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Posted: Aug. 15 2005, 14:16

Hey friends,
today I got a wonderfull present, my mom got back from work and there was another car right after hers, a Van. What vas inside? ohhhhh sweet thing :) and old vinyl player from Tesla (an old czech company which produced electronics in 80's and early 90's I believe, maybe still exists...). It is a vinyl player, cassete player, radio and amplifier in one. I must tell you that these old machines have some spirit to them and my mom knows I love these. So she got it from her work where they wanted to dump it.

Well I got it to my room and then I just had to find my old LP of Islands. You wouldn't believe how much spirit a real LP has. So I was in my room, and my mind is totally high from this experience even now. I'm totally out of myself it was a great relax and I must tell you if I play Islands (CD) on my system which I use for my music production (with HQ monitor speakers etc.) it just doesn't have that same spirit. Anyone else experienced something like me? I think it's mindblowing :)

have a nice day and sorry for a long post, if you spent your time reading my post then big thanks goes to you.

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Posted: Aug. 16 2005, 00:07

So Booster, even though you yourself rely on technical equipment to create your work, you also realise there is a spirit or emotion from the old style that has been lost in the translation. I wonder if this relates to what I have been trying to verbalise in the "Tracklisting released at MikeOldfield.de" thread with regards to Mikes new album and interview. Don't apologise for long posts, they aren't half as long as some of mine. It's all good.

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Posted: Aug. 16 2005, 03:04

I looove vinyl :) I returned from my holiday in Vienna with over 40 new LPs and maxis, including Crises, Boxed and Tubular Bells (original UK issue). But my favourite turned to be Bjork's Post -- pink vinyl which suddenly made me appreciate Isobel for the first time, I never liked the song and now it's suddenly beautiful.

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Posted: Aug. 16 2005, 09:01

If I could have my entire collection on vinyl, I really would - even though my "equipment" to play them isn't exactly stellar. I also like to play my albums as if they were LP's, with careful separation between the sides. I'm also trying to give an LP structure to the album I'm making right now. It's FUN!

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Posted: Aug. 16 2005, 16:03

hehe nice, I didn't think there's so many people who could understand to this kind of experience...great!

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Posted: Aug. 16 2005, 16:21

Quote (Sir Mustapha @ Aug. 16 2005, 09:01)
I'm also trying to give an LP structure to the album I'm making right now. It's FUN!

Can you add the constant frying-meat noise like in those vinyl pressings of "Hergest Ridge" ?

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Posted: Aug. 16 2005, 16:27

Quote (hiawatha @ Aug. 16 2005, 22:21)
Quote (Sir Mustapha @ Aug. 16 2005, 09:01)
I'm also trying to give an LP structure to the album I'm making right now. It's FUN!

Can you add the constant frying-meat noise like in those vinyl pressings of "Hergest Ridge" ?

try the izotope vinyl plugin for winamp it's free and sounds quite good :)

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Posted: Aug. 17 2005, 03:24

Quote (BOOsTER @ Aug. 16 2005, 21:03)
hehe nice, I didn't think there's so many people who could understand to this kind of experience...great!

actually there are a lot of people who do understand it, it's not been that long since vinyl disappeared... also, vinyl is still the format of choice for dance DJs... :)

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Posted: Aug. 17 2005, 05:10

Quote (Moz @ Aug. 17 2005, 09:24)
Quote (BOOsTER @ Aug. 16 2005, 21:03)
hehe nice, I didn't think there's so many people who could understand to this kind of experience...great!

actually there are a lot of people who do understand it, it's not been that long since vinyl disappeared... also, vinyl is still the format of choice for dance DJs... :)

I prefer CDJs for DJing...
and most of the DJs in my area do too :) if you have good ones with scratch plates you're pretty much set. and you don't have problems to find that part of the song on the vinyl .. i played with vinyls for some time too. Just look at the header of my webpage (shitty numarks there) :D


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Posted: Aug. 17 2005, 05:11

Quote (hiawatha @ Aug. 16 2005, 21:21)
Can you add the constant frying-meat noise like in those vinyl pressings of "Hergest Ridge" ?

Not only Hergest Ridge.

