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Wanderer Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: Aug. 2002 Posted: Oct. 18 2003, 23:14 I have developed a mathematical formula for calculating how good Mike's albums are. 1. Take an album by Mike Oldfield 2. Give it a thorough listen 3. Divide the number of good tracks by the total number of tracks on the album. 4. Multiply the result by 100, and round off the decimal numbers 5. You now have a rating expressed as a percentage... Here is how Mike's various albums rate using this theory... TUBULAR BELLS   50% Good tracks: Part One Bad tracks: Part two HERGEST RIDGE   100% Good tracks: ALL OMMADAWN   100% Good tracks: ALL INCANTATIONS   100% Good tracks: ALL PLATINUM   63% Good tracks: Platinum 1-4, Punkadiddle Bad tracks: Woodhenge, Sally, I Got Rhythm QE2   100% Good tracks: ALL FIVE MILES OUT   60% Good tracks: Taurus 2, Mount Teide, Five Miles Out Bad tracks: Orabidoo, Family Man CRISES   67% Good tracks: Crises, Taurus 3, Moonlight Shadow, In High Places Bad tracks: Foreign Affair, Shadow On The Wall (shortened) DISCOVERY  25% Good tracks: To France, The Lake Bad tracks: Poison Arrows, Crystal Gazing, Tricks Of The Light, Discovery, Talk About Your Life, Saved By A Bell THE KILLING FIELDS   71% Good tracks: Pran's themes, Requiem For A City, Evacuation, Bad News, Capture, Execution, Pran's Departure, The Trek, The Boy's Burial, Good News, Etude Bad tracks: Worksite, The Year Zero 1 & 2, Blood Sucking, The Killing Fields ISLANDS   75% Good tracks: Wind Chimes 1 & 2, Islands, Flying Start, North Point, When The Night's On Fire Bad tracks: The Time Has Come, Magic Touch EARTH MOVING   56% Good tracks: Holy, Innocent, See The Light, Blue Night, Earth Moving Bad tracks: Hostage, Far Country, Runaway Son, Nothing But/Bridge To Paradise AMAROK   100% Good tracks: ALL HEAVEN'S OPEN   17% Good track: Heaven's Open Bad track: ALL THE REST TUBULAR BELLS II   100% Good tracks: ALL THE SONGS OF DISTANT EARTH   100% Good tracks: ALL VOYAGER   80% Good tracks: Song Of The Sun, Hero, Women Of Ireland, Voyager, Dark Island, Wild Goose Flaps It's Wings, Flowers Of The Forest, Mont St. Michel Bad tracks: Celtic Rain, She Moves Through The Fair TUBULAR BELLS III   100% Good tracks: ALL GUITARS   70% Good tracks: Muse, Cochise, Summit Day, B. Blues, Four Winds, Enigmatism, From The Ashes Bad tracks: Out Of Sight, Out Of Mind, Embers THE MILLENNIUM BELL   73% Good tracks: Peace On Earth, Pacha Mama, Doge's Palace, Lake Constance, Broad Sunlit Uplands, Mastermind, Amber Light, The Millennium Bell Bad tracks: Santa Maria, Sunlight Shining Through Cloud, Liberation TRES LUNAS   57% Good tracks: Misty, No Man's Land, Viper, Turtle Island, Tres Lunas, To Be Free, Sirius, No Man's Land 2 Bad tracks: Landfall, Thou Art In Heaven, Daydream, Firefly, To Be Free (edit) Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: Oct. 19 2003, 08:17 I´d use the Schrödinger equation to do it! -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Oct. 19 2003, 11:27 Or you can use my formula. Give 5 ratings from 0 to 10 in 5 cathegories: Fun factor, Ressonance, Originality, Richness and Solidness. Sum up these grades and divide by 5, and then add or subtract a few points for special reasons, if necessary. The result is a rating from 0 to 10, in steps of 0.5. According to this rating, Amarok gets a 10, Tubular Bells gets a 10, Tubular Bells II gets a 4, Crises gets an 8.5, Five Miles Out gets a 7.5 and Heaven's Open gets a 9. Now that's accuracy. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

raven4x4x Group: Members Posts: 1535 Joined: Jan. 2002 Posted: Nov. 08 2003, 20:24 I'd like to see where Wanderers rating system gets me, and compare them to my actual ratings. This system won't really work for albums of five or less tracks, becuase If you only like half of a long intrumental you have no option but to say you like it all. OK, here we go: Tubular Bells: Wanderer's System: 50% My rating: 70% Hergest Ridge Wanderer's System: 0% (See what I mean about this not working? ) My rating: 60% Ommadawn Wanderer's System: 50% My rating: 75% Incantations Wanderer's System: 50% My rating: 75% Platinum Wanderer's System: 50% My rating: 70% QE2 Wanderer's System: 33% My rating: 65% Five Miles Out Wanderer's System: 60% My rating: 80% Crises Wanderer's System: 50% My rating: 85% Discovery Wanderer's System: 50% My rating: 85% Islands Wanderer's System: 28.5% My rating: 50% Earth Moving Wanderer's System: 22% My rating: 60% Amarok Wanderer's System: 100% (not much choice really! ) My rating: 85% Heaven's Open Wanderer's System: 50% My rating: 70% Tubular Bells II Wanderer's System: 57% My rating: 90% Songs of Distant Earth Wanderer's System: 47% (Oh dear, wrong!!! ) My rating: 85% Voyager Wanderer's System: 10% My rating: 45% Tubular Bells III Wanderer's System: 63.5% My rating: 90% Guitars Wanderer's System: 30% My rating: 75% Millennium Bell Wanderer's System: 36% My rating: 60% Tres Lunas Wanderer's System: 31% My rating: 75% Tubular Bells 2003 Wanderer's System: 53% My rating: 80% As you can see, all the ratings are much too low. I might be too harsh deciding what is a good track or not, but I think it is because that an album with only four good songs on it can still be a great album if those four songs are very good and the rest are just OK. Guitars is prehaps the biggest example. Muse, Summit Day and Out of Mind are excellent, and the rest are OK, so it deserves 70%, not 30%. it's an interesting system, but it dosen't quite work. -------------- Thank-you for helping us help you help us all. Back to top

Wanderer Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: Aug. 2002 Posted: Nov. 09 2003, 23:26 [quote=raven4x4x,Nov. 08 2003, 20:24][/quote] RAVEN 4X4 SAID: As you can see, all the ratings are much too low. I might be too harsh deciding what is a good track or not, but I think it is because that an album with only four good songs on it can still be a great album if those four songs are very good and the rest are just OK. Guitars is prehaps the biggest example. Muse, Summit Day and Out of Mind are excellent, and the rest are OK, so it deserves 70%, not 30%. it's an interesting system, but it dosen't quite work. WANDERER SAYS: If a track is "okay but not brilliant", I still count it as a good track... tracks like "Muse" aren't masterpieces, but they are pleasant to listen to (to me, anyway). I only count as bad, pieces that are so bad I'm loathe to listen to them at all. But you're right in a way... Tracks like "Watchful Eye", "Supernova" and "Sunset Door" aren't that great to listen to on their own, but they function as important linking sections between other tracks and are integral to the fabric of the album... since an album like "Songs Of Distant Earth" is really two long instrumental pieces anyway. Back to top

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