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maria Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: July 2002 Posted: July 10 2005, 17:05 the thing is musicvr.com has been down for several days now. i can see some possible reasons: first, mike felt like instantly shutting it up and did it without a notice. this one seems unlikely to me because it's true that it's not so busy as some other sites like tubular.net, but it's been softly alive during this year. games have been taking place in a more or less regular basis, so it now contains a big lot of precious information filed.. i can't stand thinking that it all could have been lost in a void !! it may also be a server's failure and they haven't realized yet. or the third, they are working on it. this is the one i prefer to be honest.. any other ideas? anyone around knows what's really happening? i wish they haven't decided to close it...   -------------- ...morning and evening i'm flying, i'm dreaming... Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: July 11 2005, 19:55 Send an email to Fanny Oldfield...it should work   -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

Trinidad Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: July 12 2005, 05:37 Quote (maria @ July 10 2005, 23:05) mike felt like instantly shutting it up and did it without a notice. Nooo, pleeaase!! I cannot see any reason for him doing it, at least not without any notice. Anyway, what happened with the other forum he had? Did he throw it away without any explanation? Back to top

maria Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: July 2002 Posted: July 12 2005, 17:43 he closed the other forums but there was a notice. i still hope we'll get a response one day or another. yes tati, u are right. an email to fanny should work, she used to answer when there was a question. i think she's usually been there, distantly caring for the site. but this time the site's still unavailable and there has been no answer yet. maybe they are just too busy right now with the new album coming out soon and didn't realized musicvr domain should be renewed? -------------- ...morning and evening i'm flying, i'm dreaming... Back to top

EeToN Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: Sep. 2001 Posted: July 12 2005, 18:17 Quote (maria @ July 12 2005, 23:43) maybe they are just too busy right now with the new album coming out soon Or are they having a summer holiday maybe? -------------- If I were music, I would be Enigmatism. Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: July 13 2005, 08:44 Quote (maria @ July 12 2005, 17:43) maybe they are just too busy right now with the new album coming out soon and didn't realized musicvr domain should be renewed? "Michael Oldfield" still holds the musicvr.com domain registration well into 2006. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

maria Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: July 2002 Posted: July 17 2005, 03:50 it was just a little joke..  anyway, thanks for the info hiawatha today, i still wonder what's happening not only with musicvr.com..  now also oldfield.info has been unavailable for a couple of days. -------------- ...morning and evening i'm flying, i'm dreaming... Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: July 17 2005, 09:54 I had a chuckle over the renewal lapse concept and was reminded of a cautionary tale. A couple years back, a theatre group in Illinois forgot to renew their domain and it was bought by a porno company who offered to sell it back to them at a very high cost. The theatre group, the [city] Players, opted to change domain names. Anyone innocently visiting the group's former site after the snafoo would have found a much different bunch of players.  The Players' tale of woe inspired one of my organizations to renew its domain very early. -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: July 17 2005, 19:07 Quote (maria @ July 17 2005, 02:50) today, i still wonder what's happening not only with musicvr.com..  now also oldfield.info has been unavailable for a couple of days. Hi Maria, No one has heard from anyone at mvr, but I can pass on some info re: oldfield.info. I caught up with Tim today and he doesn't have time to post but said it was fine to pass this along. So..... He is starting a different position and the server housing oldfield.info is at the other job site. It may take him several days to get there to see what happened. At any rate, he knows that it's been down for a few days, is concerned, and looks forward to being able to troubleshoot it. His email is connected to that server as well, so that's why, if anyone has tried to get in touch, he's been incommunicado. -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

maria Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: July 2002 Posted: July 18 2005, 01:39 hi inkanta, it's been so kind from u to find out and let us know, thank u at least now we know that lots of beautiful pics and interesting topics about mvr are still safe in oldfield.info. good luck and my best wishes for tim in his new position from here. we know he's been doing a hard job in caring for his site and it's perfectly reasonable that sometimes life out there needs all our time and effort. tim, please don't feel in a hurry and take your time to settle in your new job. whenever u needed it, u know we'd be willing to help in whatever we could do. thanks again !! -------------- ...morning and evening i'm flying, i'm dreaming... Back to top

