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Iksion Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: Sep. 2006 Posted: Jan. 22 2007, 17:09 When im sad i just put on some music..Usuely its Mikes music....But  sometimes i have strange emotions thet i cant describe...Something like anger and sadness...Even music cant make them desapier.. And when i feel thet wey i just wona help someone...I dont care how i just wona make others happie..I wont to see them leagh....I dont know why , but like i feel there wey then..Then i feel strange and thet pain dissapiers.... I have no idea why i posted this... Does ever somone of you like to make others happie..? -------------- Im crazy old man, Im dressed in red, I drink sky like honey, enough i have said. Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Jan. 22 2007, 19:59 Interesting topic Iskion. I do find music can often alter my moods, I sometimes have these days where I feel I could rip someones head off I find a blast of say Metallica or Judas Priest cures that urge  , and returns me to my usual Peace and Love state. Earlier today I was playing Tubular Bells really loudly, I shed a few tears about 2 mins or so into the opening of Part 1.  NOt quite sure why I shed those tears, maybe I just felt a bit frustrated at my present situation, I'm currently looking for work, having recently lost my job, I'm also thinking about a divorce, as I've been living apart from my husband, I guess if there's no romantic love there then i guess there's little point in remaining married, however I would like to try and keep things friendly. I guess it's I've got so many things on my mind.  However playing Tubular Bells helped the ideas flow with what to write on these job applications. Regarding making others happy, yes maybe I feel I've spent my life trying to please others, I guess that's all very commendable, but I realised I was trying to please some people whose only aim seemed to be their own gratification. In my 35 years(so far) on this planet I've wisened up to that and have said goodbye, or more like good riddance to most these people. I can also see where people are using my friends too. I like to try and help others, maybe that's why I seem to be drawn to working as a youth worker, social worker( there's good ones as well as bad), or alternatively something that allows me to be creative. Yes i'm happy to assist a friend in need, I know my REAL friends would not take unfair advantage. If I can help a REAL friend in anyway then I will, as I like to see my friends happy   -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

TubularBelle Group: Members Posts: 1487 Joined: April 2004 Posted: Jan. 23 2007, 20:00 I listen to music less and less these days and I don't know why and it concerns me. I can only put it down to one thing and this is a little embarrassing to say and going to sound rather silly I think, but my physical relationship with my partner is on a very low shelf as far as he is concerned and it was always very important to me, right up there with my music, and even though I love him dearly and would never leave or have an affair because I am very happy in every other aspect of my life, it has left a huge hole in me as far as losing a part of myself, and without even realising it, I think that my interest in the music has been dying off with it. There would never be a day when I would sit at the computer without the music blaring, never, and it was mostly Mike, but now I have stopped turning the music on. Actually, how embarrassing, I just realised the main reason is because I am into You Tube now and I can't listen to videos and music at the same time, maybe it's that simple. But I might only spend half my time in You Tube or less and I still don't turn the music on anymore, or at any other time. In fact I can honestly say that since Xmas the only time I have listened to music is in the car on my new stereo and that I really enjoy. I guess it goes back to just being me and the music, we have discussed that before, no distractions. I hate putting music on as a background thing, I think it's disrespectfull to the artist. At least when I play my music I still give it my full attention. Anyway, thinking about what Galadriel said, "Regarding making others happy, yes maybe I feel I've spent my life trying to please others, I guess that's all very commendable, but I realised I was trying to please some people whose only aim seemed to be their own gratification. In my 35 years(so far) on this planet I've wisened up to that and have said goodbye, or more like good riddance to most these people". I have reached that stage of my life too. Especially regarding my sister and anyone who wants to know about that story can hear it in my 'Personal Tale' video on You Tube. My sister was just in town, Adelaide, South Australia, after living in Germany and England for 5 years, and it was really hard for me not to see her or talk to her. But she was a user, an unappreciater, a self gratifier, are they words? I wanted to do social work, I went to a meeting about it. But changed my mind because it demands too much of your time and takes you away from your own family. I think the ideal social worker would be someone who does not have a family of their own, or even a partner. My nephew has had 4 social workers in 3 years, they all quit to be with their families. I don't know what the system is like in other countries but these people were assigned many children to their care, it was impossible to do a good job or make a difference to that child and thats why they went into that field in the first place. If they paid them more we would get more Social Workers and the problem would be solved but in this country Child Welfare is low on the list of priorities. I think Music affects a persons mood as if it was a drug. Even people who drink or get stoned or take drugs to alter their moods, often cannot do it without music. I would still list listening to Tubular Bells stoned for the first time, in my mid twenties as an ultimate 'high'light of my life. Sorry to ramble. -------------- I hate getting up early. I didn't even realise there were two 6 o'clocks in one day! Back to top

