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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 03:32

Just wondering, which MO albums can you usually find in your local music stores? Any ones that you can't always find? Any ones that you always keep seeing? Well, over here the only albums that I've seen are OTB, QE2, Heaven's Open, TBII, TBIII, MB, TB2003 and also the Essential and Elements single CD compilation albums.

Now here's the ranting part, the local Tower Records, which stock a few copies of QE2, Heaven's Open and TB2003 are basically ripping off their customers with their outrageous prices. One of Tower Records's direct competitor is the CD division of a large chain of book stores, the prices are already 10% lower than Tower Records and they also give out a further 10% discount if you have a member card. Problem is, only the recently opened stores have the better stock. Older stores basically have the shorter end of the stick.

Now why am I ranting? An original album costs RM40.50 through Popular Book Store (after discount), but it costs RM48.90 at Tower Records (US$1=RM3.77 for reference). Despite the difference in the exchange rates, original albums still tend to be considered to be expensive here. The local people aren't convinced to get the original versions, and pirated versions float around almost everywhere. Now if you can find pirated MO CDs here, that'd be a miracle in itself. DVDs are another matter, I'm not sure about that. And for reference, a pirated CD may go for as low as RM5 per disc. The government says they're bringing down the pirates and their syndicate, but apparently it isn't working too well. In fact, last year there were calls for a ceiling price to be implemented on original CDs so that it would be more affortable for people to buy (think RM30-RM35), but it was scrapped and instead stores and record labels were suggested holding discounts at sales for selected times for selected items (can anyone say stock-cleaning?). And just recently, the Recording Industry of Malaysia even suggested having a 0.5% levy on all CD-Rs. Gah, I'm somewhat frustrated at everything that's been going on. :|

Sorry about the long rant though, I just needed to get it off my chest. Anyways, you can either reply to the questions at the top of this post or respond to my rant or even both. Do as you wish. :)


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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 03:42

try Amazon !! ;)
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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 03:46

Quote (Deadcalm @ Dec. 09 2005, 03:42)
try Amazon !! ;)

There are at times when I wished I had a credit card, or at least had access to one. ;)


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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 03:53

I find that unless you visit the bigger branches of record stores, all you find is Tubular bells, Tubular bells 2003 and the best of Tubular bells. :/

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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 03:58

Responding to your question - given up trawling around in my local music shops,as there's very little variety of  M.O cd/albums to be found.
Only always see the standard few,of all the albums he's produced.Recently I did go into one small record shop & found something other than TB, OTT , Essential M.O, L+S  It was Crisis cd,in the bargain section - that's not funny,and I'm not laughing :/
Don't know your location,just wondering if this is a widespread thing,or if they are just denying M.O music around here(Essex UK).

Just before entering this post,noticed Deadcalms suggestion to buy from Amazon. It is possible to find lots of M.O this way,and from various other sources including ebay but,if you can't pay by credit card what are you supposed to do? There should be availability in high street shops.
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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 04:21

Quote (Groovy Granny @ Dec. 09 2005, 03:58)
Responding to your question - given up trawling around in my local music shops,as there's very little variety of  M.O cd/albums to be found.
Only always see the standard few,of all the albums he's produced.Recently I did go into one small record shop & found something other than TB, OTT , Essential M.O, L+S  It was Crisis cd,in the bargain section - that's not funny,and I'm not laughing :/
Don't know your location,just wondering if this is a widespread thing,or if they are just denying M.O music around here(Essex UK).

Just before entering this post,noticed Deadcalms suggestion to buy from Amazon. It is possible to find lots of M.O this way,and from various other sources including ebay but,if you can't pay by credit card what are you supposed to do? There should be availability in high street shops.

Crises in a bargain bin?!?!? These people just don't know... :(

I'm in Georgetown which is a city in Penang, Malaysia (far indeed! :p ), but there might be a few shops left that I haven't searched yet. And the quest for MO's CDs continues!


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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 04:49

Well I'm as far away from you,as you to me then :p  :laugh:

Even the local Megastores here don't have much different and that really surprised me.Think I'm going to speak to one of the managers & ask some questions,or see if one of the other smaller shops will play some M.O music - that would be good :)
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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 05:00

Ive always found HMV and Virgin Megastores in The UK
have fairly good Stocks.. Remember some of these Albums
are 70s 80s so other outlets are hardly likely to Stock
these .... HMV are quite a good source of MO Bargains
if you get in early at Sale Time.. ive seen them put copies
of Virgin HD CDinto the Bargain £4-99 racks lots of Times
Just dont get stung buying the Disky version !!  Not sure
if those are remastered thats all !! ;)
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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 05:30

Well in my local Virgin Megastore they had hardly anything much in the way of M.O cd's & same with HMV last time of looking - now definately going to speak with managers, I feel so cheated  :/

@Andylkl know how it is( not being able to find things in shops) - hope you have some luck very soon :D
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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 05:48

Yeah, thanks Groovy Granny! Hope you get Mike's tunes right there in Virgin and HMV's stores!  :D

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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 07:36

Quote (Groovy Granny @ Dec. 09 2005, 10:30)
Well in my local Virgin Megastore they had hardly anything much in the way of M.O cd's & same with HMV last time of looking - now definately going to speak with managers, I feel so cheated  

@Andylkl know how it is( not being able to find things in shops) - hope you have some luck very soon

There's a HMV shop in Luton, usually has Tubular Bells, TB2, TB3 and TB2003, and recently one copy of L&S  sometimes if your'e lucky a compilation album of Mike's music, have on occaision seen Ommadawn in there. I recently found The Killing Fields in there too       :).
About a year ago I was in HMV in Oxford Street, had some time to kill before an appointment, and needed a present at the last minute. As I was in there I thought I would go in and buy a CD copy of Hergest Ridge to replace a worn out casette I'd been given. No copies of Hergest Ridge, but ended up coming out with Amarok instead.

