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Posted: Feb. 16 2005, 09:46

:D  :D  :D

Try here

Hi,
for a long time I am trying to make a synth that would sound atleast similar to Mike's sounds ...please try this and tell me what you think. If there will be interrest I can put up some parameters and tutorial how to make a sound like this

cya around

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Posted: Feb. 16 2005, 15:55

Well ! I'm french. Could you excuse my bad english ? :/ I'm a great Mike Oldfield fan and i think there's too much distortion and echo to be seemed the Mike's guits But your idea is very good  :cool: The Mike's guits into a vsti  :cool: Very good ! I use Orion and Traction and i'll love to try it  :cool: With my old personal multi effect  PANDORA Tone works model px1  by KORG I can catch this particular sound Perhaps it's help you  :/  bye
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Posted: Feb. 17 2005, 08:26

it actually isn't a VSTi :-)
but it could be if my friend who's good at programming will find a way to make it one...

actually there are a few limitations I am using a waveform of guitar (which is already a bit distorded) ...and the way I did it doesn't work at all with clean waveform :-/ and that's the problem about the distortion...

making it a VSTi has a few problems, though...
The first and biggest is that it was made in reason and I don't really know how the Scream device works...though making a distortion module and a kind of tape compression could make the same result...but could be a bit too difficult without a big result.

if anyone wants I can put up a Reason RSN file for you to look at.


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Posted: Feb. 18 2005, 07:33

The problem here is going to be the expression. Looks like you are using reason here - the trick would be having a subtle wahand a realistic vibrato both of which you could change whilst playing.

The wah on most synths is done by a low-pass or in some cases a band-pass filter with a moving cut-off frequency to make the wah sound. The only thing is that a lot of guitarists go through some kind of overdrive, compression or distortion before they go through a wah-wah pedal, so you'd really need to have your filter AFTER some distortion or you will find that the distortion exaggerates the frequencies which the filter is letting through by adding harmonics and all kinds of lovely things.

Most synths do vibrato by moving the pitch up above the original pitch and down below the original pitch, but when you do vibrato on a guitar you don't generally go lower unless you are using a tremolo arm. Programming the vibrato to happen after a certain time wouldn't work because it wouldn't always start at an appropriate time.

My suggested controllers: a pedal to do the wah, mod wheel or well-practised pitch bend for vibrato. Or get a guitar ;)
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Posted: Feb. 18 2005, 10:27

Mat: I have a guitar :-) for some time now...
check it here if you don't believe
but trying to make a good guitar sound on a synth is something challenging what I would love to be able to do once :)

hmmmm...I think you're using reason too, eh? wanna look at the setup?


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Posted: Feb. 18 2005, 17:12

One of the standard patches of distorted guitar on the Roland VA-7 synth I have sounds almost exactly like Mike's so-called screaming guitar. All that I'd have to do to make it perfectly equal would be removing the echo/delay, but I still have to find out how to. :D

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Posted: Feb. 27 2005, 14:04

Quote (BOOsTER @ Feb. 18 2005, 15:27)
hmmmm...I think you're using reason too, eh? wanna look at the setup?

I'd be interested in seeing the setup. Are you going to get Reason 3? You could send it as a Combinator preset. Or just the song file if that's easier. I think my e-mail address is on here.
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Posted: Feb. 27 2005, 14:26

I'm propably not going to get Reason 3 :-( as I got 2.5 for about 1/4 of the price...and Reason 3 seems still unaffordable though here is the song file from 2.5 including all samples:

http://gsim.djbooster.net/GuitarSim.rns

Feel free to do anything you like with it

btw...I know that the delay is BIIIIIIIIG...but :o( without it, it sounds dry :(


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Posted: Mar. 06 2005, 08:51

There are a couple of amazing guitar presets in Logic 7 which could be made to sound quite Oldfield-ish, I think. I'll have a fiddle with it when I get more time (I'm in the midst of writing dissertations and things just now).
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