Iksion Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: Sep. 2006 Posted: Jan. 24 2007, 17:56 Im glad thet someone responded... Once wize man said:"DOnt help where your help isnt needed..."i know when you help people usely been used and they throw you awey like trash... But do good thing is thet you know thet you did a good thing and even if they dont responde good...you feel good -------------- Im crazy old man, Im dressed in red, I drink sky like honey, enough i have said. Back to top

SoimSandheaver Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: May 2006 Posted: Jan. 25 2007, 03:51 Geez, I think I know exactly how you all feel. I too like making people feel happy, appreciated, and I've grown used to this because both my Dad and my older sister both suffer from depression. It has been sort of a daily custom to try and make them feel happy, even if the feeling does get irritating after doing it for the last 7-10 years of my life. Sometimes I just get really angry with myself saying "why me? Why should I be helping everybody? Why is it my family that has the problem? I'm only 17, and since the age of 7, I've been trying to help my Dad get better? What's the deal?" I had a similar to problem to that of my Dad and my sister when a series of mental breakdowns and panic attacks condemned me to 2-3 years in therapy at the age of 10. I'm glad to say, those days are long behind me. Likewise, I listen to music that suits my moods. I actually burnt myself four CDs in accordance with the 4 Elements (guess who the influence was), which suits the 4 Elements of Fire, Water, Air and Earth. That is true therapy... Anyway, gotta go. -------------- "Three blokes go into a pub, one of them's a little bit stupid, then the whole scene unfolds, with a tedious inevitability." Back to top

TubularBelle Group: Members Posts: 1487 Joined: April 2004 Posted: Jan. 25 2007, 08:41 In a very general way, this is what connects us all to Mike too. -------------- I hate getting up early. I didn't even realise there were two 6 o'clocks in one day! Back to top

arsarnerit Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: Jan. 2007 Posted: Jan. 25 2007, 14:08 After many years in which many choices i did in my life were driven or restricted in the attempt to please others, or rather not to disappoint them, lately i am mostly in search of my own happiness. What made me change my attitude were some replies i got from these people such as: "who made you do it", or, "if you really wanted to do it you would have ignored what i said". Also, some people always tend to complain even when you do something good. I listen to music according to my mood, though i have to say that Mike's music suits me in every situation, whether i am happy or sad. And in bad moments it makes me feel better. It's a very powerful music. I agree with Tracy that listening to music as a background is not as good as listening to it while doing nothing else, i cannot appreciate it fully  and i often pause to listen to a particular piece or go back to a track that i seemed to miss. -------------- And the man in the rain picked up his bag of secrets, and journeyed up the mountainside, far above the clouds, and nothing was ever heard from him again, except for the sound of Tubular Bells. Back to top

Bill Bobaggins Group: Members Posts: 477 Joined: June 2005 Posted: Jan. 25 2007, 20:46 I have always used music as therapy.  I personally feel it is important to truly feel each emotion to its fullest.  When I am happy I want to listen to happy music.  However, when I am depressed, I listed to the deepest, darkest, saddest music I can.  In fact, over the years, I have made a series of what I call "depression tapes" - those I listen to only when I am at my worst.  I think you need to fully explore your emotions to the extreme to truly understand and appreciate the opposite side of the spectrum. -------------- Speak friend and enter. Back to top

