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Alan D Offline




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Posted: Feb. 14 2007, 16:25

Earlier today (for reasons I won't elaborate on) I was under a lot of stress, and continued to feel very agitated even after the particular crisis had passed. I decided to carry out an experiment.

In case you're not familiar with measuring blood pressure, I should explain that it's expressed using two figures called systolic and diastolic pressure - so it looks like this: 136/79. It doesn't matter for present purposes what these represent. The only thing you need to know is that for long term good health in a human male (not sure if it's the same for women), the rule of thumb is that the first figure should be less than 140 for most of the time, and the second figure less than 90. 125/75 would be really good, for example. Blood pressure is increased by many things, but one of those things is stress.

OK - so this morning, feeling very agitated, I measured my blood pressure. It was 168/98 - far too high for someone who's already had one heart attack, and who would prefer not to have another. I sat quietly, eyes closed, using all the relaxation techniques I could muster, and paused every 5 minutes to measure my blood pressure. It went like this:
168/95
155/96
149/89

But it wouldn't go any lower.

So I put 'Ringscape' on repeat, visualised flying down the snow cavern, and measured my blood pressure at the end of every flight. It went like this:
138/88
132/84
125/86
132/83

Comfortably down into the safety zone again. Proof positive that Mike Oldfield is truly good for your health. Remember, you read it here first.
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Posted: Feb. 14 2007, 17:10

When you get excited, does your blood pressure go up? because I prefer to get excited when listening to Mikes music, but I'm glad to hear you so successfully averted another heart attack, and if you are gonna die of a heart attack, why not make Mike the last thing you hear, he he! Oh Sorry, Doctor Mike has done his job well.

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Posted: Feb. 14 2007, 18:02

Last year in October I had a virosis that took me about 2 weeks to recover from it and what did help was listening to Mike's music on my ipod while I was on my bed and trying to forget the pain and all the bad things related to it.It did help me to recover fast from it,and made the whole difference to me.That virosis was caused because I was under stress from university and the pression to be successful on all the subjects I was studying past semester.

When I'm feeling stressed,I always play Mike's music to relax,and it does work :)


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Posted: Feb. 14 2007, 18:35

actually Alan, I  have a state of the medical art, blood pressure gauge and this morning whilst feeling particularly vexed , I tried out your theory, only I tried it to the backdrop of Love Missile F1 11 80's Sputmix megamix by Sigue Sigue Sputnik, and in all honesty after having a near death thrombo, I still felt totally zaned.

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Posted: Feb. 14 2007, 18:36

Quote (TubularBelle @ Feb. 14 2007, 22:10)
When you get excited, does your blood pressure go up?

Yes it does. That's no bad thing in itself, generally, because the rise is short-lived. The problem arises when persistent stress leads to persistently high blood pressure, even when you're sitting quietly.

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because I prefer to get excited when listening to Mikes music

Well I don't think Amarok would have had quite the effect I was seeking, in this instance! My choice of Ringscape was very deliberate!
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Posted: Feb. 14 2007, 18:41

Quote (The Big BellEnd @ Feb. 14 2007, 23:35)
actually Alan, I  have a state of the medical art, blood pressure gauge and this morning whilst feeling particularly vexed , I tried out your theory, only I tried it to the backdrop of Love Missile F1 11 80's Sputmix megamix by Sigue Sigue Sputnik, and in all honesty after having a near death thrombo, I still felt totally zaned.

Did the megamix come with a health warning?

Try a cup of cocoa and a good night's sleep, and you'll be as right as rain in the morning.
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Posted: Feb. 14 2007, 18:51

I would agree that Mike's music is good for your health. On many occasions and at significant times in my life it has been there and has helped me face the world - sounds a bit dramatic that, but it's true. His music effects emotions (well it does for me ) and as a result of this makes me feel physically better. I think it slows you down inside, stops the rush. Especially the first three TB, O & HR. However, I don't know now if after thirty years of listening, it's so familiar to me that it forms a kind of meditating process, a pattern of relaxation. Maybe it is a little more than just the music itself. I suppose that when the new album comes out that could prove it, none of us have heard it before, but then Light and Shade is recent and I really can't say I put that on a lot for relaxation. I like it, but for different reasons.

Keep listening though, you have evidence it works and I really hope you continue to feel better Alan. Everything else can wait, just hear the music. Sound is a powerful force in our lives.

