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Matt Group: Admins Posts: 1186 Joined: Nov. 2002 Posted: April 03 2007, 12:22 The recent thread about someone trying to sell a till receipt got me thinking. I am usually much more interested in Mikes music than in his personal life and generally don't approve of his personal life being delved into. One difficulty with Mike however is that his personal situation and state of mind often seem to drive his music. He is also sometimes quite open about his life ("Changeling" for instance) whilst at other times seeming to want to keep it all closed. I do find I get confused about my own views on this. Should I be interested in his personal life to help my understanding of his music or keep well clear to leave him his privacy. Where should the line be drawn... -------------- "I say I say I say I say, what's got three bottles and five eyes and no legs and two wheels" Back to top

Tubularman Group: Awaiting Authorisation Posts: 2304 Joined: June 2004 Posted: April 03 2007, 13:03 hmm interesting thought... I don't involve his life in his music. Well let me use "Ommadawn" in my exampel. Just read here what he means about the climax part of Ommadawn; "It scared me to death when I did it. When I did that electric guitar, I found it really frightening. I couldn't sleep." We knwo that he had peronally problems in this period. Alot of fears ect.. But i don't see this when i listen. I rather see my own feelings and pictures i have in mind. I never think this is Mike's fear on guitar. Either hes personally life is very important. But of course im curious. I listen to his music everyday!! All his theories about mediations ect.. how to relax ect.. In simple; how to live better and how to fight against fears and problems. They are interesting thought i had much in my life and  when mike speaks about them i understand. So they makes me interested. But when we speak about hes wife, kids, and things paraparazzi people want to know, im not in that club All things that is very privat we have no right to know. But he likes (seems like) to talk about what he was in that time, all teh fears ect... It belongs to past so it is not very private and dont belong to the today life. He seems to like to help other people with fears and depression. Like he said; hes fears and depression had a name! Hah! i have a name on it!!! All those details about that subject makes me feel that he want to share and give this ideas to others too. He speaks alot about it indeed.   But it is his music we love, of course is hes life interesting, but not his private. Only hes things around music, maybe some hobbies he talks about beacuse many of us have them too, and things he have in lyrics we know he do. I know he loves the spanish people and i do indeed. That makes me feel closer to Mike in some way. Because when he speaks about it i know what he talks about. Also songs like Mount Teidi (teide) and the concert in Edinburgh (i have been on those 2 places) makes me feel Mike when i was there. But not personally... I never feel his private life when i listen to his music. I feel hes fantasy world, and that is why am his fan It is pure enjoyable and lovely and crazy... -------------- Mike Oldfield M i x e s https://soundcloud.com/tubularman Back to top

onion Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: July 2005 Posted: April 03 2007, 15:55 I couldn´t care less about MO´s private parts   I have never been in that group that swallows whatever the sleezepapers write about celebrity's private life. If you want information about, paris, britney, wacko-jacko or whatever....DON`T ask me   One thing about MO ´s private life I do find interesting is the paradox which also exist with other really great unique artists (masterminds)...apparently the paradox is, that the more troubled their minds and life is, the bigger and greater is their expression in various artforms. Apparently there is a thin line between a genius and a "madman". Beethoven was not normal Van Gogh was not normal Leonardi di Vinci was not normal and the genius that gave the world "Tubular Bells" is not normal. On a personal level, I feel sorry for their troubled lifes but for the world it is a great benefit. Their agony is the worlds gold chest. Mike -------------- Are soft boiled eggs supposed to make a crunchy noise when you eat them? Back to top

manintherain Group: Members. Posts: 546 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: April 03 2007, 16:10 So we can look forward to another exceptional recording. Sorry Michael! Back to top

ImAFoolAndImLaughing Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: April 03 2007, 17:39 Hang on, Mike - most of us ain't "normal" (thank gawd! ) - we all sit at different points along the mental spectrum, don't we? After all, we all have different ways of thinking, different opinions, different ways of looking at things - it's just that to a majority of people some of these ways of looking at the world are more "normal" than others. Perhaps that's the reason why they say that there's a fine line between genius and madness - A perspective on life that some see as completely stark-raving doollally-bonkers, others see as fresh, and imaginative: gems dug up from the depths of the soul, even if you have to be prepared to dig around in some truly dark places to find such gems... Beethoven, Da Vinci, Mike Oldfield : Visionaries all. -------------- "I was in this prematurely air conditioned supermarket and there were these bathing caps you could buy that had these kind of Fourth of July plumes on them that were red and yellow and blue and I wasn't tempted to buy one but I was reminded of the fact that I had been avoiding the beach." Back to top

Iksion Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: Sep. 2006 Posted: April 04 2007, 02:51 Evryone are crazy(on there own way atleast )   Im realy dont interested in Mikes private life and all of thet stuff.. I just respect him because of things thet he done , and the amazing music thet he created. Because thet music playes a big part in my life..   Mikes world only he can understund,its not on us to try to discover it... Its like you try to take hes soul. I mean thet is something what makes Mike a Mike Oldfield -------------- Im crazy old man, Im dressed in red, I drink sky like honey, enough i have said. Back to top

