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Posted: Jan. 11 2003, 13:37

Hello this is Tommes again,

thx for your replies on my past thread (Jungle Gardenia).

Here comes the next track - it was really hard to play:

Incantations_remixed.mp3

Comments are very welcome.

Another time thx to jot.be for hosting this track.
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Posted: Jan. 12 2003, 11:35

I must say; Really nice. I can understand that it's hard to play... But I think you managed very well! Hope you'll keep on the good work, and that you'll share these nice tracks with us.

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Posted: Jan. 12 2003, 20:56

I've just started to go through and get all these fan tracks: this is a very nice version of Incantations. The guitar sound is very good, much like Mike's. I can imagine how that would be hard to play, but you managed very well.

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Posted: Jan. 16 2003, 15:18

Very good indeed and very proffessional!!!.What guitar did you use as it is exactly the trademark sound of Mike's?.

I love the second movement when the rythm kicks in,a very clever treatment giving it a modern feel but not loosing the feel of the original.

If mike were to tour and have this in his set list I would imagine he would give it this kind of feel.

Well done indeed!!!.

PS,what kind of gear have you got and what do you record,master etc on as I have a studio of my own and am interested? :)
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Posted: Jan. 17 2003, 06:08

very nice
the sounds are really good, and yes, the guitar sound is close to the original one
nice synths too


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Posted: Mar. 11 2003, 16:08

I have always liked incantations. Kind of a oriental TB. And I also like this version.

Just a few remarks:

-The repetative 'ticking' sound you use at 1'05'' is quite distracting. Maybe it's due to the sound settings on my computer? Don't know. But anyway, when the melody comes in, I don't notice it anymore, so it isn't a big problem. :D

-The transition at 2'45'' sounds a bit weird, kinda a-rhythmic. If I'm not mistaken, the original transposes immediately. If it would be my choice, and if I would want to delay the transition, I would delay it one, two, four or maybe three counts. But Incantations ís weird music, so maybe it was your intention to do it this way?


Anyway, it sounds quite professionally. Nice job.


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Posted: Mar. 13 2003, 03:28

i thought it was fab, as incantations is my favourtie of mikes, if you can do anymore from the album, let me know, im all ears!
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Posted: Mar. 20 2003, 09:06

Your guitar playing is so much like Mike's it's uncanny! I really enjoyed your recording, perhaps the most accurate I've heard here. The only thing I would say is that the drums in the second movement seem a bit out of place - would you have the ability to mix in your other parts with live percussion? If that were possible it would be perfect. Anyway, sorry to be nit-picking. Well done!  :D

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Posted: Jan. 30 2004, 04:23

sounds really cool I like it!

the only thing that is your minus tommes :D
you make all people here frustrated :)))
just kidding! keep on! :)


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Posted: Jan. 30 2004, 04:46

hi
thumbs up - both of them

give us more!
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Yuval Offline




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Posted: Feb. 03 2004, 07:58

hard to play???
i really am a modest person i swear!
but its one of the first things I played and i dont think its hard and im not a professional guitar player. way far from being so.
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Posted: Feb. 03 2004, 15:27

Mr. Yuval,

Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe you're just joking and I'm a bit too dense to understand, but I found your comment rather quite disappointing, especially coming from someone whose musicianship I admire.

Now, though you don't see yourself as a professional guitar player, I will be the first to admit that you're a  very talented musician and composer -- I have very much enjoyed and have been impressed by the variety of works you've posted here -- and I'll also be the first to admit that in terms of guitar playing, you're so far ahead of me (and many others) that we might as well be on different planets.

However, when you say that the solo from Incantations IV (I'm assuming this is what you're referring to) was "one of the first things" you played, and that it's not hard at all, a certain level of arrogance comes across. The "first things" that people normally learn how to play are simple melodies and open chords. Many people who play guitar spend their entire lives not able to reach the level of technical proficiency needed to play it, but nevertheless can go about making good music. It's not hard for you, and it may not be difficult for a large number of guitarists, but you needn't deride those who "aren't that good." Tommes has done a fine job. Not perfect, of course, but certainly something to be proud of, and if he found it difficult to play, but learned how to do it anyhow, then all the better.


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Posted: Feb. 03 2004, 15:34

Quote (ktran @ Feb. 03 2004, 15:27)
Mr. Yuval,

Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe you're just joking and I'm a bit too dense to understand, but I found your comment rather quite disappointing, especially coming from someone whose musicianship I admire.

