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The Feeling Project Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: Feb. 2001 Posted: Mar. 21 2001, 14:06 Well it looks like my first message was sent to the garbage bin. Anyways Korgscrew I noticed you know a shitload about mike oldfield and seem to be pretty damn experienced with electronics and guitars. Also you confuse the hell out of me every time I read one of your posts but that is good. I am asking for your help, I have learned for the most part, "muse" from the album "guitars" and am wondering what effects mike uses. I think he uses a ramirez classical but I have no clue about the effects. I figured it would just be easier to ask you about this than go searching elsewhere . I am thinking of geting a Lexicon MPX 100 or 500,do u have any comments on these? I saw Mike used a lexicon in Songs of distant earth. I love that sound in muse and appreciate any help you can give me Korgscrew. Thanks in Advance - Tfp Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: Mar. 21 2001, 16:07 Ha ha, a post addressed to me...this is a first I guess that means I'd better answer it The effects used on Muse are quite simple. we'll take a look at what's recorded there first though... What we have is two steel string guitars - one on the left and one on the right. They're playing similar things, but not exactly the same. I believe it may be a small bodied Martin acoustic guitar he used. Playing the same part twice can give interesting effects on its own - all sorts of odd frequcncy cancellations can happen, and you get this big shimmery sound (with acoustic guitars at least). The lead part is probably, as you say, his Ramirez. The effects are quite bare - most of the sound comes from the guitars and to some extent the way they're recorded. It sounds like there might be a slight chorus, or similar effect on the steel string guitars. What's maybe more important is the reverb he uses - he's got quite a long reverb time there and with quite a lot of treble. It gives it a big, floaty, expansive sound. One of the Lexicons would be very good for this - they offer a nice smooth sound, which is exactly what you want for this type of sound. They've had some very good reviews as well (and for good reason...). The Yamaha SPX series are very popular. That said, I didn't like the SPX90's reverbs when I used one in a live situation once. That was because they were too bright sounding; they may be exactly right for modern MO style things. I've come across other models of SPX in studios and they've seemed fine. You can also get some good plugins for computer recording software, if you like that sort of thing. Sometimes they're more handy, but a good sounding computer reverb may use up a lot of processing power. If you want to use the reverb live, a computer based one is of course not really the answer... If you can go to a shop and try out a lot of different ones next to each other, I would go and do that That way you can find something that's closest to being exactly what you want (I say closest to because the world is rarely perfect ). If you can't do this, I would say the Lexicon MPX 100 is a very good buy. Back to top

The Feeling Project Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: Feb. 2001 Posted: Mar. 22 2001, 00:11 Great thanks Korg, I just had a look at the lexicon mpx 500 tonight. The idiots at the guitar center took 35 minutes just to figure out how to hook it up and had another big problem trying to hook up the mpx 100 and they eventually gave up . anyways thanks for your help and the lexicon 500 had a preset pretty close to the muse sound, with a little adjustments i think it could be very very close. I dont think I want the msx 100 anymore. Oh yeah, you said it was actually two guitars playing, did u mean the lead or did you mean the lead and the background guitar. I always thought the lead was jsut one guitar with the effects. I also thought the lead was a classical nylon string guitar. Anyways I think the Lexicon msx 500 will be a great investment, thanks for your positive feedback about it. Oh do u like korg stuff and what would you recommend by korg. Thanks again - Tfp Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: Mar. 22 2001, 17:09 I mean there are two guitars in the background - have a listen closely and you'll hear there are times when the guitar on the left plays something slightly different from the one on the right...The lead is indeed a classical guitar. I do like Korg stuff...Some of their synthesisers have sounds I like a lot. They're not perfect, of course, but I like some of the bright glassy sounds that they can do. The Electribe series are quite fun, as is the Kaoss pad FX unit (although what you would use it for is maybe a different matter). Their guitar processors seem good too. Back to top

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