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Major Gowen Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: June 2008 Posted: July 31 2008, 01:53 I think everyone is well aware this isn’t Mike’s favourite type of music, but I was wondering what people on this forum thought of punk. Obviously it’s a vastly over-generalized term that can encompass a lot of artists. I have a feeling at lot of Mike Oldfield fans won’t be keen on punk and its brethren such as post-punk and new wave, so what do people think about it? For the record my own attitude to punk is thus: I prefer groups who were inspired by or followed in the wake of the 1976 'explosion' rather than the original wave itself. For instance a band like Joy Division wouldn’t have existed if it wasn’t for the Sex Pistols, yet their music was light years from the primordial thrash of Rotten and co, so much more sophisticated and cerebral. Also, The Stranglers hitched a ride on the coat-tails of punk and whilst the aggressive/sexist early material is good to shake the dust out of the ears, later albums like The Raven and Meninblack housed incredibly complex music with highly intelligent lyrics. I think what I’m saying is I see punk as something which enabled talented and creative people to find their spark (for want of a better word) and shed their inhibitions. Rather like the way I see Bob Dylan, I don’t like his music personally but he’s been a vast influence on a lot of artists I do like. Back to top

Scatterplot Group: Members Posts: 1981 Joined: Dec. 2007 Posted: July 31 2008, 04:28 bad. -------------- We raise our voices in the night Crying to heaven And will our voices be heard Or will they break Like the wind Back to top

Dirk Star Group: Members Posts: 1331 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: July 31 2008, 06:08 Quote (Major Gowen @ July 31 2008, 06:53) I think everyone is well aware this isn’t Mike’s favourite type of music, but I was wondering what people on this forum thought of punk. Obviously it’s a vastly over-generalized term that can encompass a lot of artists. I have a feeling at lot of Mike Oldfield fans won’t be keen on punk and its brethren such as post-punk and new wave, so what do people think about it? For the record my own attitude to punk is thus: I prefer groups who were inspired by or followed in the wake of the 1976 'explosion' rather than the original wave itself. For instance a band like Joy Division wouldn’t have existed if it wasn’t for the Sex Pistols, yet their music was light years from the primordial thrash of Rotten and co, so much more sophisticated and cerebral. Also, The Stranglers hitched a ride on the coat-tails of punk and whilst the aggressive/sexist early material is good to shake the dust out of the ears, later albums like The Raven and Meninblack housed incredibly complex music with highly intelligent lyrics. I think what I’m saying is I see punk as something which enabled talented and creative people to find their spark (for want of a better word) and shed their inhibitions. Rather like the way I see Bob Dylan, I don’t like his music personally but he’s been a vast influence on a lot of artists I do like. I like punk music but I`ve probably got similar views on it as yourself.I`m right there with you on The Stranglers no question.It`s a shame that they`re often criminaly over-looked now in a lot of punk biographies/documentaries.Mainly due to the amount of journalists/media people they upset at the time.I was too young to notice the punk thing when it first kicked off here in 1976(I was ten)..I think the first band I really started to take note of was The Buzzcocks in 1978 when they were regulars on TOTP`s back then.Yeah even my mother liked those guys.They just had so much appeal for me early on... great tunes,originality,Pete Shelley`s vocal delivery,aggressive guitars.Plus they looked so cool to me at the time.They were more like four slightly older brothers I guess, rather than your dad or somebody just completely removed from the fabric of society all together.Like a dis-affected version of The Monkees or something? I think that was when I really started getting into punk, but of course it was already starting to morph into new wave back then.But I agree without punk there would`ve been no xtc/Talking Heads/Television/Joy Division/Elvis Costello/The Cure etc etc..And all the great 2tone ska stuff as well.Or the bands that came out of Liverpool like Teardrop Explodes and Echo & The Bunnymen.Or from up in Scotland like Orange Juice and then Aztec Camera.I`d say about 80-90% still of the music that I own is kind of indirectly linked to punk one way or another. That said though I was never really a fan of any of the 2nd wave of punk stuff,people like The Exploited and Anti Nowhere League etc.Or Crass bloody hell I`ve just remembered those dudes.Seemed like they had a new album out every fortnight back in the early 80`s.But I always liked Killing Joke though.And then The Damned second time around when Sensible switched to lead guitar.Or Siouxsie And The Banshees when John McGeoch started to move to the fore.So some of those original guys really did progress for me.And I dare say in a lot of cases would probably have never been given the chance to but for the whole "do it yourself" kind of manifesto of the whole punk movement..That said though I still like all those early Pistols singles as well.    The Captain`s views on punk So Mike does`nt like Punk and he keeps kind of coming out with this "Rock is dead" thing now as well.Now whilst I think there`s still an enourmous amount of great new & exciting music being created in the kind of leftfield of music if you like.As well as there still being some great songwriters out there as well.I personaly think that from a mainstream point of view he`s maybe got a point.You know it took a little over 20 years to move from Rock N` Roll to Punk and all that amazing stuff in-between.But now over 30 years later I feel like I`m just seeing re-hash after re-hash I really do...I`m getting old though..."Bin there and done it guv`nor..bought the t.shirt blah blah.. "..   I tell you what it is but "anti-establishment,..giving it to The Man and the older generation etc"..Maybe the first thing that the next kind of punk movement should do(should there ever be one that is)..Is to chuck all that stuff in the crazy mixed up kid dustbin for all eternity.Maybe then something "different" will start happening...Or maybe they should bring it back??..Hell even Phil Collins used to "shout" every once in a while. Back to top