Now, though you don't see yourself as a professional guitar player, I will be the first to admit that you're a  very talented musician and composer -- I have very much enjoyed and have been impressed by the variety of works you've posted here -- and I'll also be the first to admit that in terms of guitar playing, you're so far ahead of me (and many others) that we might as well be on different planets.

However, when you say that the solo from Incantations IV (I'm assuming this is what you're referring to) was "one of the first things" you played, and that it's not hard at all, a certain level of arrogance comes across. The "first things" that people normally learn how to play are simple melodies and open chords. Many people who play guitar spend their entire lives not able to reach the level of technical proficiency needed to play it, but nevertheless can go about making good music. It's not hard for you, and it may not be difficult for a large number of guitarists, but you needn't deride those who "aren't that good." Tommes has done a fine job. Not perfect, of course, but certainly something to be proud of, and if he found it difficult to play, but learned how to do it anyhow, then all the better.


rgds,

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Heh Khoa :) I think you have good mannors I would say a lot of things even harder! gotta agree anyway!

Mr. Yuval maybe a little apologize would be in place now don't you think? :P
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Posted: Feb. 04 2004, 00:15

I think it's important that we don't lose sight of the supportive atmosphere here. The aim of comments should be, I feel, if not to congratulate then to assist in improvement.

So Tommes now knows that, while he found this solo hard to play, someone else says he found it incredibly easy...what does that tell him?

Does this mean he's doing something wrong? Or is the person saying this just incredibly gifted? Or is he being lied to, so as to undermine him, or to gain a reaction? He just doesn't know...so was the comment helpful? Supportive? No, it wasn't. It's a bit like telling someone he's played a wrong note without telling him where it is...

Now, a helpful reply might ask what he had difficulty with. It might suggest some useful techniques which would enable him to play the solo, and others like it, with greater ease in future. It might offer him support, saying that though he might have found it hard, he should keep playing as the recording has turned out well...or it could say that maybe the recording hasn't turned out as well as it could have, but that he shouldn't give up because he's almost got it right.

Those things will help him learn. What will he learn from being told that it's so easy that even a beginner could play it? Perhaps a lot about the person who's telling him...
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Posted: Feb. 18 2004, 03:40

First of all, All my opologies to whoever got offended by my post, especially to tommes who I find a great guitar player and you can check it on my very envy post on his inca part 3 job.
When I first listened to exposed on 89 or something I was going wild by the powerful e.guitar version of the begining of inca part 2. I didnt even have an e.guitar back then and i took my classic, sat all day till this solo came out, and I hardly even knew how to play back then. Yes I admit - it does not justify my offending post, but I was refering it only to the beginning of part.2 - the rest of tommes's job I cant even play today, and as a proof you can see barndon just send me tabs of part.3 long solo. I really am rather modest and its probably the fact my english isnt my mother tongue that make me be very misunderstood.
As for MO.COM remark- I dont think I offended anyone MR.booster (please stop calling me MR.yuval guys ok? where I come from its rather offending-lol)
Besides that Mr booster, to base you assumption that I have some mental problam on something I wrote on an internet blog, is rather prosumptious. I dont really know you Booster,  I dont even know how old you are - and thouse facts lead me to the only reasonable conclusion that you dont know me as well. If you dont like the silly polls I posted on MO.COM - just leave them alone, you dont have to come up with your psycological assumptions everytime someone you dont know come up with a silly action.
I completely accept the opology request on this one though cuz it was done on a behaf of someone elses job, and I respect that.
Hope u all get me right now, especially you tommess, keep on the good work all.
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Posted: Mar. 10 2004, 19:21

Quote (Music @ the ancient language...,Mar. 11 2003, 21:08)
-The repetative 'ticking' sound you use at 1'05'' is quite distracting. Maybe it's due to the sound settings on my computer? Don't know. But anyway, when the melody comes in, I don't notice it anymore, so it isn't a big problem. :D

That's a hi-hat. It sounds quite distracting because it's unusually panned hard right, and away from the rest of the drum kit.

To Tommes: As a general rule it's best to keep the rhythm section in the middle of the stereo field. I agree with everyone else. The guitar sound is very authentic, as good as Brandon's on the Finale group project
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Posted: Oct. 04 2004, 14:41

Not only have you played this very well, you managed to do something else that’s equally as hard. You captured the ambiance of mikes music in all of your pieces.
Very well done
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