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nerd_flanders Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: July 2006 Posted: July 04 2006, 06:49 who is the poncy english idiot who introduces all the instruments at the end of tubular bells prt 1?????? Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: July 04 2006, 07:50 Hi Mr Flanders , welcome to TubularBoard . On the original 1973 Tubular Bells, "Master of Ceremonies "is  Viv Stanshall, of The Bonzo Dog Do-dah Band.Born in Walthamstow , East London, he was evacuated with his Mother to Shillington in Oxfordshire. His Father was demobbed after WW2, as an army officer, and at home Viv was expected to talk "posh",but with his friends he reverted to his localTeddy Boy dialect.     more can be found about him here.    www.iankitching.me.uk/music/bonzos/viv.html, scroll down the page for info on his contribution to Tubular Bells, including info on the "vocal" version of "The Sailors Hornpipe, available on the "Boxed" LP/CD set. You might be interested in www.gingergeezer.net/ a site maintainedby Viv's family.   -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

Bleat Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: June 2006 Posted: July 04 2006, 12:24 John Cleese on TB2003 (strange choice and the only thing that spoils tb2003 imo)... Oh well... Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: July 04 2006, 22:00 Come to find out, there is a guy somewhat locally who had been a friend of Viv's. One of these days, I will get around to interviewing him. -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

TubularBelle Group: Members Posts: 1487 Joined: April 2004 Posted: July 05 2006, 03:09 Yeh I always thought John Cleese was a bad choice as well. He is a comedian, is TB a comedic piece? It never sat right with me. Love Viv tho and esp the Boxed version, and I love Alan Rickman too. Yeh I know the Boxed version was comedic as well but it was not the official release, it was meant to be comedic. -------------- I hate getting up early. I didn't even realise there were two 6 o'clocks in one day! Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: July 05 2006, 06:41 Quote (Bleat @ July 04 2006, 17:24) John Cleese on TB2003 (strange choice and the only thing that spoils tb2003 imo)... Oh well... Thanks Bleat, I've had another blast of TB2003, after seeing your post,I'll write  more on this in "TB2003 A basic attitude problem" thread. Quote ubularBelle   Posted on July 05 2006, 08:09Yeh I always thought John Cleese was a bad choice as well. He is a comedian, is TB a comedic piece? It never sat right with me. Love Viv tho and esp the Boxed version, and I love Alan Rickman too. Yeh I know the Boxed version was comedic as well but it was not the official release, it was meant to be comedic. I agree I find John Cleese as Master of Ceremonies rather annoying,  for me something about his delivery just doesn't work   .  Is TB comedy??  I don't think that's how Mike originally intended TB to be,I think the comic elements were thought up later on,after copious amounts of whisky,from The Manor cellar,or a local pub, depending on which version you believe. I love Viv as M of C, and I also love the "Boxed" Sailors Hornpipe. Oh the fun,the frivolity,I can picture Mike's ,Viv's and Tom Newman's 3am tramp around the Manor house   . I play my CD of TB more,despite my love of the Boxed Sailors Hornpipe,  I only have Boxed on LP and no turntable and phono stage ATM. To be honest I love both versions,I don't think the spoken Sailors Hornpipe would've had a detrimental effect upon sales.   -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1548 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: July 05 2006, 08:32 Yeah, the boxed version really is a laugh... he sounds more pissed as the song goes on... I love the way he says 'Oxfordshire, 1973, goodnight' ...   Cleese is annoying a bit, though he 's cool as a person. I find him in the Piltdownboy section more sounding like a poodle than a caveman. hahaha...   Vivian Stanshall is the best MC imho. Just a very lovely voice.   -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: July 05 2006, 11:07 Quote (Piltdownboy on horseback 22 @ July 05 2006, 08:32) Yeah, the boxed version really is a laugh... he sounds more pissed as the song goes on... I love the way he says 'Oxfordshire, 1973, goodnight' ...   Cleese is annoying a bit, though he 's cool as a person. I find him in the Piltdownboy section more sounding like a poodle than a caveman. hahaha...   Vivian Stanshall is the best MC imho. Just a very lovely voice.   So Cleese is the Klingon???? -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1548 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: July 05 2006, 11:10 I have no idea what a klingon is, but I'm sure that he is     -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

