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Posted: June 30 2008, 05:37

Took this topic from another thread that myself and Alan started about this New Age multi-instrumenalist who has stated Mike Oldfield as one of his influences.

I do agree with you Alan about Medwyn producing so many albums, so quickly. I tend to think that artists sway from their musical direction because they direct much of their energy and time in producing then writing and recording.

Most of Medwyn's stuff is really good, but I have heard some songs not having the same energy as others.

Medicine Woman is one such album, 'Invocation' is such a wonderful song, but the rest of the album is not the greatest.

An album Medwyn did in 2006 was called 'Om' which is really good and he worked with Terry Oldfield in producing that one.


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Posted: June 30 2008, 05:55

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An album Medwyn did in 2006 was called 'Om' which is really good and he worked with Terry Oldfield in producing that one.

Yes, I agree - and surely the secret of its success lies in the collaboration with others (as well as Terry Oldfield), don't you think? It stopped MG from slipping into his usual regular patterns of musical thought.

On each album you can usually find one or two tracks that really capture the essence of something, and then the rest seem like filler. So you'd need maybe 10 albums to produce one really superb one - but then of course you'd never be able to achieve any unity of feeling. You could hardly juxtapose a track from 'Clan' against another from 'Moon Goddess', could you?

So where does Medwyn come closest to Oldfield, do you think? 'Millenium' would be my choice - there are bits of that, in among the uninspired filler, that sound very Oldfieldian, I think. There's even something that sounds quite like a saxotar! (That'll make people run away fast.)
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Posted: June 30 2008, 07:24

Quote (Alan D @ June 30 2008, 05:55)
Quote (ommadawn69 @ June 30 2008, 10:37)
An album Medwyn did in 2006 was called 'Om' which is really good and he worked with Terry Oldfield in producing that one.

Yes, I agree - and surely the secret of its success lies in the collaboration with others (as well as Terry Oldfield), don't you think? It stopped MG from slipping into his usual regular patterns of musical thought.

On each album you can usually find one or two tracks that really capture the essence of something, and then the rest seem like filler. So you'd need maybe 10 albums to produce one really superb one - but then of course you'd never be able to achieve any unity of feeling. You could hardly juxtapose a track from 'Clan' against another from 'Moon Goddess', could you?

So where does Medwyn come closest to Oldfield, do you think? 'Millenium' would be my choice - there are bits of that, in among the uninspired filler, that sound very Oldfieldian, I think. There's even something that sounds quite like a saxotar! (That'll make people run away fast.)

:D I laughed so hard when you mentioned the 'saxotar" I like to call it simply "Kenny" as in "Kenny G".  :D
I was not fond of that sax sound that Mike did on Tres Lunas, to me great songs, but the great feeling was lost when that sounds came on. I am glad it's not just me.

I really agree with you on what you said about MG's albums, if he could just focus on all the songs, then he would make one really great album. I like many of his songs, but they are spread out among his albums. So you have to buy an album and know your only going to get a couple of really good ones, one or two not bad, then the rest as "fillers".

He is a really talented musician, to me anyway, or we wouldn't have this thread going.

There are even a couple of songs I heard that sound like Moby's style as well, and I really like Moby.

I find with many New Age artists, like even Terry's stuff, has albums that have fillers on them, and only a few stand-out songs on them. I do find that new age artists are limited in their writing when it comes to new albums, I mean as in musical creativity. They really only play the same type of style of new age music, so many of thier albums sounds repetitive. I have basically all of Terry's stuff on cd, and I do find many of them to be sort of the same basis, just adding certain instruments here and there. But you really have to be into that sort of thing.
You sure couldn't work out while listening to Terry's Out of the Depths or MG's 'Where Angels Tread'.  :D


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Posted: June 30 2008, 13:56

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MG's 'Where Angels Tread'

And there is another classic example of what we're talking about. There are a couple of tracks on 'Where Angels Tread' that haunted me for weeks - months even; so very beautiful and serene, like floating on clouds. But as ever, the rest of the album is repetitive and predictable. (You know you're listening to one of the filler tracks when you can predict the notes that come next even when listening for the first time! )

Of course we have to be careful, don't we? This music isn't written with the intention that the listener is expected to be hanging on every note. It's mostly ambient, mood music, and in a way one could say that it fails to be what it's supposed to be if it attracts too much attention to itself. And yet there are passages of fine guitar playing in (for example) 'The Essence of Magic', and in 'Medicine Woman II', that always make sit up and take notice.
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Posted: June 30 2008, 22:03

Quote (Alan D @ June 30 2008, 13:56)
Quote (ommadawn69 @ June 30 2008, 12:24)
MG's 'Where Angels Tread'

And there is another classic example of what we're talking about. There are a couple of tracks on 'Where Angels Tread' that haunted me for weeks - months even; so very beautiful and serene, like floating on clouds. But as ever, the rest of the album is repetitive and predictable. (You know you're listening to one of the filler tracks when you can predict the notes that come next even when listening for the first time! )

Of course we have to be careful, don't we? This music isn't written with the intention that the listener is expected to be hanging on every note. It's mostly ambient, mood music, and in a way one could say that it fails to be what it's supposed to be if it attracts too much attention to itself. And yet there are passages of fine guitar playing in (for example) 'The Essence of Magic', and in 'Medicine Woman II', that always make sit up and take notice.

Yes, your right with those last two selections. Very good albums. :)

Now I have to see which albums I don't have and make sure I get them.  :D


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