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Korkesova Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: Nov. 2005 Posted: Jan. 08 2006, 15:50 I dont known, why i need Mikes music listen. I am dependent on her. I must her time after time listen. It is disorder ? Im crasy? Is his music so suggestive ? Is likely fall in love with Mikes Music ? It someone know ? -------------- it's never too late for me Back to top

The Bell(end) Group: Members Posts: 1051 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Jan. 08 2006, 17:00 I am trying to break my dependency on Mike's music, not give up Mike Oldfield though, of course!! But whenever I change to something else, it is never on the same level as Mike, in terms of my involvement. Any recommendations, people that managed to do this? I like Pink Floyd, and liked others but got bored/tired of them (Enya, JMJ) I want to prove that I can, but it is very difficult, to not listen to Mike Oldfield at all, and the odd track pops in here and there (shame on me   ) There just doesn't seem to be a better/equal/remotely close alternative. Music has become a big part of my daily life, and that is because of Mike Oldfield, before I listened to tracks as if they had to be rationed. *thumbs up to Mike* -------------- When the night's on fi-ya, do you need love's arms to hold yew? :D Back to top

bee Group: Members Posts: 1227 Joined: Jan. 2004 Posted: Jan. 08 2006, 18:14 I think that lots of us here feel the same way. I certainly do. The music has an attraction like no other. Some come close, Pink Floyd, Enya you mentioned, also Moby, Air and Vangelis, lots of others. But I think there's something in Mike's music that speaks to us on a different level and if you are receptive to it, then you can't ignore it. So I'd say just go with it and see where it takes you. I sometimes try to listen to other things more and give it a bit of space. I enjoy music of all kinds and listen every day as much as possible. But then from out of nowhere I realise I need to hear something by Mike. Or I hear a piece by him unexpectedly and it's as if a whole well of emotions and feelings have been uncovered. And I feel right again. It all sounds a bit extreme but 'tis true for me. I think we are the lucky ones, those that know about his music. And it's good to discuss and hear other people's views relating to Mike Oldfield here on this site. I really appreciate it because I don't know anyone who feels the same as I do about a bunch of wonderful sounds. I saw this quote the other day, by John  F. Kennedy...( btw I am not a political person at all and have no strong views either way, but really liked these words)... "A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on." And to me Mike's music is packed full of ideas that will live on forever. -------------- ....second to the right and straight on till morning.... You heard me before Yet you hear me again Then I die Till I call me again Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: Jan. 08 2006, 20:29 I've listened to Mike since Incantations was released, and though I play lots and lots of different music, ranging from classical to Celtic to prog/rock to folk, I never go too long without spinning something of Mike's. Incantations sounds as good to me now as all those years ago--nearly twice as long as some of you have been on your earth walk. Gee, how scary is that? For me, downright frightening! Maybe it is experience laid upon experience that makes Mike's music so precious--to me, anyway. A few experiences that may have contributed to my addiction: Listening to Crises a lot in Peru (and the earthquake turned out to be one), and associating it with looking up at Huyana Picchu (the monolith backdropped against the Inkaic structures at Machu Picchu) moments before climbing it; building a tubular bell sand castle with family and friends at Assateague Island T3L era; dancing to Inc Part I in the moonlight with the horses; tooling around Byron Bay, Oz with Guitars and a good friend; birthing my three children with Mike's music close by. And then, the myriad of everyday experiences that can be as basic as driving along with Inc and watching the moon. There is just something about it--his chords reach our chords in very special and personal ways.   You may never get over Mike's music, but then again, why bother? Let the happy memories pile up! Of our senses, smell is most closely tied to memory. I think that music must be right up there, too--after all, they use music therapy to help dementia patients. There will be times when you don't listen to it as much as at other times, but it will probably become like an old friend capable of new surprises. Even after years of listening, it is possible to get something new out of it and to find a different way to appreciate it. So...relax, and let the experiences flow. As Bee says, we are indeed the lucky ones. -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: Jan. 08 2006, 21:52 Quote (Inkanta @ Jan. 08 2006, 20:29) I've listened to Mike since Incantations was released, and though I play lots and lots of different music, ranging from classical to Celtic to prog/rock to folk, I never go too long without spinning something of Mike's. Incantations sounds as good to me now as all those years ago--nearly twice as long as some of you have been on your earth walk. Gee, how scary is that? For me, downright frightening! I've got nothing to say, as you pretty much said what I think on the topic. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 04:05 I understand that worry about being dependent, but I think that as well as being related to the quality of the music (which is undeniable), it's also related to the kind of person I am. I tend to be an 'all or nothing' sort of person. When I discovered Wagner in the 1970s, everything else seemed unsatisfactory. The same happened when I discovered Dylan, Elgar, etc. (and of course Mike Oldfield). That same tendency is still with me, except that I slide from one obsession to another. When I'm in an Oldfield phase, nothing else will do. When I'm in a Wagner phase, I want Wagner, Wagner and more Wagner. And so it goes on. After all these years I can't imagine changing such a fundamental aspect of my personality much, but really I'm not sure I want to. During the obsessive phases I feel I get so close to the music that it becomes a crucial part of the essential me. Even if I never listened to Mike Oldfield again, I'd know that I still had most of his music stashed away somewhere inside me. So I'd say, in response to this post - enjoy yourself and be glad that you're getting so much from the music! Soak it up while this enthusiasm is there, and it will enrich your life immeasurably. Back to top

