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Posted: Jan. 25 2003, 09:46

let me explain at first I am a newbie here
so I like mike's music for years and I am really sad that people forget his early works ..like Earth Moving Tracks and so on...that's why i would like to produce a fan-made album with name like The Forgotten Hits  I know I will need Mike's permission and so on and so on... but I would like to know if anyone would like this idea? Or eventually if Mike will like it :)
To be sure you know what I am talking about here's a demo of remastering of the song "Holy" from the Earth Moving Album: http://www.rebirth.nd4spdworld.com/stuff/Holy.mp3
and here's another one with The Top Of The Morning: http://www.rebirth.nd4spdworld.com/stuff/TheTopOfTheMorning.mp3

IF YOU ARE FROM A LABEL AND WOULD LIKE TO PRODUCE MY IDEAS PLS CONTACT ME at booster@seermusic.com and we can have a talk :)

IF you are Mike :D pls contact me too :)

I would love to know what mike would think about it and I think that this way is the only way how can I give my thanks to him...my deepest thanks :)


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Posted: Jan. 25 2003, 17:41

What are Mike's 'forgotten hits'? That's fairly relative, don't you think? What you consider 'forgotten' songs I consider two of his best things he's ever made. Another fan may think along the same lines, and another, and another... To put it quite frankly, I just don't think that ANYONE, least at all Mike himself, can decide what are 'The Forgotten Hits'. Plus, I don't think it's a very good idea to ask Mike permission to do this... IMHO he's likely to spit in our faces just at the thought that any of his stuff may have been 'forgotten' by fans. ;) ;)

Also [please forgive me for telling you this, but it's what I think...] your so-called 'remasters' sound to me like very cheap MIDI renditions of the songs, i.e. pure crap. Please enroll some people who can really play, if you really want to pay an homage to Mike.


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Posted: Jan. 25 2003, 18:13

Come on now, don't insult the newbie on his FIRST day here! :)

Also, while I also dont think they're high-quality enough to release on a CD, they're still interesting. Good job! Maybe this should be in the Fan Tracks section? And also, interesting idea, but what you call 'forgotten tracks' actually aren't at all :). But then if you wanna talk about forgotten tracks, pretty much all of them are forgotten anyway (if we're talking about non-fans).

Also, welcome to the board! Nice to meet another MO fan!


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Posted: Jan. 25 2003, 20:49

Booster: Sorry. :)

Brandon: It wasn't my intention to insult him. :) I was only commenting on the quality of the bits I downloaded... you know, he called them 'remastered'. :)


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Posted: Jan. 26 2003, 09:36

At first the forgotten hits are meant to be a selection of very good things of mike's works :) I mean that non-fans forgot this ;) they might have listened it once but they forgot about it already

also this is not a try to get to real profi bussiness :) but I think that idea how one of fans likes the music of Mike :) is also interresting

Ugo: don't say sorry you don't have anything to say sorry about you just said your opinion and I am glad you did  cuz if there would not be any negative feedback we could not get any better don't you think?

MusicallyInspired: thx for defending me  and that you said that it sounds interresting
about the forgotten hits I just mean albums from 80's I have made a little research between people on my school (just like 50) and played MO music to them..they said it's good but I didn't ever heard it before that's why I think that most of albums should be re-released but with some new and different touch (maybe mine, when I get it to the point that even Ugo will like it)


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Posted: Jan. 26 2003, 17:34

Quote (Ugo @ Jan. 26 2003, 02:49)
I was only commenting on the quality of the bits I downloaded... you know, he called them 'remastered'. :)

Nopes, he didn't.

about here's a demo of remastering of the song "Holy"...

D e m o .
Just for remembering u to clean your glasses from time 2 time....
:p


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Posted: Jan. 26 2003, 18:05

Okay, deekay. It's demos. But demos of what? :) I wasn't questioning that, but rather I was arguing on the use of the word 'remaster' meaning 're-interpretation', a meaning of that word I've never heard before.

Booster: Sorry again. I didn't mean at all to be rude. I am pretty sure you can do MUCH better than that. Just work on it some more. ;)

P.S. (off-topic): Dkay, is there any hope of talkin' to you in the chatroom or on ICQ? I have a rather urgent question to ask you. :)


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Posted: Jan. 26 2003, 18:28

Ugo: ok man no problem ok?

Everyone: sorry for the word remaster :D cuz I feel this works are a bit like more to audio mastering than interpreting :) because the only thing played live in these two pieces is the piano  that is running through a delay module  so better word is re-master (using new audio techniques, new patches and so on but leaving the original notes)

and now pls get back to the topic  do you like these two pieces?

and yep Ugo maybe I could do better but it needs training and training  I desperately needed some feedback (positive if possible) so that's why I posted here :)


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Posted: Jan. 26 2003, 20:01

Quote (Ugo @ Jan. 27 2003, 00:05)
Okay, deekay. It's demos. But demos of what? :) I wasn't questioning that, but rather I was arguing on the use of the word 'remaster' meaning 're-interpretation', a meaning of that word I've never heard before.

P.S. (off-topic): Dkay, is there any hope of talkin' to you in the chatroom or on ICQ? I have a rather urgent question to ask you. :)

Demos of re-interpretations.
That was how I got it at first reading the 1st post.
This shouldn't become a discuss-how-to-use-words - boards.....
About your "urgent question": why don't u simply drop me an email? Didn't u find out how to disable html ?
:D  

Things can be so easy.....

;)



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Posted: Jan. 26 2003, 20:04

And now on-topic.

Well, I've heard these tunes about 2 time now and hmmm, I've heard worse attempts to (re-)cover Mike, but I've heard better....
As I compare 'em with official "Tributes" like "Tubular Vibes", they're close to them...