3Wheeler Group: Members Posts: 828 Joined: Aug. 2007 Posted: July 31 2008, 07:10 Imagine if MO had gone radical at the time and made a Sort of "New Wave" record...  It could actually have been rather good!!! He certainly had the Stage Persona for it.!    I just think Punk put a bit of Energy back into  the Scene at the time..  Not to keen on the Image of it but the Music it spawned seemed to make it all worthwhile overall... -------------- We're Flying Aeroflot, We've Got Reservations. Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: July 31 2008, 09:05 I'm also bigger on the post-punk music (absolutely love Talking Heads and The Cure, really like Joy Division and XTC), but only because I haven't heard enough punk. In fact, I've heard near zero of it - but I think I'd probably like the Ramones a real lot. Nowadays, I don't think there's the potential for such a "movement" happening, because with the Internet in full flight, everything is happening at the same time. What once was "underground" and hard to find, today is extremely accessible. I'd be completely supportive of any big movement arising against the "Music Industry". Shame there's nothing centralised as of now, but several artists are turning against it. Godspeed You! Black Emperor included in the artwork of Yanqui U.X.O. a chart tying four big record industries to the military industry; The Flashbulb put out his most recent album, Soundtrack to a Vacant Life, along with a manifesto encouraging people not to buy music from record stores; and then there was Radiohead with In Rainbows. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Aug. 01 2008, 05:30 Punk is a genre of music I've mixed views on, there's the good bad and the ugly side of Punk. Moreover where did Punk music start out, in England The Sex Pistols exploded onto the Punk scene in '76, but I do believe the Punk scene had it's roots some 8-10 years before Messrs  Rotten , Vicious and co, in the town of Warwick and also London, it was in 1968 that the Edgar Broughton Band travelled from Warwick n and set up home in the Portobello Road scene of London in 1968. Along with fellow "Harvest" label mates The Pink Fairies They had the attitude of Punk.  see reviews herehttp://www.edgarbroughtonband.co.uk A short bio here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Broughton_Band The EBB had started out as a Blues band, but discovered Psychedelia and Captain Beefheart, I guesss they could  be classed as Prog , however I find labels so restrictive. However they had the attitude of "Punk before it was Punk" , the Broughtons political views being anti establishment and anarchist.  Edgar Broughton declared their stance to be "we're The Broughtons, we're going to play, what are you going to do about it?".  They were a favourite on many of the free festivals of the day, a vastly unnderrated band IMHO. I do wonder then what actually consitutes Punk, Queen's  1977's News Of The World album  had the songs "Sheer Heart Attack" and "Fight From The Inside" , but it was bands such as Queen , and other bands, such as ELP, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin that were able to fill stadiums at the time Punk was a rebellion against.  Queen successfully mixed elements of both Prog Rock and Glam, something that Punk rebelled against, well maybe it just proves that you can't put Queen into such narrow categories.           Quote Dirk Star- I think that was when I really started getting into punk, but of course it was already starting to morph into new wave back then.But I agree without punk there would`ve been no xtc/Talking Heads/Television/Joy Division/Elvis Costello/The Cure etc etc..And all the great 2tone ska stuff as well.Or the bands that came out of Liverpool like Teardrop Explodes and Echo & The Bunnymen.Or from up in Scotland like Orange Juice and then Aztec Camera.I`d say about 80-90% still of the music that I own is kind of indirectly linked to punk one way or another. Yes I have to agree with you Mick, I think as a 6 year old in '77 I found the image of Punks scary, I did enjoy some of the New Wave that followed on.  I do wonder what would have happened to music were it not for Punk, I was listening to some 2Tone last night, I had The Specials "Ghost Town" in my head , and I just couldn't get it out (this has lead me to check out some of Terry Halls more recent work), 2 Tone was a mix of Reggae, Ska and Punk, would my teenage years have been spent listening to Madness were it not for Punk, as Madness started out as a 2 Tone band, and Stiff Records Madnesses label came about due to the 2 Tone movement. Getting back to Punk, I have to say that Punk had a part to play in the music scene, I am quite eclectic with my musical tastes, I would say that "Never mind The Bollocks" is an iconic album.  However I don't see why there wasn't room at Virgin for both Mike and the Sex Pistols, without Tubular Bells there would have been no Virgin records, I wonder what would have happened to the Sex Pistols without Virgin.   I think with RB the seems to hit upon what seems to be fashionable at the time. I do agree that maybe the singles and album charts need a return to the days of Prog and Punk, with all these boy and girl bands around or the latest X Factor winner, to me that is manufactured music, it just needs the Raw Energy of Punk to blow the cobwebs away. I do think there are many good bands out there who don't get a look in as they're not "commercial" enough for the mainstream, and who wants to follow stupid rules anyway         -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: Aug. 01 2008, 14:44 I'm with most people on here, post-punk is fine, sometimes great, but I'd rather listen to the sappiest Celine Dion ballad than to the Sex Pistols. Back to top