[QUOTE]  Deadcalm   Posted on Dec. 09 2005, 10:00Ive always found HMV and Virgin Megastores in The UK
have fairly good Stocks.. Remember some of these Albums
are 70s 80s so other outlets are hardly likely to Stock
these .... HMV are quite a good source of MO Bargains
if you get in early at Sale Time.. ive seen them put copies
of Virgin HD CDinto the Bargain £4-99 racks lots of Times
Just dont get stung buying the Disky version !!  Not sure
if those are remastered thats all !!

I did buy copies of Ommadawn and Five Miles out online, only to find out these were the Disky reissues.  I paid UK£6.99 for Ommadawn, and did later find it in MVC for UK£5.99, for the Virgin HDCD issue, also picked up Tubular Bells for the same price  there    :) , must've been a sale on.

Speaking of HMV and Virgin Megastores I found on a recent visit to Reading both stores had virtually ALL the back catalogue of Mike's CD's, about the only one I couldn't find was Crisies, apart from in a 3CD box set with FMO and QE2 .  Maybe in Reading the citizens are more appreciative of their town's most famous musical son :) .
Now I've said that they'll be a massive influx of Mike's fans to Reading in orded to complete their CD collections :laugh:.

I do find HMV is especially good in the sale for Pink Floyd CDs, I bought Ummagumma for £11.99, down from £30.99
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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 08:14

Quote (Andylkl @ Dec. 09 2005, 03:32)
the Recording Industry of Malaysia even suggested having a 0.5% levy on all CD-Rs. Gah, I'm somewhat frustrated at everything that's been going on. :|

If you remember to call this tax a tax instead of a "levy", it makes it sound more serious.

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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 09:34

A similar problem that I am finding to the original posters is in trying to buy music online. I have yet to find a legitimate seller that offers what I want (buy mp3 of a selection of tracks at a reasonable price). They either have websites that don't work with my setup (firefox, NAT router etc. etc.), want to sell me some machine specific wma file or claim to be legitimate but aren't (allofmp3.com comes up quite often when I search. I have yet to buy from them as I don't believe any of my money will go to the artist).

Why are they surprised when people swap songs (no - I don't) and copy CD's (no - I don't do that either) when the manufacurers don't provide an easily accessible, working, reasonably priced alternative.

My son likes the song Dido - Life to Rent. I have bought the album (copy protected) and tried twice to purchase the title track by download and failed (but ended up paying £1 each time) but it didn't work properly either time and I still can't put the track on a compilation CD I was trying to make for him. Found out lots more about how to crack protected CDs in the process however!

Now I read in the news they want to jail - yes JAIL - anyone found putting lyrics on-line - see following link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm

If they want to avoid good honest people breaking copyright, they should provide the materials that people want in an reasonable and available legal way!

End of rant

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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 14:56

My problem with buying MP3's, even from legal sites, is that it is a lossy format, and you are actually paying for an inferior copy of the track you download. Surely they could offer the music in .FLAC or .AVI format instead? Longer download times yes, but you get the music with nothing corrupted.
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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 15:22

For cloth-eared nincompoops like myself, the lossy-ness is not noticable with the typical good MP3.

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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 16:24

Quote (hiawatha @ Dec. 09 2005, 15:22)
For cloth-eared nincompoops like myself, the lossy-ness is not noticable with the typical good MP3.

But the only good mp3s are the ones from 190 to 320Kbps, or so I believe. There's sometimes when I just can't accept 128Kbps. Lossless formats aren't as popular as lossy mp3s, unfortunately. :/

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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 16:26

Quote (Deadcalm @ Dec. 09 2005, 05:00)
Just dont get stung buying the Disky version !!  

This is something i've never understood... This Disky label is something to trust? The quality sound is diferent from the original releases?
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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 17:10

As far as I can hear the sound is the same.
Disky is a Dutch label that has rereleased quite a few old albums, some times not with the original cover and most of the time with a very cheap booklet.
Even Virgin didn't treat Mike Oldfield like that...


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Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 20:07

I always go to the same few stores that I know stock MO, in Adelaide we have the Muses which always has the biggest selection I've seen, at least a dozen different titles, then there is BIG STAR who specialise in artists who were big in the 70's and JBS HI FI which have massive stocks and always have at least half a dozen titles but everywhere else, I only ever see TB, and any of the variations or sequels and Elements, the single cd, sometimes the Essential, mostly the compilations.

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Posted: Dec. 13 2005, 03:11

Ah... Can't believe I forgot to mention this. I saw the CD version of Exposed at Tower Records. Price was close to RM100 and there was a crack/scratch on the plastic album cover. For that same price I could've got two MO albums and the OTB.  :(

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