Clodomir Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: Mar. 2006 Posted: April 04 2007, 16:13 Quote (Matt @ April 03 2007, 12:22) I do find I get confused about my own views on this. Should I be interested in his personal life to help my understanding of his music or keep well clear to leave him his privacy. Where should the line be drawn... I suppose it depends on how you want to listen to his music. You can just enjoy the music by itself (as I do) or you can also want to understand the evolution of his music and career (as I also do), which means some "why" questions. In most of his book "A Man and his Music", Sean Moraghan explores Mike's life and problems (such as panic attacks etc.) as a way to explain his music or at least why he made music... For example, the simple fact that he went through a therapy in 1978 is intersting if you want to know "why" his music and attitude (concerts, interviews...) changed so much after that... Most of what is known about Mike's private life (his parents, wives, separations, troubles) comes from Mike's interviews, so I don't feel as an offence to his privacy to be interested in such informations (except for the few events such as the Amy Lauer/Emma Roph story that we learned about through english tabloids). The strong link I see between his personal life and his music is Mike's instability : he often changed of life, house, instruments etc. but to my eyes it is the same instability that drove him to often change his music and never make an album which would sound like another one... Nicolas www.mike-oldfield.net -------------- Mike Oldfield - Blog d'une passion http://www.mike-oldfield.net Back to top

Sydslittlebiscuit Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: April 2005 Posted: July 22 2007, 18:25 I think Mike's mental state obviously has had a huge impact on his art, the reason why he is so good at what he does is because he is foucused on such an instense level. Having had panic attacks myself/early 20's breakdown, I can understand him turning inside out, in order to channel his thoughts and emotions in a positive way, otherwise you end up banging your head on a brick wall, and end up on self distruct. Also if you feel the odd one out, you will turn inwards on yourself as you feel like you can't relate to anyone on the outside world, nobody understands, so I am not suprised that he is as intense as he is in his music but finds 'normality' hard to handle. I am not suprised he has had a lot of relationship failures. Such a shame that he has to experience pain on such a deep lonely level, for us all only to enjoy - seems a strange parallel universe. But on a positive note some of us that have experienced the same kind of pain can relate to him, so maybe he isnt quite as lonely as what he thinks.... the hard part is sifting out the ones who are genuine... -------------- the word became flesh..... http://www.flickr.com/photos/sindysparkles/ Back to top

Silver Negus Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: Nov. 07 2007, 11:20 Quote (Matt @ April 03 2007, 12:22) The recent thread about someone trying to sell a till receipt got me thinking. I am usually much more interested in Mikes music than in his personal life and generally don't approve of his personal life being delved into. One difficulty with Mike however is that his personal situation and state of mind often seem to drive his music. He is also sometimes quite open about his life ("Changeling" for instance) whilst at other times seeming to want to keep it all closed. I do find I get confused about my own views on this. Should I be interested in his personal life to help my understanding of his music or keep well clear to leave him his privacy. Where should the line be drawn... Unlike the media, I guess nobody is interested in his private life. However, like every normal human being we learn and  have an opinion. Or somebody's actions or behaviour might raise questions. - People are human, and I bet even Mr Oldfield is human enough to raise questions and have personal opinions.  As long as we do not pre-judge. Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: Nov. 07 2007, 18:32 In the case of his relationships,the media wasn't so friendly regarding the subject about a few years ago,now he has learned the lesson and when he wants to,he speaks about it,in a clever way. -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

TubularBelle Group: Members Posts: 1487 Joined: April 2004 Posted: Nov. 07 2007, 23:36 I am very interested in Mikes personal life, both for curiosity reasons and because I believe it strongly affects his music. Do I have a stronger attraction to Ommadawn for example because of what he was experiencing at the time, well no, not really, but it is certainly pretty darn obvious that the unhappier he is, the better his music, and while I would not wish that onto anyone, it does make me more interested in knowing the state of his mind. I don't need to read the tabloids though, Mike gives out enough information of his own free will to keep my curiostiy satisfied and I would never believe it unless it came out of his own mouth, because even the most well meaning, trying to be factually correct reporters can get it wrong. Tracy. -------------- I hate getting up early. I didn't even realise there were two 6 o'clocks in one day! Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Nov. 09 2007, 18:04 I'm wondering how far we should be delving into Mike's private life. First and foremost I enjoy Mike's music, but having read about his private life I can see how it has had an impact on his music. I wonder without Mike's personal life would there ever have been a Tubular Bells or Ommadawn??? I think if it's something Mike has chosen to make public then that's fine, but where say it's a bitter ex girlfriend gone to the press then I have no wish to know.   Speaking as someone who has suffered with depression,anxiety and stress, I can appreciate where Mike is coming from. Yes I can understand him channelling his emotions in a positive way into his music.  However whenever I play Tubular Bells I hate to think that I'm gaining pleasure from his pain.   I'm just interested in the workings of the human mind.  I do feel that it needs sufferers of mental health conditions to speak up and challenge the negative stereotypes. -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

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