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bee Group: Members Posts: 1227 Joined: Jan. 2004 Posted: Feb. 19 2004, 11:50 Every now and then , a certain track or part of a piece of Mike Oldfield's music becomes very relevant to my state of mind. I've been wondering about Guitars and some of the inspiration behind the 10 tracks. Although I don't think it is his very best album, it is good & I do listen to it quite a lot and I'd like to know what Cochise is all about. I have been unable to find out much about it. Any ideas? Or should I stop being so pedantic!! bee -------------- ....second to the right and straight on till morning.... You heard me before Yet you hear me again Then I die Till I call me again Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: Feb. 19 2004, 14:46 You might like to have a look at this article where he talks through some of what's behind the tracks. Cochise was a Native American chief - I'm not the Native American expert around here, but here are a few pages which should give you some useful info (I haven't checked its authenticity, but the stories seem to add up): http://www.linecamp.com/museums....se.html http://www.gbso.net/SKYHAWK/cochise.htm http://www.indians.org/welker/cochise.htm Back to top

Jammer Group: Members Posts: 643 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Feb. 19 2004, 16:36 Thanks, Korgscrew. Very informative. Stuff I never knew about Back to top

bee Group: Members Posts: 1227 Joined: Jan. 2004 Posted: Feb. 20 2004, 04:09 What a wonderful website this is! It's great to find out so much. Listening to Cochise now, I hear more. Thanks! What makes the music of Mike Oldfield unique is the fact that he draws his inspiration from all over the world. Wonderful stuff! -------------- ....second to the right and straight on till morning.... You heard me before Yet you hear me again Then I die Till I call me again Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Feb. 20 2004, 06:16 INTERESTING FACT (okay, okay, "uninteresting bore"): Mike Oldfield's "Cochise", according to Oldfield himself, is "loosely based in the first few bars of Led Zeppelin's Whole Lotta Love" (meaning the chugga-chugga-chugga guitar rhythm, I guess - also draws the melody from Jewel In The Crown, but that's for later). Audioslave's "Cochise", song from 2003, is a huge rip-off of Led Zeppelin's Whole Lotta Love! Coincidence? -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Mar. 07 2006, 06:50 As a result of a question posed about "Lakme" in the L&S topics, I've been directed here.  I've often wondered who or what was Cochise, now I know   . Thanks Korgscrew for the links, very informative, cool stuff.  Reading about Mike's inspiration for the tracks on Guitars, I've played Guitars with a new insight   .  I don't know why this album isn't so popular amongst fans. Just a thought about Out Of Mind, I've always heard a piece that wouldn't sound out of place on the Rolling Stones' Exile On Main Street, but sounds Stonesy with a MO twist.  I think if Mike were to jam with  Keith Richards or Ron Wood that would be interesting .  That's a point seeing as Mick Taylor played on Tubular Bells for the "Second House" programme if there were any jamming sessions between Mike and Mick. -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

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