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Harmono Group: Members Posts: 759 Joined: May 2005 Posted: Nov. 25 2005, 19:22 Hi. I couldnt find the original topic about famous fans so I write here. Rammstein wikipedia mentions that Rammstein-singer/frontman Till Lindeman likes Mikes music! This is cool since I like them both, Rammstein is actually the only metal music I listen to! Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: Nov. 26 2005, 04:15 I think that's pretty cool, I like Rammstein musically even though I find their lyrics to be bottom drawer (like we say in German ). Rammstein is not really metal at all though, so it's understandable that you would like them even if you don't like any metal! Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1548 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: Nov. 26 2005, 06:42 "Bück dich, bück dich" I find that is true poetry   Pretty lousy band btw... But cool he likes Mike Grúss Gött!! -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

The Bell(end) Group: Members Posts: 1051 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Nov. 26 2005, 08:53 haha cool    I like what i've heard of Rammstein, I like thrash, death and heavy metal so I guess that makes them more suited to my tastes, THE ENERGY!! Just like Mike's music, they both have energy, maybe what Till likes Mike   -------------- When the night's on fi-ya, do you need love's arms to hold yew? :D Back to top

torbenyj Group: Members Posts: 377 Joined: Jan. 2003 Posted: Nov. 26 2005, 18:50 Hi I don't care - Rammstein are great tyj Back to top

Tansy Group: Members Posts: 416 Joined: April 2005 Posted: Dec. 08 2005, 02:43 I'ts interesting to know that M.O has fellow artistes who like his music. But from reading some of the remarks posted here - now I'm curious to know what Rammstein really sound like for myself,so will listen to them and say what I think. Back to top

TubularBelle Group: Members Posts: 1487 Joined: April 2004 Posted: Dec. 08 2005, 04:16 Don't do it Sandra, they're awful, and if they are not heavy metal then I don't know what category they come under, is it thrash? My son likes them but they would give me a headache. They did, 'We are living in America', don't know if that is the name of the song but it is a line from it. Interesting though that he likes Mikes music. -------------- I hate getting up early. I didn't even realise there were two 6 o'clocks in one day! Back to top

The Bell(end) Group: Members Posts: 1051 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Dec. 08 2005, 04:38 Quote (TubularBelle @ Dec. 08 2005, 09:16) 1) Don't do it Sandra, they're awful, and if they are not heavy metal then I don't know what category they come under, is it thrash? 2) Interesting though that he likes Mikes music. Response to 1: Indeed, not for all!   It isn't thrash, or death, it's too mainstream, not black metal either, probably heavy/nu metal   Response to 2: Another artsist that likes Mike's music is the Dutch guitar wizard Marcel Coenen, he lists Mike and one of his influences on his myspace profile   My friends were shocked, they thought MO made 'gramps' music, so Jack and Josh now respect MO as a guitarist, if nothing else   -------------- When the night's on fi-ya, do you need love's arms to hold yew? :D Back to top

Tansy Group: Members Posts: 416 Joined: April 2005 Posted: Dec. 08 2005, 05:01 LOL Tracy (the don't do it they're awful bit). This is beginning to sound like some of the music my daughter has just taken a liking to(she of the blue/black hair ATM). The lyrics can barely be understood & cannot remember any band names of them,but some I quite liked.Myself & daughter have been debating on what comes under Thrash,Death Metal and so on.Seems to me that quite a few people,have differing views on this? Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: Dec. 08 2005, 08:04 Quote (TubularBelle @ Dec. 08 2005, 10:16) and if they are not heavy metal then I don't know what category they come under, is it thrash? Pop. Back to top

TubularBelle Group: Members Posts: 1487 Joined: April 2004 Posted: Dec. 08 2005, 16:38 Hardly Pop, you're joking right?! I suppose if you took the voice away and replaced it with Britney, you might get something that sounds like Pop, the music does seems to be more mainstream than other Death Metal or Heavy Metal bands. I don't follow them enough to have an informed opinion. -------------- I hate getting up early. I didn't even realise there were two 6 o'clocks in one day! Back to top