SoimSandheaver Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: May 2006 Posted: Jan. 26 2007, 09:29 Yeah, that's similar to what I did with the 4 CDs I burnt for myself. On "Fire", I burnt really raging, psychadelic, rock songs, full of burning fury and sheer rage. So, "Outcast" and "The Caveman Song" went on there, along with a few tracks by Arctic Monkeys, The Kinks and Blur. I want the feeling that someone is sharing my pain and angst whenever I listen to it. I also listen to it to block out the anxiety man passes on to man in the outside world...because the outside world can be a very scary place sometimes. On "Water", I burnt really slow, soothing tunes, ones that made me feel like I was at the sea, or had a slightly tear-jerking quality to them. So, "Taurus 1", "QE2" and "Man In The Rain" were included, along with a few classical tunes, such as "The Swan" by Saints-Saens. There were also a few gentle soft-rock songs such as "She's Leaving Home" by The Beatles, and "Boys Don't Cry" by The Cure. Whenever I listen to this, I want to be able to cool down quickly and feel at peace in the world. On "Air", I wanted really light songs that made me feel like I was floating, or like I was on air. So, there was a bit of "Five Miles Out" on there, "Far Above The Clouds" and "The Top Of The Morning" was too. I also included "Waterloo Sunset" by The Kinks. This is a CD I made up for use when "meditating", for lack of a better world. It makes me feel completely detatched from the world, and makes me look at the world from above, with vertigo completely disappeared. On "Earth", I put a few country songs in, as well as a few slightly humourous songs to remind me of the Earth. I put a few excerpts of "Hergest Ridge" on, and there was a few Chas n' Dave songs, including "Snooker Loopy", you can't get more green than that, can you? I also included a bit of John Denver and Johnny Cash, and I also included "The Great Beyond" by REM, because it makes me think about exploring the wide world, but without any fear of the people living in it. I guess this one just reminds me of where I am and makes me think what a life without fear and depression would be like. Well, that's a general overview of what I do in my quest for happiness. That's been hard when I've got exams on, and one of my exams is on a book about how a girl's quest for happiness ends in her being raped, rejected, abandoned, unemployed, driven to murder and eventually hanged. I've got Thomas Hardy and "Tess of the D'Urbervilles" to thank for that. At least Oscar Wilde's take on a fallen woman was a bit funnier. -------------- "Three blokes go into a pub, one of them's a little bit stupid, then the whole scene unfolds, with a tedious inevitability." Back to top

TubularBelle Group: Members Posts: 1487 Joined: April 2004 Posted: Jan. 29 2007, 23:04 WOW, very interesting. I was thinking about Mary saying when she is depressed she listens to deep and dark music. At my Dads funeral I chose the tunes 'Love song for my Mom' and 'Now I let it go' by Moby from the Animal Rights album. I wish I knew how to provide links because I would love for you to hear these two tunes, if anyone can do this for me I will be very gratefull. Anyway, I asked my sister what she thought of my choices and she said they were very melancholy and I wondered what she meant. Should I have chosen a song like, 'Yellow Submarine' instead? Of course not. I have these two tracks on a mixed cd that I have been listening to in the car recently and every time they come on they make me cry, of course I feel sad, they make me think of my Dad now and will be forever connected to him, but they make me feel so peacefull and so in touch with my emotions, I LOVE the feeling I get from them, although it can be embarrassing at the lights when someone looks in my direction and wonders what the hell I am crying about. But what does melancholy actually mean, I always thought it meant sad in a good way. What do you think? -------------- I hate getting up early. I didn't even realise there were two 6 o'clocks in one day! Back to top

