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Topic: Rare Film, Kevin Ayers & The Whole World

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Airborne

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Posted: May 29 2007, 15:01

This is amazing. Never seen it before.

Mike aged 17

Where was it found?
Can anyone translate the French to English?

olracUK

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Posted: May 29 2007, 17:59

Blinding - hifiguru does it again.

Mike does look a little "WTF?" about the filming. A great slice of early 70's vintage. When did the Velvet Underground start using an oboe in their band? Which group added that instrument to a rock band first?

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nushky

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Posted: May 29 2007, 19:04

beginning is :
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The concert at "mutualite" was not a concert like any other. Organized for the benefit of south america political
prisoners, especially *xxx*, it carried a special political meaning. Among the participants where 2 french bands :
Komintern and Mahajune (?), 2 english bands : Kevin Ayers' Whole World and Edgar brouhton band. ACtually only Komintern
and Kevin Ayers performed on stage this evening

then the interview (the beginning being rather silly) :
Kevin: It's important to have ideas to be awake. Otherwise, without ideas, we are just sleeping, which is crap, and it's like
being dead.
Interviewer: ok I'm fair haired while you are brown haired, it's a difference you can't deny.
Kevin: it's a difference since one says it's white or black and ...
Int: actually there's a difference between white and black ..
Kevin: well no, there's a difference because one says there's a difference, although there isn't really one
Int: but if you deny every difference, then everything is the same
Kevin: yes, exactly
... to be continued

Hifiguru

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Posted: May 30 2007, 08:47

actually i found it from http://www.ina.fr/ where is full program in online video...so i captured only that part to tube.
Search kevin ayers and click ok and you get 3 videos in result..one of them is that where tube clip is from.

There is also pretty interesting stuff and live performances about Robert Wyatt (soft machine), Pink Floyd etc..all from early 70s

Let me know if its possible to save full stream into hdd because i would like to collect those programs but i dont bother to screen record them all.

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Posted: May 30 2007, 18:22

Great video thanks Hifiguru

. Psychedelia at its very best

, yep a worthy rival to The Velvet Underground or The Doors. What was the track KA&TWW were playing, it's not one I know. Does anyone have a full English translation of the dialogue, as my parlez vous Francais is a little lacking. BTW does anyone know what happened to The Edgar Broughton Band that evening (another favourite band ), why they didn't appear on stage.

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I'm going slightly mad,
It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad

If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come.

I'm challenging taboos surrounding mental health

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Posted: May 31 2007, 05:57

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What was the track KA&TWW were playing, it's not one I know.

The track is called 'Why are we sleeping'.
In 1974 it's been recorded on the album 'Confessions of Dr. Dream' when Mike already had left the band.

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Hifiguru

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Posted: May 31 2007, 09:59

Quote (oblique @ May 31 2007, 05:57)

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What was the track KA&TWW were playing, it's not one I know.

The track is called 'Why are we sleeping'.
In 1974 it's been recorded on the album 'Confessions of Dr. Dream' when Mike already had left the band.

you can also listen this song live version bbc recording from year 72 with Mike in it...if you dont own this recording.

http://boomp3.com/m/ef636c0401d3

Mike plays part of TB guitar solo in half way of song

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-Ommadawn Limited 2010 #065
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-Platinum Limited 2012 #316
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-Five Miles Out 2013 Limited LP #116
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Posted: May 31 2007, 17:16

Quote (Hifiguru @ May 31 2007, 13:59)

Quote (oblique @ May 31 2007, 05:57)

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What was the track KA&TWW were playing, it's not one I know.

The track is called 'Why are we sleeping'.
In 1974 it's been recorded on the album 'Confessions of Dr. Dream' when Mike already had left the band.

Thanks again Hifiguru, where do you keep finding these rarities???

I don't have WAWS MY Kevin Ayers collection currently consists of a Best of compilation, Whatevershebringswesing, and also Shooting at The Moon, need to get some more, it was a neighbour Bob who got me listening to KA, sadly Bob had MS and passed away aged 44.

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I'm going slightly mad,
It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad

If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come.

I'm challenging taboos surrounding mental health

"Part time hippy"

I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS

BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!!