Airborne Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: Sep. 2006 Posted: Aug. 01 2008, 15:08 Listen to Lunatics Lament by Kevin Ayers, with Mike on bass - does that not have a little bit of punk attitude? Don't forget this was 1970 and long before the new wave. Back to top

The Caveman Group: Members Posts: 2178 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: Aug. 01 2008, 15:18 The idea behind punk was sound enough though (and i really do not like punk).Prog rock had gotten far too serious and the musicians themselves were getting very highbrow causing the whole genre to start disappearing up it's own bum.It's hardly surprising that the younger guys got pissed off with it as they just wanted to play and get out thier frustration.England was a pretty depressing place at the time (i was only 1 1/2 when punk hit in 1976 so this is all stuff i've heard since)politically and the mood was getting ugly.Add to this the awfull 'pop' scene at the time and hey presto...punk was born.  They weren't technically good on their instruments but they proved a point.It's just the aggression against anything outside their ethos that ruins it....and the spitting....and the songs.......and.....   -------------- THE COMING OF THE GREAT WHITE HANDKERCHEIF IS NIGH. Back to top

Bassman Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: Aug. 01 2008, 16:56 Caveman summed it up pretty well.  Punk WAS an ethos, and a healthy one at that, given the time and place.  Bear in mind that I AM taking into account that the Pistols were borne out of loitering around McLaren's "Sex"... a clothing store!  Then the Damned, the Clash and the Stranglers chimed in, though it seems to me that those three band couldn't give a rat's ass about how they looked.  Next thing you know the Vibrators and the Police come up and before you know it, movements like the New Romantics (among others) are making the music take a bit of a back seat to the hair and outfits.  All thanks to clever, savvy marketing execs.  Well, at least the 80's gave us a LOT of fun music, as disposable as it may have seemed.  I think that may be the point I was trying make. The Stranglers are a great example of a band that kept making fantastic music through it all.  Sure, their music changed.  But not because they felt punk was a dry well, they simply started growing older and wiser.  The ear gets sophisticated pretty quickly, and musicians would start to look for outlets of expression that reflect that growth. I don't miss the gobbing, though.  Do audiences still do that? -------------- Turn up the music... Hi as Fi can go. Back to top