Iksion Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: Sep. 2006 Posted: Jan. 30 2007, 08:00 TubularBelle thets so interesting! In some strange way i know what you mean.. Like your fathers spirite is in thet two songs...Mabe is thet you hear him throw thet songs and have thet strange emotions... -------------- Im crazy old man, Im dressed in red, I drink sky like honey, enough i have said. Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: Jan. 30 2007, 11:03 Quote (arsarnerit @ Jan. 25 2007, 13:08) I listen to music according to my mood, though i have to say that Mike's music suits me in every situation, whether i am happy or sad. And in bad moments it makes me feel better. It's a very powerful music. I agree with Tracy that listening to music as a background is not as good as listening to it while doing nothing else, i cannot appreciate it fully  and i often pause to listen to a particular piece or go back to a track that i seemed to miss. I thought I listened to bg music, but realised that I really don't.  Even if I am cleaning the house, I'm focused on what I am listening to. Who wants to focus on cleaning?  Dancing and running are also music-focused activities. I cannot even begin to run without music. I guess I can multitask pretty effectively with things like driving, cleaning, cooking, gardening, working out. I don't have time to only listen to music. Occasionally I even notice different things about it. I do, however, find music incredibly distracting when I am on the phone or trying to have an in-person conversation--even driving in the car with other people and talking. I have to turn it off, unless we are specifically listening to it together (in which case we're not talking <-; ) . I want to give the person my full attention, and I can't if I am also trying to listen to music. SoimSandheaver--I love the concept of the elemental CDs. I might try that! I agree, too, with Mary on music and mood. Sort of discovered that in high school. When we moved to Missouri, I found myself playing Gorecki's 3rd frequently, as well as the Killing Fields and various pieces of Native American music that focused on themes of genocide (cultural and physical). It was nearly a craving--I had to hear that music. I also continued to listen to some of Mike besides TKF, but not as much as usual. I loved my life in the Finger Lakes region of New York State--Missouri was a culture shock. Plus, I had just had a baby and was suffering from a touch of postpartum--not to mention relocating 1,000 miles away from family and friends.  I really think that those pieces helped me from developing full-fledged depression. For one thing, it kept me aware that I was still fortunate to be alive, have family someplace, food, income, etc.--and to stop my bellyaching. After a couple months of this, I started playing things Incantations more, and then I found TSODE, which was something to to focus on and choreograph. I had to fully experience the depths of my own sadness before I could let it go, and the music helped me to reach it. One final comment--happiness is an intrinsic thing. You can't make other people happy. You can create conditions to facilitate happiness in others, but in the end we are all responsible for our own happiness and it is impossible to make an unhappy person truly happy. We can walk lightly in other peoples' lives and not burden them with negativity, whether it is a kick in the shin or mean remarks. I don't feel very good inside when I've been negative. We can make contributions to their happiness--hugs, kind deeds--but those gestures get processed through the other person and their personality and prior experiences. Ultimately, walking kindly helps ourselves to be happier, and in the end, that really is all we can hope for (and that some of our happiness will rub off a bit, or at least be neutral in others' lives). -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Jan. 30 2007, 19:56 Quote (Inkanta @ Jan. 30 2007, 16:03) Quote (arsarnerit @ Jan. 25 2007, 13:08) I listen to music according to my mood, though i have to say that Mike's music suits me in every situation, whether i am happy or sad. And in bad moments it makes me feel better. It's a very powerful music. I agree with Tracy that listening to music as a background is not as good as listening to it while doing nothing else, i cannot appreciate it fully  and i often pause to listen to a particular piece or go back to a track that i seemed to miss. I thought I listened to bg music, but realised that I really don't.  Even if I am cleaning the house, I'm focused on what I am listening to. Who wants to focus on cleaning?  Dancing and running are also music-focused activities. I cannot even begin to run without music. I guess I can multitask pretty effectively with things like driving, cleaning, cooking, gardening, working out. I don't have time to only listen to music. Occasionally I even notice different things about it. I do, however, find music incredibly distracting when I am on the phone or trying to have an in-person conversation--even driving in the car with other people and talking. I have to turn it off, unless we are specifically listening to it together (in which case we're not talking <-; ) . I want to give the person my full attention, and I can't if I am also trying to listen to music. One final comment--happiness is an intrinsic thing. You can't make other people happy. You can create conditions to facilitate happiness in others, but in the end we are all responsible for our own happiness and it is impossible to make an unhappy person truly happy. We can walk lightly in other peoples' lives and not burden them with negativity, whether it is a kick in the shin or mean remarks. Indeed Inkanta , who wants to focus on cleaning   , I turn my music up LOUD whilst cleaning.  Thankfully my neighbours are OK about my music, apart from one, who moaned about me playing Ommadawn at 9am on a Saturday morning, but gave me a bklast of George Michael YUK at 3am.  Should have left her locked out the flats  in the rain one Saturday night when she forgot her key. Still she's moved out now, so Ommadawn played LOUD and in peace . If I do a longer walk especially if I'm alone I like to take music with me.  Driving if I'm alone in the car I love to play music, also with a friend if a friend is in the car with me,I had great fun driving around Herefordshire/Powys with Tubular Bells blasting from the car stereo.  I sometimes play it LOUD, but also keep it down a bit to hold a conversation.  I think before I passed my test I was in the car with my ex husband  and a his  friend , Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti was blasting from the stereo,as I was going down a steep hill, nearly ended up in a field, imagine saying to the insurance company "Robert  Plant caused me to crash" , guess I was thinking naughty thoughts about one certain Mr Plant Heheheee!!!! Agreed that happiness is an intrinsic thing, some of the remarks I've heard directed at depressed people seems to be amazing. It's no good telling a depressed person to "Snap out of it" or that "It's all in the mind", or if they lack motivation they're just being "lazy" . Yes epression is an illness, I mean you wouldn't tell a cancer sufferer that the cancer is all in thier mind.   I guess I've had that when I've been at my most low, certain people putting it down to being "lazy". I think the main difference between laziness and depression if it's  laziness you simply couldn't be bothered to do a thing, but with depression you can't be motivated however you wish for the depression to end, but quite simply it won't until the depressed person has to want to make that change. It won't work trying to do things to make others happy , change has to come from within. As a point my parents tried to get me to loose weight a few years ago,even paying for me to join Weight Watchers but it wouldn't work. The timing was wrong, Yes I felt I had many issues not properly dealt with, guess my way of dealing with this was to "comfort eat" but this only seemed to compound the problem. Now I feel I've dealt with issues to my satisfaction, if negative thoughts creep in I can counteract them with positive thoughts, and 9 times out of 10 this works for me. Having the right people around can help but true happiness can only come from within. -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