Hifiguru

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Posted: May 31 2007, 17:23

Quote (moonchildhippy @ May 31 2007, 17:16)

Quote (Hifiguru @ May 31 2007, 13:59)

Quote (oblique @ May 31 2007, 05:57)

Quote

What was the track KA&TWW were playing, it's not one I know.

The track is called 'Why are we sleeping'.
In 1974 it's been recorded on the album 'Confessions of Dr. Dream' when Mike already had left the band.

audio song is from original cd http://www.rainer-muenz.de/oldfield/pic/guest/bbc.jpg
which can be bought from various stores i think

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-Hergest Ridge Limited 2010 #017
-Ommadawn Limited 2010 #065
-Incantations Limited 2011 #003
-Platinum Limited 2012 #316
-QE2 Limited 2012 #112
-Opening Ceremony London 2012 #61
-Five Miles Out 2013 Limited LP #116
-Crises 2013 Limited LP #259

Ugo

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Posted: May 31 2007, 17:37

Quote (Hifiguru @ May 31 2007, 23:23)

audio song is from original cd http://www.rainer-muenz.de/oldfield/pic/guest/bbc.jpg
which can be bought from various stores i think

... Or maybe is it from this one, which is the one I've got and which is basically the same thing as above?

I found it on an Italian online shop, but it's available mostly everywhere... such as here.

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Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian

Airborne

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Posted: May 31 2007, 18:04

Quote (oblique @ May 31 2007, 10:57)

The track is called 'Why are we sleeping'.

They also play a bit of "We Did It Again"

What you hear in the link above is a modified version of WAWS from what was played in 1970. Mike had more influence over arrangements, so early workings of Tubular Bells surfaced in his solo spot. Note also that the very beginning is so close to the beginning of Incantations that I cannot help thinking this isn't an accident. When I first heard it, before it was available on CD, I nearly fell of my chair.

Kevin Ayers never toured with an orchestra, partly due to cost, but also because David Bedford broke his leg!

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Posted: June 01 2007, 05:38

Quote (Ugo @ May 31 2007, 21:37)

Quote (Hifiguru @ May 31 2007, 23:23)

audio song is from original cd http://www.rainer-muenz.de/oldfield/pic/guest/bbc.jpg
which can be bought from various stores i think

... Or maybe is it from this one, which is the one I've got and which is basically the same thing as above?

I found it on an Italian online shop, but it's available mostly everywhere... such as here.

Thanks for that Hifiguru and Ugo. Yep I've seen this CD before, now I just need to find work, so much music to get, currently have five job apps pending , and a sixth I'm applying for.

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I'm going slightly mad,
It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad

If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come.

I'm challenging taboos surrounding mental health

"Part time hippy"

I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS

BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!!

Hifiguru

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Posted: July 21 2007, 13:17

Since youtube video is not exist here is original MOV stream file so people who missed it, can watch it still.

Edit: (existing file was out of sync but here is original MOV stream):

http://rapidshare.com/files....ar.html (23mb)

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-TB Limited ultimate edition 2009 (still sealed)
-Hergest Ridge Limited 2010 #017
-Ommadawn Limited 2010 #065
-Incantations Limited 2011 #003
-Platinum Limited 2012 #316
-QE2 Limited 2012 #112
-Opening Ceremony London 2012 #61
-Five Miles Out 2013 Limited LP #116
-Crises 2013 Limited LP #259

Atane

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Posted: July 22 2007, 06:23

Thanks a lot!

Hifiguru

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Posted: July 07 2008, 18:33

Quote (Hifiguru @ May 30 2007, 08:47)

im bored...so i quote myself.

has anyoen bought or know how to buy those videos from that french site`?
i can see as much as if you buy full program from there you can get it in decent resolution...id like to buy atleast that one with MO in it but cannot understand french that much.

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-TB Limited ultimate edition 2009 (still sealed)
-Hergest Ridge Limited 2010 #017
-Ommadawn Limited 2010 #065
-Incantations Limited 2011 #003
-Platinum Limited 2012 #316
-QE2 Limited 2012 #112
-Opening Ceremony London 2012 #61
-Five Miles Out 2013 Limited LP #116
-Crises 2013 Limited LP #259

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Posted: July 12 2018, 19:09

Updated link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9WunsNt51U

Here are a few other versions, including Mike on guitar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liJMGQRaLrw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9eH-Mz4QBA

The last one has a great guitar solo that Mike later used in Tubular Bells!

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