Dirk Star Group: Members Posts: 1331 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: Aug. 01 2008, 22:20 One thing about The Stranglers was that they`d been a couple of years in existance before the whole punk thing kicked off.I think they probably saw punk as a way in for them really.The upside being that it gave their material a lot more bite and impetus.On the other hand though they ended up dropping songs like Strange Little Girl(which they later reorded in 1981)simply because they felt it would`nt have fitted in with the whole punk scene at that time.It was a similar kind of thing for XTC as well who had been around for years as Star Park.They even kind of went through a punk/glam rock phase for a while influenced by the New York Dolls.Who themselves of course along with people like The Stooges and MC5 were a major influence on punk themselves.Imo though had it not been for punk those two bands (and probably countless more) would have struggled to make it at all.The main problem with Punk in itself for me was that in the end it just turned into every other kind of rock/popular genre that ever existed.It became stylised and fashion conscious very quickly really,and of course people were making money out of it. I always remember staying in this youth hostel kind of place for a week in the early 80`s when I was about 15.It was on some sort of out in the country school art trip I recall where there was other kids there from different schools in the area etc.But anyway I`d took my walkman down with all these tapes to listen to.And I had a Jethro Tull tape,The Beatles,Mike Oldfield of course,..And amongst some other stuff I had a Damned tape and The Stranglers.The great thing about being in those sort of places is that you get to make friends very quickly with people.And it was`nt too long before I got chatting away with this punk kid there and comparing musical tastes etc.Man was this kid ever appalled with my grubbly collection of c90`s.You know as soon as he saw The Tull and Oldfield in there that was it I was christened "the hippy kid" for that entire week.Did`nt bother me in the slightest mind I may add.But yeah even the punk stuff I had was`nt gaining me any kudous with this guy..."The only good song The Stranglers ever recorded was Duchess"..he informed me."Yeah ok mate I`ll remember that when I`m listening to all that other shite they did in the future"..(insert eye-rolling smiley here) No this kid was the real deal through and through.God only knows how much his mummy and daddy must`ve paid for his tartan bondage pants and his three million lace up Dr Marten`s?But all I can say is "Do It Yourself and Anarchy??..My Arse!!...I`m trying to remember who he was into now besides Crass and The Dead Kennedy`s?I think he may well have liked some more kind of abstract industrial stuff like Throbbing Gristle as well.I mean I say "Like it" but what I`m actualy driving at is that it would`ve "fitted the bill" for him you know.He`d obviously spent a lot of time digesting NME letters pages is what I`m trying to say.I think he expected me not to have ever heard of any of this stuff as well.Like he was going to re-educate me in the error of my ways and such.I actualy think he was a little bit knocked sideways that I could name songs by these people,and yet I was still listening to Hergest Ridge.Yeah it takes all sorts I guess..     Back to top

Major Gowen Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Aug. 02 2008, 01:39 It's good to read some positive things being said about The Stranglers on here, for me one of the most misunderstood groups. Sure they played up to the nasty, misogynist image quite a lot but many groups in the late 70s loved being provocative and getting a reaction, and they were more humorous than most. As Bassman said they changed their sound in the 80s, but the 'mellow' Stranglers did some great material as well. Interesting that you mention The Damned, Dirk Star. They're a strange case really, the first UK punk band to release a single (or so I believe) yet they outlasted the Sex Pistols and made some fine records - I would rank Strawberries as one of the best albums by a British band, totally underrated. Captain Sensible is/was a far better guitarist than he's given credit for. Another punk/new wave band that deserve a bit more praise are The Skids - although they never matched the promise and brilliance of their first album and some of Richard Jobson's lyrics took pretentiousnes to new heights. Listening to Scared To Dance today, it struck me how fresh and powerful it sounded. And can anyone confirm this for me, did Mike play on one of their later albums? Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: Aug. 02 2008, 03:09 Quote (Major Gowen @ Aug. 02 2008, 07:39) And can anyone confirm this for me, did Mike play on one of their later albums? Yes, he did: see here. I've never heard it though. Back to top