SoimSandheaver Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: May 2006 Posted: Jan. 31 2007, 03:51 Guess it reminds a bit about the Beatles... Altogether now: "I get by with a little help from my friends...oh, I get high with a little help from my friends, gonna try with a little help from my friends." TTFN. -------------- "Three blokes go into a pub, one of them's a little bit stupid, then the whole scene unfolds, with a tedious inevitability." Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: Jan. 31 2007, 22:15 I was going to add more this morning and lost my entire post. Here is the brief, running out of time version (collective "yay!" can be heard winding through cyberspace! ). Helping others can boost one's happiness level. I think that's one reason people go into the service professions like librarianship, social work, patient care, teaching., etc. Those professions are generally not lucrative, but they can be very satisfying (though some burnout /-: ). A musician must find it self-satisfying to create a piece of music that pleases himself/herself; it must totally rock when it is liked by others (and maybe some are even transformed by it) !  Even if one is not employed outside the home, there are volunteer opportunities, and you never know where those can lead. There are so many areas needing volunteers, from animal shelters to youth organizations. In the end, you end up feeling very good inside, too, i.e., you help yourself by helping others. Folks who are clinically depressed would have a hard time reaching out to help anyone, themselves included. Like you say, Galadriel, it is certainly not a matter of laziness. Depression is as much a disease as is cancer. And as with cancer, sometimes medical intervention is required for recovery. Those with mild depression might be able to extend a helping hand to others and recover. I was helped through my touch of postpartum by allowing myself to feel profoundly sad, but then by dancing. There were a few days that I didn't want to go out of the house to face anyone, like would have been required by running. But I could dance privately. Dance step by dance step helped me to get beyond needing Gorecki on a daily basis. Finally, a few months after moving to Missouri, I was ready for a job and to become involved in the community. I should add that for the first three months here I was finishing up a major project for the job that I left in New York, so I couldn't look for anything until after that. It was excruciating feeling depressed and trying to do a good job on a major project! But..I got through it. (But only because the depression wasn't major, I suppose.....) -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

