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Topic: "I used to be a fan but I'm all right now", - a.k.a. time wounds all heels< Next Oldest | Next Newest >
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Posted: Aug. 22 2011, 16:43

Ok, sorry for the somewhat silly topic title but it sort of bears a truth. Having just recently joined this forum, I now thought to bore you all to bits with my own personal Oldfield fandom saga.

I'll try and keep a long story short, excuse me however if I resort to rambling!

Once upon a time in the Early Eighties yours truly was just starting to get exited by a hobby called "music" & happened to borrow an album called "Tubular Bells" from the local library's vinyl collection - it was on the strength of the cover design IIRC.

The first listening experience on my parents' stereo system went somewhat like this: "erm really weird... but wait... there's something pretty interesting happening now... and now... sod it where did I hear this theme before... aww... cor, it's fantastic"

This was the time when cd's hadn't really quite yet arrived on the market, and on the other hand vinyl versions of Oldfield's (old) albums weren't exactly growing on trees, at least not where I lived (a small village near Tampere, in Finland).

Sometime afterwards however I came across vinyl copies of HR, Ommadawn AND Incantations at a shop and remember the guilty (ha) feeling I got when I bought them all at one go - not only because of it felt like a shopping extravaganza but also because at the time I only barely could afford them & was a bit worried that me parents would butcher me and have me for breakfast next day on a vinyl plate. Well they obviously didn't, bless their socks, but I did receive some truly suspicious glances and snide remarks when they actually heard the music!

This changed me life for a few years. At least music-wise. Ended up buying the rest of the albums, too, all I could find that is, and it all sounded brilliant. Oldfield became a sort of demi-god to me, everything he had done was wonderful; any criticism towards His Work was futile and would probably only have been met with scorn, if not actually a hail of stones from my general direction.

Well. This phase (best described as "rabid") went on until about the album "Islands" - after some time however I noticed to my surprise that I wasn't all that sure if it was the masterpiece I was expecting it to be. The heroic aura hitherto surrounding MO and his music was beginning to wear off; I started to move towards other things in life from my late teenage years, also in music.

I kept the vinyl albums instead of taking them to the local scond hand music shop... but when cd versions became reality I only purchased the early ones, up to and including "Incantations" (anyone remember that awful first cd edition? Now that was a nasty shock). A long time passed until I actually felt the urge to "return to the other stuff" and eventually I ended up purchasing the HDCD albums up to "Discovery".

It's funny to say this considering how big a fan I used to be, but I haven't even properly heard, or felt the urge to hear, any albums of his after Islands. Oops. This is pretty much how I still feel now. (Says he, preparing for a barrage of Amarok listening suggestions. No, I haven't heard it I must confess! )

Now... I only return to albums like "Five Miles Out", "QE2" and "Discovery" sporadically, and somehow, I've kind of lost that old fandom. They're ok -and every now and then I even think they include many brilliant moments- but rather than considering them the best music ever I just seem to end up feeling nostalgia for those times when I did consider them such, and used to spin them on the record player day in day out.

Only HR - Ommadawn -Incantations seem to have that "special something" to me now & I still find myself going back to them on a regular basis, and they still leave me speechless. (Ok, TB as well, but even in my most rabid fan days I sort of considered it a bit patchy when compared to the "Trinity" that followed.)

Maybe I'm missing something, dunno. Re: the newer albums. But the funny thing is I do not greatly care, either way - it's been a lovely road and it still is with the said three/four MO albums I really really like... and while it's nice to have the other old favourites, too, I rarely listen to them at all. You might almost say I just have them for nostalgic reasons, as some sort of mementos to the past.... and you probably wouldn't be far from the truth there.

The reason behind this story - or rather the question behind it - is this: am I a true fan? :D

Or perhaps some of you also have a similar history...?
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Posted: Aug. 22 2011, 18:27

I am facing a similar problem Sammy. I remember the first time I listened to Taurus 1 and it was just magic. Now when I listen it I think it's a great, great song, but the magic somehow has worn of. I hate it that this is happening to me and I as if I'm becoming more and more dull as years go by.

You said you have listened to anything Mike's made after Islands? I would definitely recommend you Amarok as a lot of Tublarians find that quite possibly the best of Mr Oldfield.

P.S. I still consider Mike a demi-god  :) and I hope I will for a long time to come.


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Posted: Aug. 23 2011, 00:59

Dear Sammy I think H R Lover is giving you good advice you should try AMAЯR۞Ж as you may well be a reborn pilgrim/disciple & find your self reliving that magical first MO MOment almost to the letter [YOU WROTE:The first listening experience on my parents' stereo system went somewhat like this: "erm really weird... but wait... there's something pretty interesting happening now... and now... sod it where did I hear this theme before... aww...(۞MMADAWN this time round) cor, it's fantastic"] & I think upon giving Amarok a spin you will relive these words.

Myself I have an overall love for all his works however I think I can safely say out of all of them Incantations LIVE & Amarok are the two I could not be without.

I do hope this helps to convince you to try it, (at least 3 times mind you) the album needs to get well watered in ORDER for it to get its roots firmly attached & then it will grow on you!.  Well once again I hope we have sown a seed in you that you will find fruitful.
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Posted: Aug. 23 2011, 04:30

Well I saw that Amarok thing coming my way  :D

I'll maybe need to check that album out. HR Lover: I don't think we're necessarily getting duller - tastes just change I guess one has to accept that. A similar "loss of interest" has happened to me regarding certain other artists, too, that I once almost revered as infallible sources - David Sylvian (GBTH ;) ) for example; haven't really warmed much to his later efforts although I can still appreciate the fact he's still at it.

