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Question: Mozart :: Total Votes:19 Poll choices Votes Statistics As good as Mike Oldfield or better 11  [57.89%] Not as good as Mike, but great 5  [26.32%] I just don't really get him 3  [15.79%] Guests cannot vote

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hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: Aug. 31 2006, 13:56 I recently went to a Mozart concert recently, perhaps my most immersive experience in Amadeus' music ever.  None of it really made an impression on me (in one ear and out the other), and I came away from the concert with the comment "It was played well...". I do love other classical composers, and their melodies. I figured I'd place this poll to see what the other Oldfield listeners thought. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

amazarak Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Aug. 31 2006, 14:25 But what would You think about this music If You were told that he composed it when he was 4 years old? This is yet another sensless discussion. The only measure is wether You like the music or not, and nothing else matters Well, maybe the amount of contribution that was made by the composer to the art of music is considerable too, but I'm not adequatly educated int the history of music to judge. When listening to classical music, the quality of the performance is very important. I know that, my brother is a violinist My answer - Mozart is better than Oldfield, because he lived several hundred years ago, yet people still listen to his music. What will be with Mike - only time will tell. Cheerz amazarak -------------- Just hold your heading true Got to get your finest out Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: Aug. 31 2006, 14:39 If you think it is senseless, then why did you even read and post in it????  I'm not trying to win anyone over. I'm just asking what others think. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Aug. 31 2006, 16:21 Like you, Hiawatha, I don't really get him. But I'm quite certain that he is one of the very greatest composers, because of the way in which devotees of his music speak of their experiences. What they're describing is clearly great music - it's just that I can hardly ever see it for myself. Just occasionally I do - for instance, there's an aria in Don Giovanni ('Or Sai Chi L'onore' ) which is one of those pieces that takes you somewhere beyond the power of words to describe - but mostly, I just can't stay very interested for long enough. Many years ago, as a passionate Wagner enthusiast, I had many conversations with a couple of people older than I was, who promised that as I grew older, I'd begin to appreciate the quieter, more delicate music of Mozart, and that Wagner would come to seem like excessive romanticism. It hasn't happened yet, and I don't believe it will. The loss of course is entirely mine. It's a bit dismaying to realise that I'm incapable of appreciating what is clearly some of the finest music ever written, but there doesn't seem to be much I can do about it. If people are listening to Mike Oldfield's music in 200 years' time, then I'd say he'll have done fantastically well. To be honest, I doubt if they will. But a significant number of people will still be listening to Mozart. Back to top

Trinidad Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Sep. 04 2006, 06:42 It's just the same for me. I bought a pair of Mozart CDs to hear something different, and after some minutes I just forgot I was listening it. Though I don't know about music, I'd say he's better than Mike, but, for now, I'm unable to get it. Back to top

SoimSandheaver Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: May 2006 Posted: Sep. 04 2006, 11:51 Given that Mozart was one of the first composers I listened to (the first being Gustav Holst), his music will always hold a special place in my heart. His music is quite simply legendary, and to know he wrote some of his pieces as a child is amazing. I might be so bold as to say Mike Oldfield is his modern equivalent. He just totally opened everybody's eyes as to what was possible as he managed to open a new stage in music's evolution with an experience that nobody has managed to match for 33 years. So, I'd say they are both as good as each other. I can't say that either one was better than the other. They are both in the same League for me. -------------- "Three blokes go into a pub, one of them's a little bit stupid, then the whole scene unfolds, with a tedious inevitability." Back to top

Jeremy Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Sep. 04 2006, 17:08 Writing about music is like dancing about architecture ! To make comparisons I find even more impossible. -------------- How can they NOT like my music! Back to top

Harmono Group: Members Posts: 759 Joined: May 2005 Posted: Sep. 04 2006, 18:52 Mozart to is background music to me. He was certainly a great pianist but his music ecxept for Requiem is very "light" and conventional when conpared to later greats such as Beethoven, Sibelius, Grieg and others(who mostly admired him) from the romantic era, not to mention some guys from the 20th century. I stil do agree with Alan with the fact that there are many conductors and players that respect Mozart very much, wich could mean(since they know what thay talk about) that there propably is more stuf to understand. Back to top

Guru Meditation Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: May 2003 Posted: Nov. 06 2006, 16:58 I am another one who finds great percent of Mozart's compositions ordinary, superficial, tiring. And even those that I do like I don't find that great as his biggest admirers say. Mozart lovers are speaking in detail about virtues of his music but I simply can't see any of them being so much emphasised even in his best works. Back to top

Ray Group: Members Posts: 857 Joined: Jan. 2000 Posted: Nov. 07 2006, 17:11 Mozart and Oldfield comparison by a music specialist (Not Me - i'm just typing) Both inovative Both exceptionally talented Both had long hair (ok that one was mine) Both have inate idea of what sounds sound good Motzarts music was different - exceptional at the time, no one wrote anything like it at the time.  Oldfiled to many is the same as this - exceptional at the time, no one wrote anything like it. Motzart was a perfectionist, Oldfield is probably one too - at least from what i've read/heard seen. Mozart was multi instrumental, although he didnt play all the instruments he wrote music for them.  Oldfield does the same although does try to play lots of things himself (Try!! Ahem....). Mozart was buried in a pauper grave in vienna - alegedly poisoned.  I'm not sure Mr Oldfield will be so unlucky. Mozart was married to constanza and didnt have any other wives. Motzart died when he was 33. Mozart taught Beethoven - I need to see if Mike will give me a guitar lesson!! I thinkn Mike is not really like Mozart, as Mozart was an extrovert and Mr Oldfield is an introvert. However, I do believe that Oldfield will be being listened to in 100 years.  More than say Cliff Richard for example ( I could name a load of others too) Interesting topic.   Ray   -------------- Looking out over the harbour in Peel....... Back to top

Ray Group: Members Posts: 857 Joined: Jan. 2000 Posted: Nov. 07 2006, 17:12 Oops forgot to vote - as good as or better. -------------- Looking out over the harbour in Peel....... Back to top

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