SoimSandheaver Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: May 2006 Posted: Feb. 01 2007, 03:53 Quote (Inkanta @ Feb. 01 2007, 03:15) A musician must find it self-satisfying to create a piece of music that pleases himself/herself; it must totally rock when it is liked by others (and maybe some are even transformed by it) ! I understand what you're saying there. Although I'm not a musician myself (although I would love to be), I like to be a Creative Writer. I write a few poems and try to write stories. Where I'd start well, I sometimes break down and fall, and suffer a lot of self-criticism, where I'd discard my idea, thinking it had been done before, and if I did it would be rubbish. So, completing the stories and poems is a theraputic way of defeating these criticising phantoms that try to plague me. Anyway, gotta go. Love and Peace. -------------- "Three blokes go into a pub, one of them's a little bit stupid, then the whole scene unfolds, with a tedious inevitability." Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Feb. 01 2007, 20:28 Quote (Inkanta @ Feb. 01 2007, 03:15) Helping others can boost one's happiness level. I think that's one reason people go into the service professions like librarianship, social work, patient care, teaching., etc. Those professions are generally not lucrative, but they can be very satisfying (though some burnout /-: ). A musician must find it self-satisfying to create a piece of music that pleases himself/herself; it must totally rock when it is liked by others (and maybe some are even transformed by it) !  Even if one is not employed outside the home, there are volunteer opportunities, and you never know where those can lead. There are so many areas needing volunteers, from animal shelters to youth organizations. In the end, you end up feeling very good inside, too, i.e., you help yourself by helping others. Folks who are clinically depressed would have a hard time reaching out to help anyone, themselves included. Like you say, Galadriel, it is certainly not a matter of laziness. Depression is as much a disease as is cancer. And as with cancer, sometimes medical intervention is required for recovery. Those with mild depression might be able to extend a helping hand to others and recover. Indeed voluntary work can help boost ones happiness level. I guess viewing my employment over the years that which I most enjoyed was the volunteer work, alough at the Women's Centre the volunteers would end up doing much of the admin /reception type work. I didn't mind this, however I wished I'd have been more involved in the "Drop In", I did quite enjoy arranging the displays of literature/posterboards, my way of being artistic perhaps. Yes I love experimenting with colours and decorating things. I think as a result of my work at the Women's Centre I also helped  set up and run a website/messageboard for female survivors of rape/(childhood)sexual abuse. I wonder when a musician composes a peice of music to satisfy him/herself , I wonder if he/she has others in mind. If I take Mike's music  he created  Tubular Bells, Ommadawn and Hergest Ridge  as  a catharsis for himself, but did he realise the  positive vibes  it would have on others??? For me any of the "Holy Trinity" mentioned above has had such a positive effect, but ask my husband , he would say that Mike "Destroyed my marriage", but surely only the people in close to it can do that. Perhaps he just didn't wish to see the warning signs, still impossible to save if only one partner is willing to try. Yes I've been called "lazy", especially by my ex  husband when I've been depressed, even when I haven't but this is demotivation which is different, lazyness is not wanting to do anything but depression is where you want to do something but   can't. It's no good telling a depressed person that "It's all  in the mind" or to "Snap out of it". -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

Iksion Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: Sep. 2006 Posted: Feb. 06 2007, 06:10 Quote (moonchildhippy @ Feb. 01 2007, 20:28) It's no good telling a depressed person that "It's all  in the mind" or to "Snap out of it". Yea thets the same thing i think! But when i say thet to someone they all tell me thet thoes words always help to depresed persons... And thets not true... You are right moonchild,worst thing is to say to depresed people is thoes words and "its all gona be allright.." -------------- Im crazy old man, Im dressed in red, I drink sky like honey, enough i have said. Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Feb. 06 2007, 19:11 Quote (Iksion @ Feb. 06 2007, 11:10) Quote (moonchildhippy @ Feb. 01 2007, 20:28) It's no good telling a depressed person that "It's all  in the mind" or to "Snap out of it". Yea thets the same thing i think! But when i say thet to someone they all tell me thet thoes words always help to depresed persons... And thets not true... You are right moonchild,worst thing is to say to depresed people is thoes words and "its all gona be allright.." I think the depressed person hat to want to "snap out of it" for want of a better terminology of his/her own free will. Anyway speaking of happiness I'm one of four people who have been shortlisted for interview for a Youth Worker vacancy   . If successful the vacancy would involve working with young people who look after  disabled parent(s). Having previously looked after my former husband with MS I know what these young people go through. Must be tough on them as they don't have the opportinity to be young. Initially this job is 9 hous a week, but I'm hoping this post will become more permanent. I guess as a temporary measure to top up my money I'll have to see if I can find work in my local Tesco store , I'm not saying working for Tescos is boring, no more boring than I imagine Sainsburys or any other supermarket chain  is. Sitting on the tills those constant blips when scanning items would drive me nuts. I would say that I feel at my happiest now than I've done for some while  .  Here's an opportunity for me to get into the type of work I'd really like to be doing YIPPEEE     -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

TubularBelle Group: Members Posts: 1487 Joined: April 2004 Posted: Feb. 07 2007, 03:10 Good Luck with getting into Youth Work, I hope you know what you are getting into. When I applied for a position as a youth worker, I was put off by the very honest speeches given by youth workers about how difficult (and yet rewarding) this kind of work is, but it was their job to try and make it sound rewarding. The reality is I found after asking all 4 of my nephews youth workers who quit after a few months, was that it took them away from their own families, and they were given ridiculous expectations of having to be responsible for so many children that it was impossible to adequately care for their own children, let alone just one of these wards who had been bundled into a sack and thrown at them from a moving car window (well thats how I imagine it would have felt at the time). -------------- I hate getting up early. I didn't even realise there were two 6 o'clocks in one day! Back to top

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