Bleat Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: June 2006 Posted: July 05 2006, 11:20 I forgot to say hello Nerd_Flanders...how rude of me so ..Hello! Having thought about it(and had a listen),I think I can see where Mike Oldfield was coming from .....I guess that this section of music is more uplifting and "fun" (compared to other sections of TB) ,and so maybe wanted the MC's voice to reflect this, ........hence the use of John Cleese......so maybe not quite so strange a choice after all,however, I still dont think it comes over too well.....maybe a lesser known/recognisable voice would have worked better ?........anyhow Viv Stanshall is/was the best version...... and it could have been worse......it cudve been MC Hammer from Bleat Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1548 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: July 05 2006, 11:40 I forgot too... So: Hello Nerd Flanders Hows life in Springfield???   -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: July 05 2006, 13:18 Quote (Piltdownboy on horseback 22 @ July 05 2006, 11:10) I have no idea what a klingon is, but I'm sure that he is     I could send you to a Star Trek FAQ, but that would not give you the connection. Klingon = humanoid alien race created in the first "Star Trek" TV series. Substantially revised in "Star Trek: The Next Generation" and subsequent series. A Klingon language was introduced in the first "Star Trek" film. It is extremely harsh and gutteral. The instances where Klingons speak their "native language" in "Star Trek" sound rather like the caveman duet singers in "Caveman".  Mike Oldfield, if he is a Star Trek fan, was surely aware of this as he remade "Piltdown Man" into the "Caveman" track in TB2003. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

The Big BellEnd Group: Members Posts: 971 Joined: Jan. 2004 Posted: July 05 2006, 14:40 Personally I found that nerd's question was equally racist, ignorant and offensive. I'm suprised to find that anybody answered such a crass and repellent post. -------------- I, ON THE OTHER HAND. AM A VICTIM OF YOUR CARNIVOUROUS LUNAR ACTIVITY. Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1548 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: July 05 2006, 17:23 Thanks for the explanation Hiawatha! It doesn't surprise me now that I didn't understand, since in my whole life I must have watched 4 seconds of star trek -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

Jeremy Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: July 06 2006, 05:14 I totally agree with The Big BellEnd on this one. -------------- How can they NOT like my music! Back to top

arron11196 Group: Members Posts: 826 Joined: April 2005 Posted: July 06 2006, 05:42 Yes, I think so too. It may have just been said like that in jest, but some people can find comments particularly offensive. People on this board appreciate the basic courtesies, as a heads up to you Nerd_flanders. -------------- Arron J Eagling Everyone's interpretation is different, and everyone has a right to that opinion. There is no "right" one, I am adding this post to communicate my thoughts to share them with like-minded souls who will be able to comment in good nature. (insert the last 5 mins of Crises here) Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: July 06 2006, 07:51 I agree that people may  find that comment offensive, even though it may well have been put in that manner for jest. The idea that one should speak using BBC English is an outdated concept, the  regional accents spoken on UK tv programmes today is so varied . After all the time it tookto checkout the links and get them to work,in answer the original question  asimple thanks would have been nice         .  Rant over Still on the positive side this topic has become alively topic about the Master Of Ceremonies role, and John Cleese playing a Klingon for the Caveman section of TB 2003   . Quote Bleat   Posted on July 05 2006, 16:20........anyhow Viv Stanshall is/was the best version...... I agree love Viv as M of C. I've just had a thought enter my head if Mike decided that he wanted to tour with Tubular Bells how about teaming up with Brian May, and Patrick Moore as M of C     . -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

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