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Matt Group: Admins Posts: 1186 Joined: Nov. 2002 Posted: Nov. 07 2008, 07:48 Saw an announcement of Mike Oldfields new album and got very excited! Then I read the article..... Oh well, maybe next year   -------------- "I say I say I say I say, what's got three bottles and five eyes and no legs and two wheels" Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: Nov. 07 2008, 07:50 That sounds like a nice concept though, maybe the two Mikes should collaborate! Back to top

Guest Unregistered Posted: Nov. 07 2008, 16:31 There should be death penalty for using the same name   - Actually if the real Mike Oldfield has registered his name, it is illegal for somebody else to use in same context (music business) - even if that asshole is born with that name...once it patented (registered trademark) it´s your and only yours to use.. Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Nov. 07 2008, 16:50 I don't think it's wrong to have the same name as someone else who is more famous than you. But I do think it's stupid to exploit your name because it belongs to someone who is more famous than you. However, "Mike Oldfield" is a pseudonym. His real name is, of course, Michael Gordon Oldfield. I wonder if this guy is called exactly the same. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Dirk Star Group: Members Posts: 1331 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: Nov. 07 2008, 21:21 That`s just one example off the top of my head,but I`m sure there`s a few other ones.I actualy saw an advert for an album on the tv last week,where the guy had the same name as somebody else.But it`s gonna` drive me mad now trying to remember who it was?..Bugger it...I don`t know though, you`d think this Alcester Mike Oldfield guy would`ve altered his name a little bit.I mean even Michael Oldfield would`ve  shown some effort on his part even taking into account Heaven`s Open etc.We do after all have a James Morrison now don`t we,where as once it was just plain old Jim...Oh and Pete Shelley out The Buzzcocks, that`s another one I`ve just thought of.As there`s also a completely different guy releasing albums calling himself Peter Shelley.I`m sure there`s two Richard Thompsons as well now that I think about it. Anyway good to see Mike back in England,as with all due respect he could maybe do with staying out of all that hot Spanish sunshine for a little while.I mean I don`t want to come over all insular or cosmeticaly hyper critical here..But man those rays are taking their toll...Talk about Judith Chalmers syndrome or what? Back to top

Ray Group: Members Posts: 857 Joined: Jan. 2000 Posted: Nov. 09 2008, 10:44 Quote (prisoner.of.the.dark.sky @ Nov. 07 2008, 21:31) There should be death penalty for using the same name   - Actually if the real Mike Oldfield has registered his name, it is illegal for somebody else to use in same context (music business) - even if that asshole is born with that name...once it patented (registered trademark) it´s your and only yours to use.. I think this is not true.  If it is your name you can use it.  No one can stop you.  There was a famous court case recently. If you try to pretend you are someone you are not you can get in to trouble - but not for using you own name. If MO came up with Mike Oldfield by Mike Oldfield, then the other Mike Oldfield cold probably not use Mike Oldfield as an album title.   But could have one that was called Mike Oldfields Album by Mike Oldfield. I've lst track as to which one is which now........ Ray     -------------- Looking out over the harbour in Peel....... Back to top

