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Posted: Sep. 03 2011, 11:13

Last night's round of music documentaries and performances on BBC4 - surely it's only a matter of time before someone thinks to give Mike a go - had one of those passing references that I've not been able to follow up.  Rockfield Studios is one of those names that jumps out once in a while, and why not...
http://www.rockfieldmusicgroup.com/default.asp?contentID=548

Acoustic at the BBC was the culprit and if the iPlayer is for you then you'll find the caption at 32.08 to 32.13 in the performance of Wonderwall by Noel Gallacher.  "Classic albums by Queen, Mike Oldfield, Stone Roses & Robert Plant were also recorded at Rockfield" is what the caption says.   Putting Mike Oldfield and Rockfield into search engines is not bringing up any specific works, and I don't see it in any sleeve notes or facts in the discography, but this is clearly going to be ingrained knowledge for dozens if not hundreds of of members here.  What do we owe to the Welsh air?


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Posted: Sep. 05 2011, 17:40

I don't have a concrete answer for you and I'm not sure if I've ever seen mention of it before, but I can make a guess for you.

Considering Rockfield's location (plus the fact that the studio lists Mike under the 1970s), I'd say it would most likely be Hergest Ridge or Ommadawn which was worked on there.

I know that some of the early sessions for Hergest Ridge were done at Chipping Norton and the mix was done at AIR Oxford Street, while the African drums for Ommadawn were recorded at The Manor, so there's definitely a precedent for parts of both of those albums being worked on in studios which weren't credited.

If you want me to narrow my guess down further, I'd say Ommadawn is the most likely candidate, as The Beacon wasn't terribly big and he would have been more in need of the extra space of a larger studio (which was certainly the reason for recording the African drums at The Manor). Something like recording the brass band, for example, might have led him to look for a studio near to both him and the band (who of course were based in Hereford). Ommadawn's credits miss off a number of people and places, as they were printed quite a while before the album was finished.

I've fired off an email to them to see if they can help shed any light on this - we'll see what comes of it!
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Posted: Sep. 05 2011, 20:11

I think it would have been after Ommadawn and when he had moved to Througham. He mentions a bit in his autobiography that he went to Rockfield because Queen and Elton John recorded there. He could not remember what for and didn't like the place much. He met Paul Lindsay, the engineer, there and eventually asked him to help put together a new studio.

The Hereford City Band were recorded at The Beacon, but in the lounge upstairs - away from all the technical gear in the basement studio.
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Posted: Sep. 07 2011, 13:49

I thought I had a half memory of reading about it somewhere, but then couldn't find it in any of the places I looked! My copy of Changeling's currently buried in some place or other, so that wasn't one of the places...

The answer from Rockfield is that it was around '76 - '77, but they don't have any information on what project he was working on - seems like Mike doesn't either, and maybe he never really did know exactly what it was he was doing there! Those dates definitely fit with it being post Ommadawn/pre-Incantations, though.
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Posted: Sep. 09 2011, 06:55

Thank you, gents - it might have behove me to re-read the Incantations reissue booklet as well!  That's a different quote to the one in Changeling - it's described as a visit, but I'd assume that music of some mysterious nature was played.  Perhaps Paul Lindsay or someone else from Rockfield recognised a tune or actual tape when listening to a completed work later on, but perhaps they just assumed that it had been used somewhere.  If Mike was tinkering around with something like the Piano Improvisation, for example, that might have stuck in someones's memory.

The booklet certainly implies that recording on Incantations didn't start until the Thougham studio was set up in '77, but themes therein or bits of singles may have been tried.  I think we've reached a point where we can safely say that I will never be bound by a recording contract, but I would venture that Mike would have needed to let Virgin know roughly what he was up to.  The snippets of interview in Record Collector about the fate of the master tapes led me to think that Mike is talking about the paper trail to where the recordings should, theoretically, have been stored.  Accordingly, I reckon that at one point Virgin would have had a record of what dates Mike was at Monmouth, and the working titles of anything commited to tape.

Certainly, I'm presuming that when it came to the distasteful subject of money, Mike would be accustomed to saying, "Charge it to Virgin, my good man!"  At least until the point at which Virgin said to him: "Great tour, Mike!  That'll be half a million quid, please...  Mike?  I thought you only had to do the primal scream once?"


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