Ian Too Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: Aug. 2005 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 05:01 I think there is a simple reason for this: When he is well motivated, there simply isn't a single composer with the emotive power of Mike Oldfield. There are other artists with with power, but Mike's is an order of magnitude higher in intensity and he had the bravery to go where his muse willed. Unfortunately, had is the operative word and that is what makes me so angry with the man. Over the years he has compromised his music bit by bit, until now he has conceded so much that he's reduced to imitation and covers which lack even the simple beauty of the original. Of all the world's artists, Mike should not be content to follow trends, but set them. He should plough his own furrow - alone, if need be - like he did in the early days, because when you are as individual as Mike, you have to walk proudly: elbows out and chin up. You have to blow your trumpet for all it's worth, because otherwise they will beat you down. -------------- (-: Ian :-) Currently reading: What Remains to be Discovered by John Maddox Also doing far too much decorating than is good for one Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1548 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 05:07 *former place of useless message*   erm.. I was in a bad mood this morning   -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

Sonilink Group: Members Posts: 393 Joined: Jan. 2005 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 07:12 Mike is just one the rare harmless drugs! -------------- Take the Time Back to top

arron11196 Group: Members Posts: 826 Joined: April 2005 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 09:05 Quote (The Bell(end) @ Jan. 08 2006, 22:00) I am trying to break my dependency on Mike's music, not give up Mike Oldfield though, of course!! But whenever I change to something else, it is never on the same level as Mike, in terms of my involvement. Any recommendations, people that managed to do this? I like Pink Floyd, and liked others but got bored/tired of them (Enya, JMJ) I want to prove that I can, but it is very difficult, to not listen to Mike Oldfield at all, and the odd track pops in here and there (shame on me   ) There just doesn't seem to be a better/equal/remotely close alternative. Music has become a big part of my daily life, and that is because of Mike Oldfield, before I listened to tracks as if they had to be rationed. *thumbs up to Mike* Have you tried Enigma or Vangelis? I often find that Vangelis' compositional style is quite similar in concept to Mike's stuff - albeit synthy and a little more evenly structured. Enigma produces some fairly respectable stuff too - if Sexual music offends you, then I'd try 'The Cross of Changes' over 'MCMXC AD' -------------- Arron J Eagling Everyone's interpretation is different, and everyone has a right to that opinion. There is no "right" one, I am adding this post to communicate my thoughts to share them with like-minded souls who will be able to comment in good nature. (insert the last 5 mins of Crises here) Back to top

Ian Too Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: Aug. 2005 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 09:41 Quote (Piltdownboy on horseback 22 @ Jan. 09 2006, 05:07) Even before I started reading (and read the positive bit) I knew there was going to be some very negative notes in Ians post... Maybe I have special powers, but I might be wrong   Are you trying to drive me away with this personal attack? Do you feel you have right of approval over who or what posters on Tubular Net have to say? If not, then what was the point of those fatuous remarks? I merely expressed the perfectly legitimate point of view that Mike has sold himself out and the very, very positive wish that Mike would follow his muse and not try to just provide music he thinks people want. Why do you even want a happy happy forum with no intelligence and no passion? Real life and real music have 'negative' notes, so get used to them. -------------- (-: Ian :-) Currently reading: What Remains to be Discovered by John Maddox Also doing far too much decorating than is good for one Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 10:12 Could I politely suggest that the originator of this thread, Korkesova, expressed a very genuine concern about the obsessive enjoyment of Mike's music, to which there have been some interesting and sensitive responses. It seems perverse and unnecessary for such a thread to be hijacked by yet another assault on Mike's supposed lack of creativity. If you want to talk about that, then would you please start another thread? Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1548 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 10:22 I'm sorry, should have explained myself better... I just thought that I didn't want to get to that subject again, because that's not what this thread was about... But I see that AlanD said that too... But, nevermind... let's get back to subject!! Sorry   My sincere apologies -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