I've come to realise and accept that it's not necessarily their music that's "not so interesting anymore" - it's just my own relation to it and my own interests & tastes that have somewhat changed, and while I can sort of appreciate the fact that these artists I've liked a lot still make music, and different sort of music than they used to, the concept of "being a fan" is different to me now. I think someone has said "to move forward you must kill your heroes" - figuratively speaking only of course- now I maybe see what that means.

I bet none of us would like to lose that "magic" that discovery of something new brings with it. Alas, it probably is impossible to relive those particular feelings with the same albums or artists all the time; it's rather like LURV really innit, if you're only happy with the sparkling feeling that you get when you first fall in love with someone, you'll most probably be disappointed later on in that relationship.

Luckily, however, I think most of you will also agree that those albums that do not necessarily appeal to you on the first listen may often turn out to be the most rewarding ones.

Or then perhaps not. There seems to be no watertight rules in either music or love.

I still do like Mike's music and I don't think I'll ever give up all those albums that were so important to me back when... but I'm also somewhat relieved to have passed the phase of pouring gold, frankincense and myrrh onto the MO altar daily!

I might however occasionally succumb to preaching about Ommadawn or Incantations as the musical equivalents of the Shroud of Turin. Mea culpa!
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Posted: Aug. 23 2011, 08:25

If I were you, I wouldn't worry about being a true fan -- and in fact, a "true fan" to me is that fan who has no fear in sharing his feelings, and you fit in quite well. Also, being honest with yourself is much more fruitful than pleading a useless "loyalty" to the artist. We are all free to enjoy what we like, and what truly matters is the everlasting effect that the music had in us. I may not listen to Tubular Bells every day now, but I still remember how it was when I did, and I cherish that fondly.

All that said, do check out Amarok someday, if you get the chance. ;)


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Posted: Aug. 23 2011, 08:49

Quote (Sir Mustapha @ Aug. 23 2011, 15:25)
If I were you, I wouldn't worry about being a true fan -- and in fact, a "true fan" to me is that fan who has no fear in sharing his feelings, and you fit in quite well. Also, being honest with yourself is much more fruitful than pleading a useless "loyalty" to the artist. We are all free to enjoy what we like, and what truly matters is the everlasting effect that the music had in us. I may not listen to Tubular Bells every day now, but I still remember how it was when I did, and I cherish that fondly.

Well said, Sir - and I'm not seriously worrying about being or not being a "true fan" - I know where I stand. It's just that the "old me" certainly would not have regarded my current self as one!

A propos Tubular Bells... it's certainly been an important album and I value it a lot, although as said I tend not to listen to it so much anymore. So yes, perhaps there's a degree of "holiness" to it. Despite this me and a friend went even as far as inventing a vaguely sacrilegeous alternative version - the Orson Wells mix of the ending of Pt1 where, instead of the instruments' names, you'd hear a list of what he's going to gobble up next.

Gran Padano... mandarin... Spanish paella and introducing seafood paella... too slightly, deep-fried paella!...

...and so on, until one ends up with "globular Wells".

Admitted, a few ales were consumed in the imaginary remixing process.
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Posted: Aug. 23 2011, 11:54

Quote (Sammy @ Aug. 23 2011, 08:49)
...and so on, until one ends up with "globular Wells".

Brilliant!  I want to hear it.

It occurs to me that I'd love to hear the great Werner Herzog intoning a version...

"two slightly disappointed guitars..."

On the "falling off of fandom" syndrome, it's common - as you say, in any love relationship be it interpersonal or aesthetic, there is bound to be a point in time when you take the object of desire off that pedestal and examine it closely.  Hmmm, the workmanship of the nose leaves a bit to be desired and is that a large crack across the back?

I have recently made an effort to get further into MO's later ouevre and although there's nothing quite like the genius of the first four (and 95% of Amarok) I would recommend the following in chronological post-Islands order:

Amarok
Tubular Bells II
Songs of Distant Earth
Tubular Bells III
Light and Shade (with trepidation)
Music of the Spheres

There are high points on the others but these I can largely listen to without skipping tracks (okay, 2 or 3 on L&S)

TBIII is my favourite post-Amarok album - play that a lot.

Enjoy and do report back on the album bit of the forums (forii?)

GB
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Posted: Aug. 23 2011, 13:01

Quote (BornInTheUK @ Aug. 23 2011, 18:54)
Brilliant!  I want to hear it.

It occurs to me that I'd love to hear the great Werner Herzog intoning a version...

"two slightly disappointed guitars..."

Hi - sadly, the circumstances were such that this particular "old-fart invention" was not really recorded for posterity in any way - actually the idea came to us (me and an old friend from my university days) in a swimming pool, while an old vinyl copy of TB was happily blasting away in the background. Now that was a fun night.

Thanks for the album suggestions, I'll bear those in mind. It seems I really do need to investigate into Amarok - this is not the only venue where I've heard good things said about the album. Let's see when it happens, I'll try and remember to keep you posted.

Incidentally, you could also make a Mr Mann version, with "two slightly disappointed horses". Maybe that would be more Ommadawn territory though.
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