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Posted: May 22 2003, 03:45

Hello everyone, this is my first shot at this...

Queen and Huntress

I had a presentation last month in my Music and Literature class, where we did an analysis of two musical settings of Ben Jonson's poem "Queen and Huntress": Benjamin Britten's and Mike Oldfield's. As a personal challenge to myself (and without telling the Professor or my fellow group-members), I decided to see if I could record my own arrangement of the Oldfield setting. This is a series of layered guitar tracks with two voice tracks.


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Khoa Tran


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Posted: May 22 2003, 09:47

Interesting track you've got there. Very special guitar sounds you produce.

The first minute sounds good. Nice guitars playing well together.

In the second minute you try to play the theme with an acoustic guitar, while accompagning it with the electric one. I think their volumes aren't well balanced. The main theme should stand out a bit more. I know, it's difficult to let it stand out well without sounding to unnaturel, but I think it really would improve the track.

The voice is great. Goes very well with the elec guitar. Good piece of music.

The bell thingy's you use at the end sound odd, though. Kinda a-rhythmic. Spoils the end, I think.

In general: not perfect, but very nice idea's in it.


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Posted: May 22 2003, 20:14

Of course it's not perfect, Ancient! He recorded it the night before he had to use it (I get that right?)! :p

I really like it. Interesting guitar sounds. The whole thing is captivating in it's own way just as the original is.


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Posted: May 22 2003, 21:56

Thank you both for your comments. Yup, I recorded this the night before my presentation, and sort of sprung it as a "surprise" for everyone. The "bell thingies" at the end is actually a coffee mug being hit by a pen, put through several layers of reverb. Yeah, that's one of the parts that I'd definitely redo. That was done last (getting into the wee early hours of the morning), after I had tried fashioning my own egg maracca out of a plastic container and rice, and improvising other makeshift percussion instruments from stuff in my apartment -- it must have drove my neighbours nuts to have this guy banging on things and singing the same thing multiple times at two o'clock in the morning! If I were to redo this, I'd also re-record the vocals with a better mic, since I'm working with a $15 computer mic (software "fixing" only takes you so far!;).

Actually, I should also mention that we got a lot of the information for the presentation from Tubular.net, and we credited it as such :-)


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Khoa Tran


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Posted: May 26 2003, 02:58

Just FYI, "Queen and Huntress" is really "Ode to Cynthia" from "Cynthia's Revels".

I am credited with this discovery (Oldfield's use of the poem as lyrics) on Mike Oldfield University.

BTW there is an interesting correspondence between Ode to Cynthia and the Song of Hiawatha (track II of Incantations); both use the same rhythmic pattern. I am not a literature expert so I am not sure of the 'rhyming style' used in both quotations.
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Posted: May 26 2003, 07:41

it's good...except the guitar distortions... I would suggest to use compressor and maybe EQ to make it sound a bit clearer :o) ...hmm nice voice ...put on some vocoder :o)

About your guitar skills sounds you can play quite good :o) keep on good work.

it sounds like done in a hurry but mate this would be fantastic if you would have more time for that....means the time it deserves ...good!


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Posted: June 11 2003, 23:55

Thank you for your comments. I've made a couple of small tweaks as per suggestions to the file. The main guitar theme after the first minute has been boosted slightly in volume, as have the vocals. The "bell thingies" at the end have been cut short, and the distorted guitar's been compressed ever so slightly.

I've been planning to redo the vocals, but I've also been trying to recover from a particularly nasty throat infection :-( Once I've kicked that, I can try to hack this song again and get around to fixing it up some more, in addtion to being the "MC" for the group project :-)


Booster: What sort of EQ settings would you recommend?

Mr. Glass: I checked out Mike Oldfield University -- quite an interesting site. I don't think the poem itself has a title at all, from the gloss over of the play that I did when I was putting my presentation together, and I think the stage directions are simply "Enter Hesperus, singing." So variously, in addition to "Ode to Cynthia," "Hymn to Diana," and "Hymn of Hesperus," the classical music catalogues and such have also simply referred to musical settings of the poem as "Queen and Huntress," after the first line.


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Posted: June 12 2003, 06:19

Sounds very good! You've really done a good job! The acoustic guitar playing the main theme stands out with it's own distinctive sound without suppressing the electric one. Good job!

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Posted: June 12 2003, 09:15

Sorry for long delay before replying ;)

I would try to take down the high frequencies on the distorded guitars...since it's what is usually iritating to ears...sometimes even ears hurting...


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Posted: Aug. 09 2003, 15:44

Really nice voice! There was bit too much echo on the guitar, but all in all very nice! Would love to hear more. :)
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Posted: Nov. 06 2003, 12:46

really nice......

especially the way the guitar-playin' is done.
maybe I'm not impartial on this 1, 'cause it's one of my fav. M.O.-tunes, but after a 3rd listen I won't change my opinion.....
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Posted: Mar. 05 2004, 13:54

ok
i'm gonna tell you sort of curious thing
actually i know many songs of oldfield but i'm not much in the names of them :), i knew this song (you had asked) in fact i tried to cover it not long ago and still have some keyboards recordings of it :) veyr different from yours, but definetly i had given it a try myself XD, so curious and it's one of my favourite if not my favourite song of oldfield, in fact this is a popular poem, and my first name is CYNTHIA which i came interested of the song quite long ago

so mixing our points of view as suggested?
it could be funny :) XD


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Posted: Oct. 14 2004, 11:09

it's a good piece

Thanx!


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Posted: Oct. 25 2004, 07:32

I’ve thrown a sticky today so I have time to post
And download
I like this it has a real raw sound and the ambiance of live recording
Thank you
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Posted: Nov. 06 2004, 07:38

We couldn't resist! I wanted to see how my voice fit in with yours and we added a couple of things to your mix. Hope we didn't screw it up heh. If you don't like it, just give a hollar.

www.streamload.com/eccopurda/ktran queen and huntress.mp3


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Posted: Dec. 01 2004, 06:59

great work  -  i like it
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