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Posted: Nov. 24 2004, 16:44

Hello there, everybody! :D
I'd like to ask Mr. "Lord Of The Bells" whether there is another edition of the utopic album on its way? And if so when can we expect it to be available?

Before answering this question, remember the night of Tubular Bells III's World Premiere after the repeats of Secrets and Far Above The Clouds. What did the crowd chant? Yes! "We want more! We want more! We want more! We want more! We...." You get my point?

Please make me a very happy guy! If the answer is yes (that there is a possibility of TB IV), I'll start saving now to buy the album.

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A very faithful fanatic :laugh:
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Posted: Nov. 24 2004, 17:36

Please Mike,the Tubular Bells saga is now finished with TB 2003.
Do hope so!


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Posted: Nov. 25 2004, 18:04

TB is a trilogy... and IMHO it should be no more than that.

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Posted: Nov. 25 2004, 18:26

I'm not against the idea... but only if it has no marketing aims...

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Posted: Nov. 25 2004, 18:27

Hmm, more TB? I think not.

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Posted: Nov. 26 2004, 01:47

I don't care what the album is called. If it sounds good, I'll buy it. That said, I don't think he will release another Tubular Bells album. I have a feeling that he's decided not to.

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Posted: Nov. 26 2004, 05:05

There's a sense in which TB2003 brings a certain closure to the whole lifelong TB project, don't you think?

But then.. the concept clearly so haunts him, that it wouldn't surprise me if it resurfaced - and I wouldn't mind a bit!
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Posted: Nov. 26 2004, 05:16

Eh, I'd run screaming and kill a random person if TBIV came to conception.

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Posted: Nov. 26 2004, 07:20

Quote (Sir Mustapha @ Nov. 26 2004, 05:16)
Eh, I'd run screaming and kill a random person if TBIV came to conception.

Glad I'm not living in Brasil!

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Posted: Nov. 26 2004, 10:03

TB IV and V together on double disc, yippeeeee.

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Posted: Nov. 26 2004, 11:19

Quote (Sir Mustapha @ Nov. 26 2004, 10:16)
Eh, I'd run screaming and kill a random person if TBIV came to conception.

Well... imagine the absurdity of being a Rembrandt fan in the 17th century, and telling Rembrandt that, thanks, we have quite enough self-portraits now .... Or of telling Constable that we've seen quite enough of the Stour Valley, thank you...

What's the difference?
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Posted: Nov. 26 2004, 14:40

Mike rerecorded TB1 just to launch it with a perfect recording quality. TBII is already perfect, and TBIII has a good engineering also. Another Tubular would be freakin weird.

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Posted: Nov. 26 2004, 16:40

Let's hear it and I will say if it was a good decision or not. :D

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Posted: Nov. 27 2004, 11:24

Quote (Alan D @ Nov. 26 2004, 11:19)
Well... imagine the absurdity of being a Rembrandt fan in the 17th century, and telling Rembrandt that, thanks, we have quite enough self-portraits now .... Or of telling Constable that we've seen quite enough of the Stour Valley, thank you...

What's the difference?

The difference is that Mike Oldfield is not just Tubular Bells! And some people seem to agree with me on that one! ;)

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Posted: Nov. 27 2004, 12:39

Quote (Sir Mustapha @ Nov. 27 2004, 16:24)
The difference is that Mike Oldfield is not just Tubular Bells!

Where did I say he was?

Rembrandt wasn't just a self-portrait painter either; and Constable painted many places other than the Stour valley. That doesn't mean they were wrong to keep returning to these original inspirations though, and re-exploring them. That's how they work. It's how many artists work.
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Posted: Nov. 27 2004, 12:54

Mike Oldfield has revisited Tubular Bells many times before, in different albums, in different ways - be it in the songwriting style, be it in instrumentation, be it in spirit. He didn't need to make Tubular Bells II to do that, let alone Tubular Bells III. Tubular Bells IV? Look, why not revisit... say, Incantations, for a change? Just for diversity's sake?

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Posted: Nov. 27 2004, 13:31

Quote (Sir Mustapha @ Nov. 27 2004, 17:54)
Look, why not revisit... say, Incantations, for a change? Just for diversity's sake?

Surely it's obvious by now that the idea of tubular bells - the image, the essence of a certain kind of sound, or sequence of notes - that essence is buried deep in Mike Oldfield's psyche. It's not merely part of him - it's an essential part of him, and it's apparently an inexhaustible source of inspiration for him to draw on.

The reason he doesn't re-explore Incantations (or whatever) is presumably because he's said all he has to say in that area; he's explored it; it isn't troubling him, niggling him, inspiring him.

The idea that you or I might know best about what he should and shouldn't be inspired by is extraordinary, I think. He does what his inner drive insists upon. That's what makes him a great artist - and he would stop being a great artist if he ignored it.
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Posted: Nov. 27 2004, 13:53

I know how it feels to be inspired. I also have my big sources of inspiration. But that does not mean that you have to make the same album over and over and over. Great artists channel their inspiration and use it as raw material for anything they desire. Great artists don't do the very same thing they did yesterday diguised as something "new".

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Posted: Nov. 27 2004, 13:54

the difference to rembrandt or constable is that mike does one album in 1 or 2 (sometimes more) years while rembrandt or constable needed considerably less time for one work of art.

i would not be angry or anything it there were yet another tubular bells, still i this would mean not having another album - in a way opportunity cost.
thus i would prefer having another (good) "new" album than having another tb.


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Posted: Nov. 27 2004, 15:54

Quote (Sir Mustapha @ Nov. 27 2004, 18:53)
Great artists don't do the very same thing they did yesterday diguised as something "new".

Now we come to the nub of the matter. In your opinion, TB2 and TB3 are the same as TB1, but disguised as something new.

Well I hardly know what to say, except that I disagree from the very bowels of my being (nice metaphor, eh?). If that were truly the case, how could I have found TB2 so inspiring over so many years, and the source of so many wonderful musical listening experiences (whereas TB1 has never really quite lived up to my expectations of it)? OK, so TB3 doesn't reach such dizzy heights... but TB2  is a triumph, to me. Almost - almost - I could see it as the ultimate justification for writing TB1!!!

The same, disguised as something new... no, no, I don't get that. We must be listening in totally different ways.
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