Philippe Tavares Group: Members Posts: 1613 Joined: Feb. 2005 Posted: Nov. 09 2008, 17:03 In the same style. http://www.dawsons.co.uk/acatalog/Oldfield_Electric_Guitars.html Not the entire name but here , maybe , Oldfield is used for purposes mercantile ! I'm curious to know who could be the real manufacturer . Don't you really think this brand guitar is simply made for selling their products ? They also sell amplifiers and acoustic guitars . I've tried to find this brand guitar on some French websites selling guitar but not found yet . And i don't find their own website too . Maybe it's just a brand created for Dawsons ? Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Nov. 10 2008, 17:34 @ Dirk Star: that guy and that girl just happen to have the same surname (Amy Duffy - or sort-of - and Stephen Duffy). I don't think Amy knows anything about the existence of Stephen (or about his career), so I don't see anything bad, in that case, in using the same surname. James/Jim Morrison may be much worse, but luckily (for both) they don't belong to the same genre. @ Ray: "Billy Joel" is a registered trademark. "Enya" is a registered trademark. If your name happens to be Billy Joel or Enya but you aren't either of those famous singers, you can't record an album and sign it as Billy Joel or Enya. That would be illegal. What the other Mike Oldfield is doing is not illegal at all - AFAIK Michael Gordon Oldfield hasn't registered his shortening (and he hasn't registered "Michael Oldfield" either) - but, as I've said in my above post, to me it's just plain stupid. Clearly the Mike Oldfield from Alcester knows about his much more famous colleague from Reading, and he may have decided that signing the record with a name that's already famous may bring some luck with his own musical career. That's just a form of superstition. And as I don't believe in superstition, I just think that the whole thing is very, very silly. Also, I think I've read here on tubular.net that there's a music journalist from Australia called Mike Oldfield. He doesn't seem to have any problems in signing his books with that name. And I know that there's a film score composer called Brian May, but Queen's guitarist doesn't worry at all about him. @ Tubular Tos: Brand names are an entirely different matter - a brand name may be created to associate itself with a famous person even if that person doesn't know anything about the brand. It's perfectly legal. Maybe the guy who makes (or designed) those guitars is actually called Oldfield. In Southern Italy there's a very small guitar-making firm called Battaglia Guitars (it's useless to Google them, they don't have a website). They're not associated with Dodi Battaglia, a famous Italian guitarist, but he doesn't bother with that. If all Italian singers and musicians should bother with everyone who uses their names, their surnames or their pseudonyms as brand names, they wouldn't be making music any more. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Dirk Star Group: Members Posts: 1331 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: Nov. 11 2008, 03:22 @ Ugo,I totally agree with you about this Alcester Mike Oldfield guy.Like I said earlier even just using the name of Michael Oldfield would`ve been showing some kind of common sense.So ok I don`t think the guy is expecting mega-sales with this thing,and maybe he`s doing it all tongue in cheek anyway I don`t know?On the other hand maybe he`s had the pip all these years because this younger bloke with the same name as him beat him to the punch.By about ooooh 35 bloody years or so?...In all seriousness I can`t say I`m too bothered by it all really,but it is a bit daft like you say. On the Stephen Duffy thing who I am a big fan of incidentaly,I was just kind of using that as an example you know I would`nt take issue with young Amy over it.Besides which Stephen Duffy keeps changing his mind that often on whatever moniker he`s going to put on the front of his next album you could`nt blame her either way.So for the record we`ve had..Stephen tin tin Duffy...The Lilac Time..Stephen Duffy...Duffy..and now Stephen Duffy & The Lilac Time.Not to mention all the other side projects he`s been involved with under assumed names etc..And the less said about him co-writing for Robbie Williams the better.Although it was nice to see him making some money for a change,rather than just brilliantly crafted folky/guitar pop albums that nobody wants to buy.     Back to top

Sweetpea Group: Members Posts: 1476 Joined: April 2007 Posted: Dec. 07 2008, 06:30 This thread title makes me pensive. But that's because I'm greedy and I want a new MO album every year. -------------- "I'm no physicist, but technically couldn't Mike both be with the horse and be flying through space at the same time? (On account of the earth's orbit around the Sun and all that). So it seems he never had to make the choice after all. I bet he's kicking himself now." - clotty Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4770 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: Dec. 07 2008, 08:20 It's interesting to speculate on the emotional feel of the next album based on those of the last two. Light was full of sadness ("Blackbird", "Rocky"), heart-broken resignation ("Sunset"); Shade was a kind of hymn to robotic non-presence; and Music of the Spheres was permeated by a sense of menace and even imminent panic. The logical next step would seem to be outright despair. I hope I'm wrong. Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: Dec. 07 2008, 09:29 And this guy has got a MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/streetsofalcester -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: Dec. 07 2008, 10:23 Well, that stuff sounds great! Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Dec. 07 2008, 18:57 @ Daniel/nightspore, MotS doesn't sound to me like it's permeated by a sense of menace. It's certainly very, very dramatic, but in a movie-ish, soundtrackish sort of way - not the kind of drama you'd like to go through in your life, but the kind of big drama you'd definitely like to see on the big screen. And the way MotS (especially in its second half) develops all the way up to its big ending certainly doesn't sound menacing or panic-announcing... it sounds very triumphant. But of course that's only my view of it. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Bassman Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: Dec. 07 2008, 20:47 This guy knows damn well that people are going to be momentarily confused by the name and show a mistaken interest.  In my book that's just plain parasitic.  If he wants to make a name for himself he should use his middle name or something.  Other people have had to do that.  Or is he actually going to say something like he's never heard of this other Mike Oldfield fellow? Sad. Back to top

wiga Group: Members Posts: 2113 Joined: Sep. 2008 Posted: Dec. 08 2008, 01:29 And it's possible he may have more than one middle name. Incidently, I have always used my middle name because my mother allowed my grandmother to chose my 1st name for me. Not good - a Gordon type of name. -------------- Barn's burnt down - now I can see the moon. Back to top

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