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nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4770 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: Feb. 24 2009, 06:11 I've argued on many occasions here that even Mike's most joyous music is tinged with sadness. It occurred to me that one piece of truly happy music, with nothing loss-connoting at all, is to be found in the "QE2" piece itself. I'm talking about the bouncing, jaunty section that starts at about 4 minutes 30 seconds. A more wistful melody is introduced at around 5.16, but in my opinion the melody I'm talking about expresses pure happiness. Can anyone think of any other examples? Back to top

wiga Group: Members Posts: 2113 Joined: Sep. 2008 Posted: Feb. 24 2009, 06:41 Oh heck, I'm going to have to get QE2 out now to check your "times". -------------- Barn's burnt down - now I can see the moon. Back to top

The Caveman Group: Members Posts: 2178 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: Feb. 24 2009, 07:14 I can only think of Celt at the moment.That absolultely joyous solo.   Really good point.Most of his peices do have some emotional 'wrench' to them.  Bits of Ommadawn have a joyous quality.Especially side one.I'm specifically thinking of the section that starts with recorders and ends with the banjo and guitars and all manner of other stuff going into the harp theme and then into the really life affirming guitar solo.After that it goes into the decending guitar run at which point the 'impending doom' feeling takes over. -------------- THE COMING OF THE GREAT WHITE HANDKERCHEIF IS NIGH. Back to top

CuNimb Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: July 2003 Posted: Feb. 24 2009, 07:25 Aurora Borealis from Music of the Spheres always strikes me as being very upbeat. -------------- Happy? ha ha ha.... Back to top

yanouch65 Group: Members Posts: 680 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: Feb. 24 2009, 09:29 A topic about our Mike....at last! Thank you -------------- Ray said : "it is a shame you don't play" manintherain said: "You´d better ask Mr. Y who was first" yanouch65 says: "I am in love with Scotland" Back to top

CuNimb Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: July 2003 Posted: Feb. 24 2009, 11:37 Quote (yanouch65 @ Feb. 24 2009, 09:29) A topic about our Mike....at last! Thank you Who's Mike?   -------------- Happy? ha ha ha.... Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1767 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Feb. 24 2009, 11:46 The end of Hergest Ridge part 1! -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

Scatterplot Group: Members Posts: 1981 Joined: Dec. 2007 Posted: Feb. 24 2009, 14:29 I'll tell ya, On Horseback is a happy diddy but it sure evokes a tear when I hear it. A celebration of the innocent love of animals(all pets really not just big brown beasties with big brown faces). There is foreshadowing in there too.....the Branson space project. I sure would rather be on horseback than sucking back Xanax and wearing a Depends on that rollercoaster to the twilight zone. -------------- We raise our voices in the night Crying to heaven And will our voices be heard Or will they break Like the wind Back to top

Ray Group: Members Posts: 857 Joined: Jan. 2000 Posted: Feb. 24 2009, 15:37 Quote (CuNimb @ Feb. 24 2009, 16:37) Quote (yanouch65 @ Feb. 24 2009, 09:29) A topic about our Mike....at last! Thank you Who's Mike?   Who is CuNimb? Probably - Cumulo Nimbus Millibar Cumulo Nimbus Millibar is a distant relative of Climbing Climbing, a well known pilot of small aircraft.  Her brother - Holdyour Heading moved to Norway when he was just a nipper and has been living there ever since.  He now has a daughter called Lostin.   Lostin married a large Norwegian farmer called Ivar Staticeighteen and they also have friend who also listens to Mike Oldfield called Finest Out. Rumour has it that they all met somewhere but I cant work out exactly where - does anyone know - Yannich??? You are from the French part of Norway - do you know.  (:)) R Sorry sitting on a tropical island drinking Rum.  I tried Rum and Coke and Whiskey and Coke.  Same effect - i'll have to stop drinking that Coke.... -------------- Looking out over the harbour in Peel....... Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4770 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: Feb. 24 2009, 20:20 Quote (The Caveman @ Feb. 24 2009, 07:14) I can only think of Celt at the moment.That absolultely joyous solo. Yes, but that solo does have such a soaring, "too good for this wicked world" feel that there's still a bit of a wrench - for me, anyway. Back to top

