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Tubular Freddie Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: Oct. 14 2005, 21:41 Hello all out there! Does anyone know if Mike ever has played the main drums himself on a track ? On "Crises" I know he´s playing Simmonds drums on the first half. Thanks in advance Cheers, Fredrik       -------------- "Going on means going far. Going far means returning " Dao Te Ching Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1767 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Oct. 15 2005, 05:08 To my knowledge he'd never played a proper kit on of his albums (excpetion for Crises then?). He's played the Bodhran though. It's usually these departments where he needs outside help - wind instruments and drums. Lately Mike's samplers has been doing all the work. :-( A drummer is also exactly what Mike needs IMO. Simon Philips input on Discovery was great. Imagine that album with stiff boom-krasch machine drums from the Fairlight instead of Simon's precise but inspired playing. Wouldn't have been the same thing. Lars T -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

Tubular Freddie Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: Oct. 15 2005, 19:53 Quote (larstangmark @ Oct. 15 2005, 05:08) To my knowledge he'd never played a proper kit on of his albums (excpetion for Crises then?). He's played the Bodhran though. It's usually these departments where he needs outside help - wind instruments and drums. Lately Mike's samplers has been doing all the work. :-( A drummer is also exactly what Mike needs IMO. Simon Philips input on Discovery was great. Imagine that album with stiff boom-krasch machine drums from the Fairlight instead of Simon's precise but inspired playing. Wouldn't have been the same thing. Lars T Thanks. Yes, Mike has played varoius percussion instruments during the years, such as Timpani, Syndrums, Claptrap, African drums ( on QE2 album) and Vibraphone, Marimba, bodhran, and glockenspiel, plus Tubular Bells on others. So if he can handle that, in my opinion - he probably could handle drums as well. -------------- "Going on means going far. Going far means returning " Dao Te Ching Back to top

qjamesfloyd Group: Members Posts: 1357 Joined: April 2001 Posted: Oct. 16 2005, 03:10 There is no doubt Mike can play drums, but not to a confident standard for his albums, and when Simon Phillips was around, there would be no contest.But, i really don't have a problem with Mike using a drum machine, to me when people go on about him using a drum machine instead of a real drummer, it's yet another example of people being picky, i'm sure when people make there own music at home, and don't have real drums, they would use a machine!!!. Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1767 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Oct. 16 2005, 05:44 I have nothing against drum machines generally, but I'm sure Mike could afford to have the genuine article. But if you like acoustic drums or not is a matter of taste of course. Lars T -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

raven4x4x Group: Members Posts: 1535 Joined: Jan. 2002 Posted: Oct. 16 2005, 06:21 Well, I would certainly prefer a good drummer over a machine every day. I'm not saying that drum machines necessarily sound bad, and I can see there might be reasons why a very regular, repeated drum pattern may be wanted, but a drummer like Simon Phillips can add an awful lot to an album (Crises, for example). -------------- Thank-you for helping us help you help us all. Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1767 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Oct. 16 2005, 09:01 If you ask me, what Mike needs is a new "groop"! Lars T -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1548 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: Oct. 16 2005, 10:07 That's just what I thought. Well and if he doesn't want a group anymore maybe he could still collaborate with a drummer. That would have turned L&S from a nice album into a very good album. (imagine Resolution being played on real drums! ooohh!! ) On the other hand, would he have used real drums on Distant Earth, then that would not have been a very good choice!   -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

qjamesfloyd Group: Members Posts: 1357 Joined: April 2001 Posted: Oct. 16 2005, 10:20 Yeah and if had used real drums on L+S, then people would then go on about using real singers, or real this and real that, Mike choose not to use them, and you have to respect it, you don't have to agree with it, but you must respect it. Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1548 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: Oct. 16 2005, 10:25 oh, certainly I do! these were just some thoughts -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1767 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Oct. 16 2005, 14:15 Quote (qjamesfloyd @ Oct. 16 2005, 10:20) Yeah and if had used real drums on L+S, then people would then go on about using real singers, or real this and real that, Mike choose not to use them, and you have to respect it, you don't have to agree with it, but you must respect it. First of all, it's not of my business if Mike uses a drum machine or a real drummer. It's not my decision - so I don't see the how it would matter if I respect Mike's decision or not. What do you mean with "respect" anyway?   Lars T -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

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