tubular_trekkie Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 11:33 My advice: try listening to some Enigma - particularly 'Le Roi est Mort, Vive Le Roi' or 'The Screen Behind the Mirror'. They're both hauntingly beautiful, seductive CDs that are extremely addictive. Or perhaps a little Supertramp? Or Coldplay? I find I go through phases of playing nothing but MO and then alternate those with playing stuff that is anything but MO. Variety is the spice of life!   -------------- "The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future." - from 'Collected Sayings of Muad'Dib' by the Princess Irulan Back to top

DarkFeline Group: Members Posts: 144 Joined: Oct. 2005 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 12:29 Ditto with Alan D. I'm glad that I see others recommend Enigma, which I think is a fabulous choice! I sorta rotate anywhere from Jarre's and Kraftwerk's electronic to Mike's rock and pop to Eno's ambient to Enigma's new age to Gorillaz' Britpop to even Aqua's bubblegum pop... xD -------------- Who's your mummy, where she go? Back to top

Korkesova Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: Nov. 2005 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 12:45 Thank you very much everyone. Regrettably I haven´t any friends with who I could talk to about MO music. My english isnt perfect, I translate everything with a compiler but Im really glad that I can talk to with you. I cant represent my imagines so good like you. Maybe my interest in Mike give me lessons in english:) or anybody from you can speak czech? -------------- it's never too late for me Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1767 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 12:57 Mike's music is geniunely sympathetic and brilliant. I listen to his early albums at least once a month and I've done so for 20 years. The music sounds better every time. I never tire. I don't worry. Some people around me think it's quite annyoing, but it's just not my problem! His later albums (Post HO) is not my cup of tea at all. To me TSODE sums up all that was shit about the 90s. Still I can't bring myself to really dislike it. There's something too sympathetic about his music! Lars T -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1548 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 13:07 Quote (tubular_trekkie @ Jan. 09 2006, 11:33) Or perhaps a little Supertramp? Or Coldplay? Great to see Supertramp being mentioned... Very nice band (and especially their very unknown debut LP)   The music sure can be very addicting... I always have periods (not those women have) when I play nothing but Mike... and then for a period not so much... but then it hits you again like flu can, but then in a nice way   -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 14:00 Quote (Korkesova @ Jan. 09 2006, 17:45) Regrettably I haven´t any friends with who I could talk to about MO music. Has anything like this ever happened to you before, or is Mike Oldfield the first artist whose work seems so important to you? Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Jan. 09 2006, 18:09 I can say that Mike's music, has helped me through some of the most difficult times in my life   . 1983 I seem to remember was perhaps the start of some difficult teenage years for me, I remember Moonlight Shadow being a favourite song of that year.    The following year I remember I got into the music of Queen in a big way.  It wasn't until I was about 24/25 I really became a fan of Mike's music. Last year I had some dentistry done to remove some overgrown gums, prone to swelling and pain, they also looked unsightly too, because of this I found it difficult to speak, as I was embarrassed by my teeth/gums, I would  try and keep them hidden.  It took me many years to finally get the dentistry done, such was my fear of dentists, luckily I went to one of the top London teaching hospitals.   During the dentistry I decided to play Incantations on full blast, as I wanted to be as chilled out as I possibly could, I also smoked a few joints before too . As the dentistry was such a success, I feel this had intensified my love of Mike's music .  If the dentistry had gone wrong I could have ended up with a strong dislike of Mike's music, but thankfully I love Mike's music even more. I have happy memories of driving to Herefordshire last summer, as we got nearer to Kington I had Hergest Ridge loaded into the car CD player.  Such happiness staying in Kington and visiting The Ridge   , have decided to try and make this an annual event.   Need to get money together, for this year, as '06 I find myself without work and struggling to find employment. I do like to listen to Mike's music virtually every day, but I do like to vary Mike's music with that of other artists.  My musical tastes can vary from Bob Marley to Iron Maiden or Metallica, (about the only metal I do listen too now, when I was 18 I was into "Heavy Metal") depending on my mood.  I have my perrenial favourites such as Queen, Stones, Zeppelin and Floyd. I've been listening to The Doors over the last few days.   I find I have to listen to at least one Mike album within a 48 hour period.  My husband blames my "obsession" with Mike for our separation, but I feel there are far more significant factors for this. PS am currently listening to debut album by Jules Gray -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

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