Dirk Star Group: Members Posts: 1331 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: Aug. 02 2008, 10:15 Quote (Major Gowen @ Aug. 02 2008, 06:39) Quote I would rank Strawberries as one of the best albums by a British band, totally underrated. Captain Sensible is/was a far better guitarist than he's given credit for. I put Strawberries in my top ten favourite albums here a few weeks ago.And Life Goes On is still one of my favourite songs ever written by anybody.I agree it`s under-rated but I think that`s mainly down to the fact that so few people have heard it.Sadly so many people have them written off as a kind of comedy punk/goth band unfortunatly.Which of course they can be at times,but then they are so much more besides as well.I`m not a guitar player by any stretch of the imagination but I love listening to the Captain play he`s way up there for me.Soloing through the verses the way he does at times he`s a real unique player.Although going back to Strawberries he does sound like he could be channeling someone we all know and love here in places on his solo from Under The Floor Again.     They`ve just been in the studio again in the last few weeks recording their first new album for about 7/8 years.Hope it gets released soon.I was very impressed with their last album Grave Disorder in 2001. Quote As Bassman said they changed their sound in the 80s, but the 'mellow' Stranglers did some great material as well. Quite agree!One of my favourite Stranglers albums is Aural Sculpture,which is just about as "pop" as you can get imo. Oh and The Skids yeah awesome stuff.Their compilation album Dunfermeline is truly essential imo if you`re into that period of music.And Mike does`nt like punk,and he plays on a Skids record??? I have to admit I did`nt know that.Stuart Adamson and "guitars like bagpipes" ay?..It`s all starting to make perfect sense..   Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: Aug. 02 2008, 11:57 Quote (Dirk Star @ Aug. 02 2008, 16:15) And Mike does`nt like punk,and he plays on a Skids record??? I have to admit I did`nt know that.Stuart Adamson and "guitars like bagpipes" ay?..It`s all starting to make perfect sense..   I found the song on youtube, and I must say it's actually really good. I can see why Mike would have played on this, it's almost like the punk version of his own music! Love the drum sound, too, very energetic. That is, as far as I can judge from this youtube quality... Back to top

Dirk Star Group: Members Posts: 1331 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: Aug. 02 2008, 12:27 That Iona track was right towards the end of the band`s career and it`s also on their compilation album Dunfermline.There could`nt have been many people around who had fairlights back in 1981 so maybe that`s part of the reason why Mike`s on it as well?It is a pretty good track though I agree.I seem to remember when The Skids recorded that album though there was loads of band tensions and unease going on.Especialy between Jobson and Adamson who were like poles apart as far as personality`s went.Not long after Jobson formed The Armoury Show and then went into TV/Acting etc.And then of course Adamson formed Big Country whose album The Crossing has got to be a strong contender for one of the best debut albums by a band ever for me.Up there with Rattuss Novergicus..   Back to top

Dirk Star Group: Members Posts: 1331 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: Aug. 02 2008, 12:43 Well I`ve just had a quick look on wikipedia and apparently the only track Stuart Adamson plays on on that album is also Iona.I guess the "band tensions" were even greater than I remebered back then.He was`nt even in the band for most of it... Back to top

Major Gowen Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Aug. 02 2008, 23:19 I have a Skids compilation called Sweet Suburbia and I’ve just discovered Iona is on it – yes, it sounds like Mike’s cup of tea, bagpipes, Celtic influences, that sort of thing. And Big Country certainly ploughed a similar furrow, when I first heard The Crossing I instantly thought of guitars sounding like bagpipes. I did read somewhere they got fed up of people saying that, but that's what it sounded like! Going back to Strawberries, it’s interesting that Killing Joke sued Nirvana over Come As You Are, because I think Cobain & co must have got it from Life Goes On, the opening guitar riff is identical. I first heard Strawberries only a few years ago, I have to admit before I’d dismissed The Damned like Dirk Star says, a comedy band. Listening to that album changed my mind – after Sensible left they went into the goth sound a lot more, but Strawberries seems them at an interesting crossroads, still capable of a few punkesque rave-ups but also songs like The Dog, which is a real epic! Back to top