Dirk Star Group: Members Posts: 1331 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: Feb. 25 2009, 09:55 I have to say this is a much more difficult question than I maybe first considered.One thing I`ve always loved about Mike`s music,is that he is`nt scared of expressing happiness and joy within his music.Where as a lot of modern composers,certainly within a popular field would probably deem it too uncool I suppose.But yeah the only tracks I could really think of that are`nt tinged with some kind of feeling of loss or yearning I guess.Were things like Sailors Hornpipe and Cook`s Tune etc...Yeah the non Mike Oldfield compositions I know. Anyway that then got me thinking about other composers who are renowned or at least known to have wrote the odd "happy" piece of music here and there.And I thought yeah Paul McCartney there you go.The Mr thumbs aloft happy go lucky loveable moptop himself.And the first song that springs into my head is that cheery old bouncy singalong Your Mother Should Know..."Blimey",I thought.. "It`s not just Mike then"...Sub conscious personal taste I guess!? Obviously people are going to have their own personal take on Mike`s music and how it makes them feel.The same composition can make us feel different at different times and instances of course.That said I have to agree with Nightspore here up to now...45 seconds of QE2..Man that`s quite some feat over four decades of making music.Quite some feat indeed. Back to top

Incantations2085 Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: Aug. 2002 Posted: Feb. 25 2009, 16:55 a lot of examples here in this topic! truly happy music can be found in the end of tubular bells part 1 exposed edit,in the end of ommadawn part 2,i think sunset is a happy track from l&s and turtle island from 3s lunas! -------------- Reaching through the dark, do you have to go?? Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4770 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: Feb. 25 2009, 18:03 I think the yardstick of happiness in pop music has to be "Walking on Sunshine", which, whatever you think of it, has absolutely no feeling of loss, or an emotional wrench whatsoever! Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Feb. 25 2009, 20:27 Sigur Rós has been dabbling with some music that seems to reach the very core of joy, to the point where they have turned rain into the World's Best Thing -- see Hoppípolla, which is pretty much the essence of childhood distilled in song. Even though it's a purely joyful song, it's still quite layered and untrivial. The lyrics talk about slamming nose-first into a wall, getting a nose bleed, getting up and going on as if nothing happened. Hard to top that. In Mike's catalogue, there's an absolute gem, however: the title track from Heaven's Open. It's a quintessentially happy song, both if you take it at face value, AND if you take the entire context into consideration. Happy and cynicism are beautifully married in that one. I adore it. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

bob Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: Dec. 2008 Posted: Feb. 26 2009, 04:56 Heavens Open is in my opinion Mikes best song its a shame that the rest of the album is so poor The solo in Celt is magnificent,one of his best    Bob Back to top

The Caveman Group: Members Posts: 2178 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: Feb. 26 2009, 07:47 The bit in Taurus 2 with Maggie singing about half way through before the build up leading to the end.Can't think of any way to describe it in words.Sounds very happy to me. The end of Amorok is the same.What i really love is the solo's Mike puts at the end of his longer works.They are usually very emotionally charged but still have that soaring quality which,for me,is his strongest point.I can't think of another player who does this so well. -------------- THE COMING OF THE GREAT WHITE HANDKERCHEIF IS NIGH. Back to top

bevy Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: Nov. 2002 Posted: Feb. 26 2009, 09:06 It has got to be the The Sailor's Hornpipe from boxed! Well it makes me happy as it reminds me of a few wild and drunken nights/next days   I had in my youth. Back to top

wiga Group: Members Posts: 2113 Joined: Sep. 2008 Posted: Feb. 26 2009, 12:30 Quote (nightspore @ Feb. 24 2009, 06:11) I've argued on many occasions here that even Mike's most joyous music is tinged with sadness. It occurred to me that one piece of truly happy music, with nothing loss-connoting at all, is to be found in the "QE2" piece itself. I'm talking about the bouncing, jaunty section that starts at about 4 minutes 30 seconds. A more wistful melody is introduced at around 5.16, but in my opinion the melody I'm talking about expresses pure happiness. Can anyone think of any other examples? Yes I see what you mean with "QE2" at 4.30 - it has a lightness of spirit and purity -  jolly too. That moment is pretty hard to beat actually, and like you say I don't think it happens very often. If it's lightness and relative neutrality I want, I generally play either the Platinum album or QE2. "Wonderful Land" - coming in at around 1.48 also feels happy in that pure form. Amarok's "Sondela" and "Maggie" too. -------------- Barn's burnt down - now I can see the moon. Back to top

Scatterplot Group: Members Posts: 1981 Joined: Dec. 2007 Posted: Feb. 26 2009, 12:40 I'd have to add "The Lake". Although it has some sad sounding incredibly well executed git parts it seems all-in-all an uplifting, climactic, kind of LOTR sounding affair. -------------- We raise our voices in the night Crying to heaven And will our voices be heard Or will they break Like the wind Back to top

Harmono Group: Members Posts: 759 Joined: May 2005 Posted: Feb. 26 2009, 17:00 Out Of Mind! And Celt, yey, it's fun. Once I gave my walkman to a guy that had never heard the track before and after less than a minute he jumped off the street to a pile of snow. He was happy. Also I have to say that even the more dramatic works that are  not meant to express happiness do make me feel at home. Back to top

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