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captainjjb Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: April 19 2006, 00:18 Ebay is showing a George Lowden LSE 2 for sale which "was used on the world premier of Tubular Bells 2 in Edinburgh in 1992 and the subsequent tour" I suppose it was inevitable that a guitar or two from the recent sale would end up on Ebay, although it seems a bit of a shame.  I thought Chandlers handled the recent sale pretty well, the prices were not unreasonable bearing in mind some of the historical pieces that went up for sale.  I hope the ebay winner buys to play rather than as a piece of memorabilia.  The signed document is the same as mine (I bought the Ramirez from Chandlers) so I guess is from the recent sale. Maybe Mike will buy it back after all! Here is the guitar: The Ebay Lowden from TB2 It's currently at £200.00 (reserve not met). Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: April 19 2006, 07:12 There are some pics of this guitar,including the certificate in here: http://p200server.us.es/mikeoldfield/verfoto.asp?id=3530 http://p200server.us.es/mikeoldfield/verfoto.asp?id=3531 http://p200server.us.es/mikeoldfield/verfoto.asp?id=3538 http://p200server.us.es/mikeoldfield/verfoto.asp?id=3537 Mike playing it - http://p200server.us.es/mikeoldfield/verfoto.asp?id=3540 -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

qjamesfloyd Group: Members Posts: 1357 Joined: April 2001 Posted: April 19 2006, 08:13 Why is it a reluctant sale, as surley he has only just bought it? Back to top

Ray Group: Members Posts: 857 Joined: Jan. 2000 Posted: April 19 2006, 16:37 Reluctant bollocks - profit it is says I!! -------------- Looking out over the harbour in Peel....... Back to top

Wayfarer Group: Members Posts: 308 Joined: June 2002 Posted: April 19 2006, 19:50 Oh, well... I think that the seller is a fan that has bought it thinking on keeping it but now needs urgently the money... Why I'm saying this? Well, item has been marked as 'Will arrange for local pickup only (no postage)' That basically means... 1)  ...that the item is only available to eBay UK... If the guy would really want to make real money, he could have made the item available worldwide: I'm sure several japanese or US fans have enough money... 2) ...that the guy wants to meet personally the buyer and get sure that is a real fan and that the Lowden is in the right hands. Well, maybe I'm too confident in the goodwillness of the mankind -- Wayfarer -------------- My homepage - www.thewayfarer.info My search - www.cannotbefound.com My community - www.taurusiv.net My luthier - www.artluthier.com Back to top

captainjjb Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: April 20 2006, 00:15 I would agree with Wayfarers comments about the local pickup requirements,  This is hardly conducive to a maximising profits on Ebay - although I wonder whether this is naivety from the seller or a lack of confidence in shipping it around the country via couriers.  It certainly does put major restrictions on the sale.   I hope whoever buys it plays it.  This was something Chandlers kept hinting at, that Mike wanted the guitars to be played (possibly with the exception of the TB Telecaster). Back to top

Ray Group: Members Posts: 857 Joined: Jan. 2000 Posted: April 20 2006, 17:46 Nooooo . I have bought plent of thinkg local pick up by having my own courier pick things up, even from the US - I think this is a ploy to save having to organise shipping from someone who has sold over 300 items on ebay - so this guy is not naieve!!! -------------- Looking out over the harbour in Peel....... Back to top

captainjjb Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: April 20 2006, 18:17 Was that Klingon Ray? Back to top

Wayfarer Group: Members Posts: 308 Joined: June 2002 Posted: April 23 2006, 17:25 £760.00 now... (around 1000 €) and still reserve not met... How much can be the reserve price for this gem? ;-) -- Wayfarer -------------- My homepage - www.thewayfarer.info My search - www.cannotbefound.com My community - www.taurusiv.net My luthier - www.artluthier.com Back to top

captainjjb Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: April 23 2006, 18:21 how much did Chandlers want for it?  £1500.00?  Someone else has suggested around £2500.00.   The seller is right to put a high price on reserve. Back to top

yanouch65 Group: Members Posts: 680 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: April 24 2006, 13:49 Hi there! I don't know how much Chandler would for it, but the auction has ended and.......nobody has bought this guitar, because the reserve price was higher.   -------------- Ray said : "it is a shame you don't play" manintherain said: "You´d better ask Mr. Y who was first" yanouch65 says: "I am in love with Scotland" Back to top