@ Tati, hope you're OK now too, (you must be coz you've seen Mike in concert!!;) stress can appear out of nowhere and manifest itself in all sorts of ways. Don't work too hard.

I find 'time' stressful, having to be somewhere at a certain time drives me nuts. I hate being tied and constantly watching the clock. I could quite happily get rid of all clocks and live by the sun & moon!

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Posted: Feb. 16 2007, 07:45

Quote (bee @ Feb. 14 2007, 23:51)
I find 'time' stressful, having to be somewhere at a certain time drives me nuts. I hate being tied and constantly watching the clock. I could quite happily get rid of all clocks and live by the sun & moon!

Oh, I would love that sort of a world, just watching time fly by reminds me of how nearer the deadline for my Coursework/Homework is...I always have to work by the clock. I feel like the guy in Cast Away, one of my all-time favourite films.

Anyway, Mike is definitely good for my health. Whenever I'm feeling incredibly stressed, Mike's music totally taps into my feelings, whatever they may be. For Example, when I'm feeling burning anger, TB3 is great, because there are some explosive tracks on there, mainly Outcast. Hergest Ridge is also great whenever I'm feeling crowded or feel a need to be alone, it makes me feel like I'm at peace, and I'm alone in a paradisial land that I know is real. And whenever my life takes a chaotic turn, pieces like Ommadawn, Amarok and Crises really tap into the mixture that I feel inside.

I think it's just knowing that there is something that can feel the pain I feel, and that it can be shared in a peaceful and personal way is rather comforting. Mike's music is definitely my own form of personal relaxation. If Mike's unavailable, I have to turn to Carnival of the Animals by Saints-Saens, or maybe some Mozart.

P.S. I've just found out this is my 250th Post on tubular.net. I just thought I'd mark the occasion! To me, that is a milestone.


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Posted: Feb. 16 2007, 13:06

Alan--here, if the diastolic remains in the mid-80's and the systolic above 140, it would be considered "borderline" high and monitored carefully. I was just looking at the American Heart Association guidelines and they seem to be more stringent. My docs have always been happy for under 140. My systolic hovers in the 120's and 130's and I thought that was wonderful. Diastolic hovers in the 60's and 70's. http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=2112

A few years ago I thought I was having a heart attack and ended up having a stress test. Interesting experience--they imaged my heart before and after the test. I was shocked at how high my BP was while running on the treadmill during it--had always had this perception that working out lowered it (which it does, in the long run, just not apparently while doing). The physician said that was normal and asked, "Do you always push yourself so hard?" I replied, "Usually much worse." When the test was over, he told me (practically verbatim), "Congratulations. Your heart is going to last longer than most people's because you take such good care of it." So...I can have ten types of cancer and Alzheimer's, but my heart will remain strong.  :/   What my chest pain really was: I had managed to pull the muscles in my upper chest, while rushing around doing too much stuff at once. Funny thing is, he said that I ran longer during the test than 95% of those taking it. I'm thinking that the other folks probably don't work out on a regular basis or they're over 90 or something--who knows.... But--I still take what he said with a grain of salt, because I think that you can add so much stress to your life that it can undo all the good benefits of working out or eating properly. Sometimes the more gently I try to live, the worse it all gets.

Regarding Mike's music, I tend not to relax with, rather am usually in motion--working out, driving, gardening, mowing, or cleaning (though actually, weird as it sounds, I find all of those activities relaxing). When I am running and feeling like I'm overdoing it or it's a bit too warm, I find that switching to Tres Lunas is very calming. I've mentioned over the years how Incantations hastened my recovery from mononucleosis. I meditate in silence. Perhaps, though, the next time I'm superstressed, I should take time, put on Inc IV or TL and breathe deeply (but not the gathering gloom). :)


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Posted: Feb. 16 2007, 18:23

Quote (Inkanta @ Feb. 16 2007, 18:06)
Alan--here, if the diastolic remains in the mid-80's and the systolic above 140, it would be considered "borderline" high and monitored carefully.

Yes, of course it's not a very precise science. Blood pressure vairies a lot during the course of a day, tending to be higher mornings and evenings, and lower in the middle of the day. So for example, here's a set of measurements I took a few days ago, when I'd decided to monitor it quite closely (because I'd juggled the medication around a bit):

09.00  134/83
11.30  126/77
13.30  116/66
15.00  121/74
22.00  135/84
23.00  142/88
So you see, if someone asks me what my blood pressure is, it's not very easy to say!
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