raven4x4x Group: Members Posts: 1535 Joined: Jan. 2002 Posted: July 18 2005, 02:37 Quote (Inkanta @ July 17 2005, 22:54) I had a chuckle over the renewal lapse concept and was reminded of a cautionary tale. A couple years back, a theatre group in Illinois forgot to renew their domain and it was bought by a porno company who offered to sell it back to them at a very high cost. The theatre group, the [city] Players, opted to change domain names. Anyone innocently visiting the group's former site after the snafoo would have found a much different bunch of players.  The Players' tale of woe inspired one of my organizations to renew its domain very early. That reminds me of something that happened over here recently. One of those pop idol kind of shows had just finished, and there was a big advertising campaign to promote the new website of the winner, Casey Donovan. Unfortunately, in the adds they were missing the .au on the end of the address, and instead of Casey Donovan the pop singer, all those who went to the address on the add got to the website of Casey Donovan the porn star.   All those kids wanting to check out their new favourite singer must have got a bit of a shock.   -------------- Thank-you for helping us help you help us all. Back to top

Tim Group: Admins Posts: 28 Joined: July 2001 Posted: July 19 2005, 11:14 Hi all, Firstly, thankyou Inkanta for passing the information on, and María for your kind comments Just a quick update: I've been in contact with the people at the office where oldfield.info is hosted, and the problem has been fixed. It was the result of some cabling adjustments which led to the server being accidentally disconnected... oops. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Regarding musicvr.com, for those of you who may have wondered if it's linked in some way to oldfield.info, it's not. It's simply an annoying coincidence that both sites happened to be offline at the same time. I find it quite odd for a commercial site such as Mike's MusicVR site to be offline for such a long time; it looks unprofessional and must result in lost income if they are still actively selling the game. One can only assume that either they're unaware of the problem or simply don't care enough to fix it. Assuming they have backups, it shouldn't take more than a day or two to recover from even the most catastrophic hardware or connectivity failures. On a more technical note, I just examined the DNS data stored for musicvr.com. It appears that it resolves to 0.0.0.0. This is obviously completely wrong, since it should be pointing to their server and not a bunch of zeros. Maybe the site *is* actually working, and we just can't see it because the DNS is all screwed up (meaning that your browser can't find it). In the unlikely event of someone out there knowing what the IP address should be, we could test this theory... The fact that it's the DNS that's wrong suggests to me that the site wasn't deliberately closed down. Had this been the case, I would guess that they would put up some kind of an explanation. So it looks like a mistake, unless of course, they are protecting their server against some kind of attack. From what I can ascertain from some quick tests, their email should still be working... -------------- tim@tubular.net Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: July 19 2005, 16:42 Good to see you back in business Tim. Good luck with the new job, and many thanks for your efforts. What I find particularly mysterious is that I've sent emails to all Colin's addresses that I know of, and also to the mikeoldfield.com webmaster (which I presume will reach Fanny), and haven't had a reply from any of them so far. But if they check their email, they must know that the site is down..... Back to top

maria Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: July 2002 Posted: July 19 2005, 19:42 good to know from u, tim i've also emailed them via both sites and no answer yet. well, sooner or later we'll know something, i guess. valiado.. more and more i think your idea of compilling all the "mvr knowledge" is an excellent idea... -------------- ...morning and evening i'm flying, i'm dreaming... Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: July 20 2005, 10:37 Just had a reply from Colin. He doesn't know what's happening either, and is waiting to hear from Fanny. Back to top

maria Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: July 2002 Posted: July 26 2005, 01:32 et voilà!! musicvr.com is up and running again just like it was before the shutdown... weird but good news -------------- ...morning and evening i'm flying, i'm dreaming... Back to top

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