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Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Jan. 07 2008, 15:31 At the very start of "Mike's reel", after the mandolin strum and the first whistle note, Mike O. says something - maybe "Play it". I think it's a goof. Here in The Complete Mike Oldfield Reference Guide there's a list of M.O. mistakes, and they're all worth checking out as IMHO they're all very funny. But this one in "Mike's reel" is not mentioned. And another goof which is not mentioned anywhere is by Yitkin Seow, the Chinese (?) pianist on TBII Edimburgh. When he starts his piano line on "Sentinel", he goes very fast and has to be timed back in by the drummer's hi-hat. Can anyone find any more goofs in any of Mike O.'s output [including live recordings and boots, of course] ? -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: Jan. 07 2008, 15:58 Its tempting to list a lot of Mike's musical career since leaving Virgin under the words 'goofs' and 'oopses' but then again that would be a bit uncharitable   Seriously though Ugo you'd have to make a very very long list if you were going to include all the live performances, including the bootlegs going around - there's bum notes aplenty, Mike's not the most comfortable live performer. Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Jan. 07 2008, 18:04 @ Toby: sure, I know all-too-well that Mike O. is not one of the most self-confident live performers - he always seems to have his mind very clear on one concept, i.e. a stage is not a studio. As for 'bum notes' etc., okay, don't make a long list, but won't you please quote at least some of those? I have some in my mind, but as I am lazy I prefer to leave that task to others... -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: Jan. 07 2008, 20:31 Last concert of Nokia Night of the Proms 2006 in Frankfurt: before Mike started to play the guitar solo on TB,while he exchaging his bass to the PRS Custom,he unplugged his guitar by accident(the wires were mixed with his feet),and lost his timing.He later got into his part,the crowd applaused a lot,but you could clearly notice he had lost his concentration. I almost cried while witnessing this...and the effect appeared on the beginning of Ommadawn,when he sitted down a bit to concentrate again.By Shadow on The Wall,he was very very funny and played a few jokes,but behind everything,Mike wasn't feeling fine at the end of the NNOTP tour(people who attended the Hiawatha II Fan meeting knows what I'm talking about) ! -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Jan. 08 2008, 16:42 Very good, Tati... referring to your account, obviously, not to Mike O.'s performance. As the ancient mathematicians would say... Q.E.D. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

3Wheeler Group: Members Posts: 828 Joined: Aug. 2007 Posted: Jan. 10 2008, 04:35 Goofs and such are what makes going to Concert a unique experience.... Mostly Misunderstandings between players technicals etc... Getting the Lyrics wrong etc... At least u know youre hearing the Real thing then !! -------------- We're Flying Aeroflot, We've Got Reservations. Back to top

Blue Dolphin Group: Members Posts: 1232 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: Jan. 15 2008, 16:14 I think I've discussed this before in the forum, but I always thought that the beginning of "Mike's Reel" is David Bedford (with 'hit it' ). But then again, I don't know what year "Mike's Reel" is from. Wasn't it on a Voyager single? So that'll be around 1996, and I guess Mike wasn't working with Bedford anymore. I know another goof that isn't mentioned: you can hear Mike (or it could be somebody else) sniffing like he has a bad cold at the end of "Don Alfonso", with the guitar solo. -------------- -The mark of a good musician is to play one note and mean it- Mike Oldfield - 1980 Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Jan. 15 2008, 17:20 @ Blue Dolphin: Sure, M'sR came out in 1996, but I don't have any info about when it was recorded... it may well be a never-before- released leftover from the early 1970s. Richard/Korgscrew, if you're reading this, do you know anything more? About Mike's sniffing... well, I'm pretty sure I've already mentioned this before, but there's plenty of sniffing on TB (1973). It's really quite loud during the quiet acoustic solo in the section named "Latin" on TB 2003. But I'm unsure about this being a goof, because I remember some people here complaining about TB 2003 being 'cold' or 'aseptic' because it missed that sniffing. So maybe it may be better defined as one of the merits of TB (1973), rather than a defect of it... -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1767 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Jan. 16 2008, 02:47 Pltchnm! -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Jan. 16 2008, 09:41 Quote (larstangmark @ Jan. 16 2008, 08:47) Pltchnm! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... Very nice one, Lars. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Chicular Group: Members Posts: 240 Joined: Sep. 2004 Posted: Jan. 16 2008, 10:50 I've heard two versions of Summit Day played live and Mike makes mistakes on his classical guitar on both versions.  It definitely must be a concentration thing as Summit Day is a very easy piece to play.  Apart from that i haven't heard any cringeworthy fluffs from live performances Back to top