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Posted: Jan. 27 2003, 06:07

dkaycom: thanks very much :) finally some a bit positive feedback thank u :)

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Posted: Jan. 27 2003, 13:59

No more feedback? Go On pls more feedback !!!

Even negative :D


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Posted: Jan. 27 2003, 16:59

Quote (BOOsTER @ Jan. 27 2003, 13:59)
No more feedback? Go On pls more feedback !!!

Even negative :D

Negative feedback, thats cruel!! but I will give you a bit of that if you wish.

This forum is for Mike Oldfield fans, ie, those of us who have appreciated his music over the decades and with luck for new fans who have just discovered his music.

To us, there is no 'forgotten music'. all we have to do is look at our album collection and pick a song.

I can appreciate younger fans finding the newer albums and then going "Hey! there's some really old stuff that Mike produced, I wonder if anyone still listens to them" (Sorry, if your reading this Mike, your not that old)

Well, there are plenty of us who do listen and on a daily basis.

Its nice to see you making an effort to produce a 'demo' and I take my hat off to you for trying, I cannot even play a few notes or describe the technicalities of music, so I can see the effort you made in doing this.

I feel that you should listen to the 'fan music' on this site to get an idea of the tremendous effort some fans have made to show their appreciation of Mikes music.

Anyway I envy younger fans, because once they discover Mikes work, they can go out and buy all his previous works in the one go, unlike the rest of us who had to wait years between albums.

Cheers MO fan :D
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Posted: Jan. 28 2003, 12:38

MO Fan: thx for being sincerelly, in fact the name like the forgotten hits came on my mind suddenly and I thought it will make people here at tubular.net pay attention on my topic :) let me say it works pretty well :)

and yea there are no forgotten hits, for me, for u, for some other people :) BUT many people now don't even know how TB1 sounded like and so on :)

I know that some other ppl make better things than me
but..
i'm not the worst case...

you can visit my friends' site at http://robo.nd4spdworld.com/
cuz he really likes my music!"


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Posted: Feb. 27 2003, 06:57

Hello people I am a close friend of Mr. BOOsTER, he's a really good composer and he really wants to do album of Mike's hits... I know how much he loves his music and I know that his work is going straight from his heart and his deep thoughts... Every sound he did for these covers or whatever are we actually going to call it ;) took him a few hours o make. Since he wants to make Mike's music sound exactly the same but different. I know what he means I think what he does is that he tries to say something with the music...and wants to show that the music can speak differently depending on who's playing this or that...
so pls Mr. B. Keep your head up...
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and dear users pls be nice to him ;)

greetings to all Mike fans

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Posted: Feb. 27 2003, 13:48

My advice would be to try and produce it as best as you can without any support from Mike, record companies and the like - they're notorious for not being interested in projects like this.
While you're doing that, try building up contacts with people who you think might be able to help you, or who might know people who can help you. Try, for example, contacting musicians on sites like mp3.com whose work you think is similar to what you want your covers to sound like, and see if they'll help in any way.
When you have a good product (and a product it has to be if you hope to attract the attention of anyone in the commercial music scene), play it to everyone you can and try and get someone interested. You could even try sending a copy to Mike via Dark Star, though I'd not be too hopeful about getting any results that way...you can never tell, though. You could also see if you could get in touch with someone like Adrian Thomas, who often works as a synth programmer for Mike - he might offer interesting advice if nothing else (though like all these people, he's a busy person, so don't expect anything).

(P.S. To clear up the definitions, remastering would be taking Mike's recordings and producing a new master tape by re-processing them. This is definitely re-recording/interpreting).
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Posted: Feb. 28 2003, 13:23

thanks for your great advices Korg... I will try
just one question Dark Star? You mean mikeoldfield.org?
and yeah contacting the people is great idea...what about you at first? :)

and one more thing ;) you did not say anything about the files, did you listen them? what do you think?

and thx for a few support sentences ;)


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Posted: Mar. 03 2003, 12:30

By Dark Star, I mean the fanclub, who as you guessed can be found through www.mikeoldfield.org

You can always ask me for advice, but I can't really promise to be able to offer anything more than that - I tend to have so many people wanting me to be involved in things that I'd end up not having time to do any of them properly if I said yes to them all...but you never know your luck, sometimes people manage to catch me at a time when I've got a little bit less going on.

I did listen to the files. They're a good start - my advice would be to work on getting them more dynamic sounding, though that's not necessarily an easy thing. Looking for some really exciting synth sounds would be a good way to start; adding in some real instruments could also be a move in the right direction (but of course, be careful to make sure that they're well played and are adding something rather than taking something away).

I'd say that if you want it to be successful amongst people other than the fans who'll listen out of curiosity, it has to stand up as something in it's own right. That is, you have to give the music a character of its own, to make it more than just a lesser imitation of Mike's original, to make it something that people will want to listen to because it's good music rather than because it's a version of a track they already know. You've made a start in the right direction, you just have to keep going.
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Posted: Mar. 08 2003, 08:31

Ok, ok I will try and get back to you soon with some new files ;)

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Posted: Mar. 11 2003, 07:37

Quote (Guest @ Mar. 08 2003, 08:31)
Ok, ok I will try and get back to you soon with some new files ;)

Good idea. Your tracks are kind of crying for improvement. You've got a good starting point here with these files (it doesn't sounds irritating, at least), now it's time to make some art with it, some touching music. And as Ugo says, you can't make that with midi-like instruments.

And for the rest, Korgscrew says it all, as usual!  :D


Anyway, good luck for the future.


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