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Delfín Group: Members Posts: 667 Joined: Nov. 2000 Posted: July 07 2004, 07:38 As some of you may know, Mike used on Incantations a composition technique in which the repetetive chord progression lets reversing the composition and creating another melody that has sense on itself. So, the trumpets at the A side and the flute at the beginning of the B side are the same melody, one reversed, one in the normal way. If you have a wave sound editor like Wavelab or Wave Studio you can reverse an audio file (possibly you'll need an encoder as well to convert from MP3 to wave) you can appreciate this, and it's really worthwhile, as you can hear how clearly the reversed trumpets play the flute on B side, or the flute plays the melody of the trumpets. I've also found out you can find incredible melodies if you reverse Taurus II from the guitar solo with the vocoders (a few minutes from teh beginning) to the bagpipe part. Has anybody done it yet? Have you found another track that's nice when reversing it? Please tell. Delfín>> -------------- The most precious thing I possess, is knowing the answer's yes Back to top

MusicallyInspired Group: Musicians Posts: 1445 Joined: June 2001 Posted: July 16 2004, 03:46 Slightly off-topic, but I've reversed the Diana, Luna, Lucina tune from Incan part 1 and it sounded interesting and made my own song out of it. http://smc.sq7.org/miscfile/brandon/saweet.mp3 I do that to a few tunes (and even to my own) and sometimes get astonishing results. Quite fun to just listen to backwards, too. -------------- BrandonBlume.com "The beauty in life is in the embracing of the variety of things. If all the world was blue there would be no colour blue." Back to top

Jammer Group: Members Posts: 643 Joined: April 2000 Posted: July 20 2004, 17:15 and I thought that chord progression was your own creation I'll have a go at reversing your track As for the Taurus II section that Delfin mentioned, I can't really spot a strong melody in there but it might be your own personal view of it Other tracks that sound good reversed? I can only think of Radiohead's 'Like Spinning Plates' which was really meant to be a complete melody backwards. They probably reversed it as it sounded too conventional and normal! Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: July 20 2004, 20:38 In fact, "Like Spinning Plates" is the chord progression of "I Will" played backwards. And Thom sang the reversed vocals, and then the recording was reversed to create the same effect from the midget on Twin Peaks and Lisa Simpson on Who Shot Mr. Burns. Pretty cool stuff, there. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Jim Glass Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: May 2003 Posted: Sep. 26 2004, 01:57 Query. On another thread someone said Mike stated on-air that TBI was Bach's Toccata and Fugue "inverted". I have found software which will "invert" MP3s...but you hear no difference, because all it does is swap ones and zeroes! Does anyone here know any s/w which can actually invert a melody, as if one turned the sheet music upside down and tried to play it? Thanks. Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Sep. 26 2004, 11:28 You'd have to do that with MIDI, actually. It's virtually impossible to "change" notes on a finished MP3. Maybe professional studio software can do similar things, but I don't believe personal software has that capability. With a MIDI file, you can do that with the right software quite easily, though. As far as I have heard, I don't think the Tubular Bells theme is the Fugue in D minor inverted, but it sounds like it. On the Fugue, the persistent note is a high D, and the "melody" happens on lower notes. On Tubular Bells, it's the opposite: the persistent note is an E, and the melody per se happens on higher keys. Also, the Tubular Bells theme is 15/4. I doubt the Fugue uses such an odd signature. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

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