YODA Unregistered Posted: Dec. 09 2003, 16:52 Maybe its a side effect of copy protection where you get 'I think' throughout the album    ARRRRRG !!!!! Back to top

Guimauve2 Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: April 2004 Posted: April 15 2004, 21:42 Quote (HearItAll @ Nov. 25 2003, 12:20) I noticed that too.  I did post a message some time ago regarding this and I was told that John Cleese liked when he said Mandolin so much, that he repeated it.  How true this is, I don't know, but I do agree that it is a tad annoying. This can't be true, for one reason.  It is the same "mandolin" you hear in TB2003.  I mean, it's just copy-pasted.  MO just took the "mandolin" think, copied it, make it sound less lounder, then pasted it later in the "song".  So, JC just said it once, and it is the part that is repeated. Back to top

SCprogfan Unregistered Posted: April 20 2004, 10:07 Yes, I don't know why people can't seem to accept that it does indeed sound like the very same "Mandolin" audio file from before simply dropped onto the recording at that later spot.  Funny how it is insisted that it was intentional, when on other album threads, particularly regarding a glitch at the end of The Wind Chimes, those are always stated as being accidental.   Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: April 20 2004, 11:46 Well, I don't know about the sound on The Wind Chimes, it could well have been left there intentionally too. Certainly with the repeat of Mandolin, I'd say it's either intentional or Mike and Ben Darlow have lost their hearing and their eyesight. If this many fans, listening to the 16 bit CD on consumer level equipment can hear it, why would it be that Mike, listening to the 24 bit master on £30,000 loudspeakers can't? If he couldn't hear it then he'd certainly see it on screen, or on the meters, as there'd be activity in the MC track where there shouldn't be. The fact that it's quieter also points to it being deliberate - if he'd just accidentally copied the section instead of dragging it to somewhere else, it would be at the same volume. I would say that he must have listened to the album so many times during the making, that something would have to be going very wrong if he hadn't heard that. Of course, there are a few other things that did seem to get overlooked, so who knows... Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: April 20 2004, 12:28 I'd like to think he just did it to add a bit of mystery to the album; maybe he thinks all classic albums need something like this, which people will be puzzled over   BTW, I don't see why people find it so annoying. Well, I see why, but I don't find it annoying. Not nearly as annoying as some other things on the album... Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: April 20 2004, 15:59 Quote (Holger @ April 20 2004, 12:28) I'd like to think he just did it to add a bit of mystery to the album; maybe he thinks all classic albums need something like this, which people will be puzzled over   Yeah, like the lady's scream in the Ohio Players' "Love Rollercoaster"! -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

TubularFamilyMan Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: June 2005 Posted: June 30 2005, 13:38 I was very puzzled about this as well and was about to post a topic like this before I saw this one. It's not that annoying... Back to top

Sweetpea Group: Members Posts: 1476 Joined: April 2007 Posted: May 21 2007, 01:38 Aha! Good to know I wasn't imagining things. I don't find it at all annoying, but rather a pleasant surprise. -------------- "I'm no physicist, but technically couldn't Mike both be with the horse and be flying through space at the same time? (On account of the earth's orbit around the Sun and all that). So it seems he never had to make the choice after all. I bet he's kicking himself now." - clotty Back to top

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