I've never understood this nostalgia about vinyl. After years and years of battling to get vinyl LPs to play opera without distorting the vocals; of sending back pressings (several times) until I got a good one, but sometimes just giving up trying; of taking out an LP I hadn't played for some time only to discover that even inside the sleeve it had accumulated enough dust to spit and pop irritatingly when I played it - after years of this, the day I ditched the whole bloomin' lot and fully embraced CDs instead was a wonderful day indeed.
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Posted: Aug. 17 2005, 05:33

I have to agree with Alan. We have a huge LP collection at our house, but the only time I ever play them is when we don't have that album on CD. Even more annoying than crackling and popping, changing the side every 20 minutes (I'm lazy, I know), accidentally storing them on an angle and worrying that they're bent, or struggling to handle them without touching the grooves and smudging them, even more annoying than all that, is the fact that our record player often produces very annoying feedback. It can't be the location, as it's been in about four different locations, connected to three different amps, and it's always done it. It drives me mad, especially as there's nothing I can do but turn it off and hope it goes away by itself. I'm not enough of an audiophile to appreciate any increase in sound quality that LPs may have.

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Posted: Aug. 17 2005, 05:49

I agre with Alan and Alex - early CDs sounded lousy and folks were right to hang onto their vinyl and proclaim it as "better", but modern CDs sound superb, even to audiophiles, so quite why anyone would want to hang onto old crackly vinyl, unless they are a DJ, baffles me somewhat.

I mean, yeah, the sleeves are nice and big, and there's something romantic about vinyl, but the sound quality factor is no longer an issue, to my mind.

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Posted: Aug. 17 2005, 06:01

Quote (familyjules @ Aug. 17 2005, 18:49)
I mean, yeah, the sleeves are nice and big, and there's something romantic about vinyl, but the sound quality factor is no longer an issue, to my mind.


That's why I wouldn't mind getting my LP copy of Crises, sticking it in a frame and hanging it on the wall. It's just the right size to make a fantastic picture. I could have a whole lot of albums up, all my favourite covers. I think that would be a fantastic way to decorate the house. Does anyone agree? Has anyone here actually done that?


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Posted: Aug. 17 2005, 06:04

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I think that would be a fantastic way to decorate the house. Does anyone agree? Has anyone here actually done that?

I agree, but there's no way I would be allowed to do it!   :laugh:

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Posted: Aug. 17 2005, 06:20

Is there a chance to see Light + Shade released on LP,like it happened to Kraftwerk's double live album?

Me guessing.


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Posted: Aug. 17 2005, 06:44

Quote (Tati The Sentinel @ Aug. 17 2005, 06:20)
Is there a chance to see Light + Shade released on LP

I wouldn't be surprised if it came out on a specialist audiophile pressing.

Of course, a double CD might equate to a 4 LP box set, so that may be pretty costly!

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Posted: Aug. 17 2005, 06:57

actually this thread was not about the soundquality but the romantic factor of the vinyls and it turned out pretty different lol  :D

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Posted: Aug. 17 2005, 07:26

Quote (BOOsTER @ Aug. 17 2005, 06:57)
actually this thread was not about the soundquality but the romantic factor of the vinyls and it turned out pretty different lol  :D

I dunno, I reintroduced the romance aspect just this morning!

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Posted: Aug. 17 2005, 07:44

Theres something so wonderfully cerimonial about playing a vinyl record. The nessessity of carefully removing it from the packaging, cleaning any surface dust that may be on it, waiting those few seconds for the turntable to come up to speed and then lowering that needle into the groove.

I'm a quite recent vinyl convert, but have already managed to build quite a collection. My 180 gram pressings of Dark Side Of The Moon and Automatic For The People, unquestionably, sound better than the CDs, even through my not especially expensive setup (1970s Quad 303 amp). I think that its the fact there's more involvement with the music that appeals to me as well. Theres something so much more impersonal about the little silver discs.

My biggest grumble so far is that my original pressing of Platinum is the worst sounding LP in my collection. Next purchase: record cleaning machine. Oh how my bank manager loves me.


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Posted: Aug. 17 2005, 08:55

I think I hardly have any problems with my LP's because "sounding better" doesn't always equal a better listening experience. Ah, well, I suppose I'm one of those folks who insists that the more perfect music is, the more boring it gets. Plus, for some reason, LP's have an absolutely unique kind of sound that CD's never achieved. There are certain albums I have that I just say "THIS one just needs to be listened on a vinyl record." Listening to Bowie's song "Beauty And The Beast" made me want to get a "Heroes" LP at once.

I've also tried Izotope Vinyl, but I don't like it anymore. I don't appreciate a program whose intent is to make sound "worse", giving all the flaws of a vinyl record but none of the advantages. It had some novelty value in the beginning, but I gave it up quite quickly.


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