Dirk Star Group: Members Posts: 1331 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: Aug. 03 2008, 09:06 That early 80`s period of The Damned was their best for me MG.The Black Album gets pretty close to reaching the same heights as Strawberries.And there were some superb singles and ep`s released during that time as well.They were very inventive certainly but then they`d also developed into being pretty good musicians as well.Both Scabies and Sensible had progressed a million miles from their earlier days.While Paul Gray coming in on bass who`d played in UFO etc was another big plus for them.I agree they were certainly still capable of the punkesque rave-ups as you say.But some of the playing on the high octane breakneck speed of Ignite for instance is just completely mind boggling I think.You know it`s like Hendrix meets The Who or something and then gets put into overdrive.Plus they were capable of writing some damn fine pop tunes back then as well Generals,Stranger On The Town,Bad Time For Bonzo.Oh and Dozen Girls!!I defy anyone to be able to resist singing along to "he`s alright and he don`t care..he`s got thermal underwear." Surely a masterpiece in it`s own right. They were never quite the same when The Captain left although Phantasmagoria was a very good album despite it`s more commercial leanings.I was always more thrilled and excited by The Captain`s solo material back then.And then there was a big falling out between Vanian and Scabies when Scabies kind of conned the rest of the band into making a Damned album and then disappearing with the money or something.I don`t know I`m not too sure on the entire story of what happened there but I know it`s pretty unlikely that Vanian and Scabies will ever make up over it.Beisdes which they have Sensble back in the band now and has been for some time.I just wish they would record a bit more because they`re still very good I think.Imo there`s nobody quite like them at all. Did Killing Joke really sue Nirvana then?Mmm intereting that Dave Grohl plays the drums on their comeback album from a couple of years back.So what about Boston`s More Than A Feeling then and Smells Like Teen Spirit?I wonder if any money changed hands there as well?I agree the bass line of Life Goes On is pretty close to 80` by Killing Joke.And then very close to Come As You Are from Nirvana undoubtably.But then that same bass line as it appears on Life Goes On is also kind of a slightly extended version of the riff from Day Tripper.Heh heh I read that last bit on youtube a few weeks ago,so it must be true..     Back to top

Dirk Star Group: Members Posts: 1331 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: Aug. 03 2008, 12:14 I forgot to say there`s kind of a roundabout link between The Damned and Mike Oldfield as well.Just prior to the band releasing their Strawberries album in 1982 they released a single called Lovely Money which featured the vocal/narrative talents of Vivian Stanshall.He`s kind of playing the role of a Tower Of London tour guide on it or something.And it was partly done as a statement against some of the overt national pride that was creeping in over here after The Falklands War.The last couple of minutes of the song is basicaly just Vivian going off on a whole pun/joke fuelled semi-conscious tirade while the band wig out in the background.So you get lines like.."Yes Sir..Beefeaters will accept bacon burgers"...And the classic.."How old are the mummified remains???..Well they`re er 14 to 15...They sawed his leg off and counted the rings you jerk" I think some cd versions of Strawberries may feature Lovely Money as a bonus track I`m not sure.That`s one of the problems with The Damned due to all the defunct/bought out record labels they had their discography is a real nightmare.You know if I was getting into them now I honestly would`nt know where to start.Plus I don`t think a lot of their material is quite suited to compact disc anyway.Or it could at least do with some very clever people having a go at the whole re-mastering side of it.There`s probably not enough money to be made from doing that though unfortunatly.Strawberries itself for instance just takes on a whole new dimension when you listen to it on vinyl.They had a really eccentric and partly old fashioned way of recording stuff back then.They`d always utilise the whole left & right speaker thing as much as possible.Guitars would kind of fly in and out from out of nowhere sometimes.Led meters going into the red in the studio was something to be ignored if it sounded right to those guys.They were certainly leftfield for the kind of synth and saccahrine filled airwaves of the time.I just think on the cd version you lose way too many frequencies which I don`t notice as much with other peoples albums sometimes.Plus with the vinyl version of Strawberries you got a strawberry scented lyric sheet.And it still bloody stinks to this very day in fact 26 years later... Back to top

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