MountTeide Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: April 2006 Posted: April 24 2006, 14:13 The auction has finish before time. The seller must to know why, I don´t.   Back to top

Ray Group: Members Posts: 857 Joined: Jan. 2000 Posted: April 24 2006, 15:18 He told me that he would not give out his reserve price as he wanted to get the most out of the Auction. What the hell is the point of that. He also said  "like all my auctions I am going to let it run to get the most out of it". Shame but if people were upfront with the reserve price it would save alot of wasted time.  I would have bid but I couldnt be bothered going in blind and faffing about. Chandlers - I Suspect it was about £2000, but buying from Chandlers is a big difference from buying from an ebayer I would suggest.  Also the certificate from Mr Oldfiled will have the first Buyers Name on it - this all reduces the value.  So the likely hood of getting more that anyone paid at chandlers is low I would imagine. PS Anyone want to buy a Les Paul Junior TV Special HA!  Sorry Auction Ended     -------------- Looking out over the harbour in Peel....... Back to top

yanouch65 Group: Members Posts: 680 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: April 25 2006, 03:48 Quote (Ray @ April 24 2006, 15:18) I Suspect it was about £2000, but buying from Chandlers is a big difference from buying from an ebayer I would suggest.   Hi Ray I speak French and I am not sure to understand these sentence. Could you explain it to me? Does it mean that buying from Chandlers is less expansive than buying from an ebayer ?! Thank you Regards -------------- Ray said : "it is a shame you don't play" manintherain said: "You´d better ask Mr. Y who was first" yanouch65 says: "I am in love with Scotland" Back to top

captainjjb Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: April 25 2006, 06:30 Eh?  Ebay says "The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer available for sale." The auction wasn't supposed to finish until next week!  I feel sure there would be the usual last minute buyers with realistic offers.  I guess he must have sold it outside ebay for what he wanted for it. Back to top

Ray Group: Members Posts: 857 Joined: Jan. 2000 Posted: April 25 2006, 12:19 Sorry about the bad english - it,s just code to prevent educated people understanding what I write.  Most of which is using a hand held blueberry which does not easily let you review and edit. I mean that I (and others) would probably pay more to Chandlers than to an ebay seller, partly because the certificate given by Mike names the original personj who bought it from Chandlers and partly ebay is always slightly more risky than dealing with a reputable shop. Also - I made enquiry to get a price of the guy as I would have offered for it and he was adamant he would not tell me the reserve as he wanted to realise the best bid.  The way to do that on ebay is not to pull the item before the end of the sale but to set a very high reserve and let it run.  then contact the highest bidder to re-offer. if you pull the item early you may be missing out on the best bids.  Anyway I suspect it was pulled as it didnt look like it was getting good bids or he decided not to sell. I would have bid in the last 10 minutes. Ray -------------- Looking out over the harbour in Peel....... Back to top

Ray Group: Members Posts: 857 Joined: Jan. 2000 Posted: April 25 2006, 12:20 Quote (yanouch65 @ April 25 2006, 08:48) Quote (Ray @ April 24 2006, 15:18) I Suspect it was about £2000, but buying from Chandlers is a big difference from buying from an ebayer I would suggest.   Hi Ray I speak French and I am not sure to understand these sentence. Could you explain it to me? Does it mean that buying from Chandlers is less expansive than buying from an ebayer ?! Thank you Regards Sorry - no just less risky -------------- Looking out over the harbour in Peel....... Back to top

MountTeide Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: April 2006 Posted: April 25 2006, 12:56 I agree with you Ray, even i was thinking to  give a phone call to Chandlers, for any information about the guitar before make a real Bid. My English is horrible too. Back to top

yanouch65 Group: Members Posts: 680 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: April 25 2006, 15:36 Hi Ray, Thank you very much for your explanations I agree with you.... Regards from Switzerland -------------- Ray said : "it is a shame you don't play" manintherain said: "You´d better ask Mr. Y who was first" yanouch65 says: "I am in love with Scotland" Back to top

Ray Group: Members Posts: 857 Joined: Jan. 2000 Posted: April 25 2006, 17:49 No problem - Nice Avtar you have there!!!! Ray -------------- Looking out over the harbour in Peel....... Back to top

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