Blue Dolphin Group: Members Posts: 1232 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: Jan. 16 2008, 14:45 @ Ugo: The sniffing in Tubular Bells is just the breathing of Mike Oldfield, huffing and puffing because he had so little time. (I would be doing that too if I had a week to record something) This happens frequently if you record a guitar player, so sometimes it's unavoidable. But the sniffing on Don Alfonso is different. It's accidently recorded and sounds more like a 'somebody having a cold' sniff, rather than a sniff of somebody being exhausted. There, that was a lot of talking about sniffing -------------- -The mark of a good musician is to play one note and mean it- Mike Oldfield - 1980 Back to top

timshen Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: Mar. 2001 Posted: Jan. 28 2008, 03:28 What about Mike clearing his throat in "On Horseback" just before the kids come it (I think) - that's always baffled me. Did Mike deliberately put it there or what? -------------- Expect Great Things. Attempt Great Things. Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Jan. 28 2008, 08:00 @ timshen: if you refer to the "Hmm!" at the end of Mike's second-to-last spoken line, that's definitely deliberate. It's even written in the lyrics! Another goof: at 11:56 of Hergest Ridge Part II there is an isolated click from the nutcracker percussive part, which, in the original mix, starts some seconds later. The nutcracker was removed from the remix, but the click at 11:56 is still there! -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

The Caveman Group: Members Posts: 2178 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: Feb. 13 2008, 08:06 Picture the scene.Knebworth Festival....probably the largest crowd he'd played to at that point.Sits down to play Ommadawn with Classical guitar.Everythings going fine untill.....damnit!Fluffed note. I think he fluffed the same note on Montreaux as well.It doesn't help that good,pro quality classicals such as Mike's Ramarez that he used on both appearances,lack any kind of marking on the face of the fingerboard to help with player orientation.  Also from Knebworth,the duet between the Clarinet and guitar.OMG how bad?I don't know if it was the guitar or the clarinet (one suspects the latter)but something is out of tune.You can see the clarinetist wince.BTW who is the clarinetist/flautist/saxophonist at Knebworth?Any ideas. -------------- THE COMING OF THE GREAT WHITE HANDKERCHEIF IS NIGH. Back to top

The Thin Man Group: Members Posts: 151 Joined: May 2002 Posted: Feb. 13 2008, 15:00 Pete Acock.  Can't add any more than that though. Back to top

The Caveman Group: Members Posts: 2178 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: Feb. 14 2008, 03:16 Thanks Thin Man.He looks a bit like a younger Ben Elton. -------------- THE COMING OF THE GREAT WHITE HANDKERCHEIF IS NIGH. Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Feb. 15 2008, 04:57 Quote (Blue Dolphin @ Jan. 16 2008, 18:45) @ Ugo: The sniffing in Tubular Bells is just the breathing of Mike Oldfield, huffing and puffing because he had so little time. (I would be doing that too if I had a week to record something) This happens frequently if you record a guitar player, so sometimes it's unavoidable. But the sniffing on Don Alfonso is different. It's accidently recorded and sounds more like a 'somebody having a cold' sniff, rather than a sniff of somebody being exhausted. There, that was a lot of talking about sniffing That's something not to be sniffed at   .   I've put Tubular Bells on to see if I can hear Mike huffing and puffing, can't say I've ever noticed it myself, but then again I think the sniffing adds to the organic feel of the album, something I find lacking with TB2003. -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

The Caveman Group: Members Posts: 2178 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: Feb. 15 2008, 05:40 The odd thing about this is Mike has actually mentioned the breathing and sniffing thing as a virtue and indicative of the organic feel of the peice.And then leaves it off TB2003. To me it conjures a wonderful mental picture of a painfully young and haunted man hunched over an acoustic guitar putting everything into every note,which is exactly how music should be.Let's face it,1 week to do a peice as complex as TB part 1?Before the advent of usable synths?No sequencers?In a fragile enough headspace before he even started?I think we're lucky to have anything at all,with or without sniffing. -------------- THE COMING OF THE GREAT WHITE HANDKERCHEIF IS NIGH. Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Feb. 16 2008, 17:39 Quote (moonchildhippy @ Feb. 15 2008, 08:57) That's something not to be sniffed at   .   I've put Tubular Bells on to see if I can hear Mike huffing and puffing, can't say I've ever noticed it myself, but then again I think the sniffing adds to the organic feel of the album, something I find lacking with TB2003. I spoke to my boyfriend on the phone as I was playing Tubular Bells, and he thinks I play TB too much, it's nearly always playing as I'm on the phone to him.  Don't get me wrong he's a most fantastic guy and would do anything for me   , and he loves Tubular Bells, well much of Mike's music, but nearly everytime I speak to him on the phone Tubular Bells is usually playing.   That said going back a few weeks we were engaging in an activity something to do with pistons cylinders and Ommagasms, and I let him play Crises, don't get me wrong I love Crises, but I just hate Jon Andersons voice,IN High Places spoils the album for me somewhat. I'm  surprised that didn't put me off the task in hand. -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

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