The Bell(end) Group: Members Posts: 1051 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Dec. 08 2005, 17:02 Quote (TubularBelle @ Dec. 08 2005, 21:38) Hardly Pop, you're joking right?! The music does seems to be more mainstream than other Death Metal or Heavy Metal bands. Pop - anything that is popular, no? Pop is not a genre, it is the name given to the mainstream music, that may be from several genres. Am I correct? If I am, Rammstein is pop They wouldn't have much respect within the metal community, nobody that turns mainstream does, e.g Metallica -------------- When the night's on fi-ya, do you need love's arms to hold yew? :D Back to top

TubularBelle Group: Members Posts: 1487 Joined: April 2004 Posted: Dec. 08 2005, 17:16 Yes I agree with that, but if that is the case then you shouldn't call anything Pop because it is not a genre. Have had this discussion before. So Rammstein is not well received in the Metal camp then? -------------- I hate getting up early. I didn't even realise there were two 6 o'clocks in one day! Back to top

Harmono Group: Members Posts: 759 Joined: May 2005 Posted: Dec. 08 2005, 18:55 Rammstein is not well received in the metal camp because they have some sence of humour.   ok just my opinion. They havent really changed much since their first album so they havent turned to mainstream- they have always been popular. Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 06:45 I was being serious. They're a pop band in the guise of a modern hard rock band. It's a very clever act they're playing - and people fall for it. Musically, they're not even anywhere close to metal. Back to top

The Bell(end) Group: Members Posts: 1051 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 06:45 Quote (TubularBelle @ Dec. 08 2005, 22:16) Yes I agree with that, but if that is the case then you shouldn't call anything Pop because it is not a genre. So Rammstein is not well received in the Metal camp then? Well, it IS pop, because it's popular, pop stands for popular music, no? In 1973/4, Tubular bells and Hergest ridge were pop, but symphonic/progressive rock as their genres, if they can be catagorised   Pop has almost become a genre, because all of the songs are similar. Take 'man in the rain' and 'moonlight shadow' as two examples of Mike Oldfield pop Even thrash/death metal bands that are considered the best in the world are not popular, in a mainstream way. Rammstein's music is more accessible than that of Slayer, Machinehead, Pantera etc. They make it this way, they direct their music in an attempt to achieve a wide audience, THAT is why they are not greatly respected at 'metal camp' [Edit] Well said Holger, we posted at the same time -------------- When the night's on fi-ya, do you need love's arms to hold yew? :D Back to top

TubularBelle Group: Members Posts: 1487 Joined: April 2004 Posted: Dec. 09 2005, 20:38 Would you include System of the Down in that arena? They seem a lot more assessible than other 'heavy' bands too. Saw them on the Euro MTV awards last night. -------------- I hate getting up early. I didn't even realise there were two 6 o'clocks in one day! Back to top

Afgyhi Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: May 2003 Posted: Dec. 10 2005, 06:15 Hi all! I think Rammstein is great! Saw them live once, and that was really cool! It is hard to put their music in a special catagory. I would say it is pop, but then again, like mentioned before by people here, pop isn't really a musical catagory. When I saw them live they played on a hardrock festival after black sabbath had played... maybe its hardrock? Hehe. I really don't know! But their music is great!   -------------- Crises! Crises!! Back to top

The Bell(end) Group: Members Posts: 1051 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Dec. 11 2005, 09:26 I like what I've heard of Rammstein (three tracks, that I don't remember the names of) I would say that System of a down and Rammstein are hard rock, yes I enjoyed Rammstein's role in xXx too -------------- When the night's on fi-ya, do you need love's arms to hold yew? :D Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: Dec. 11 2005, 14:00 Quote (The Bell(end) @ Dec. 09 2005, 06:45) Well, it IS pop, because it's popular, pop stands for popular music, no? The definition of pop I've always heard is something like it being a low-quality version of rock. It being low-quality, I tend to stay away from anything called pop. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

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