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Posted: Sep. 23 2003, 15:04

"so the universal music group are lowering their cd prices by $3 in an attempt to get people to start buying cd's again.
it's a good idea, but it might be a case of too little, too late.
if anyone were asking me (and they're not, actually) i would advise the music business to do the following:
1-come up with a standardized platform for file-sharing that all of the labels would provide music to, but that would be owned by an independent 3rd party source.
something like the apple on-line store. when the record companies try to start their own on-line retail services they invariable become proprietary and greedy. at some point the record labels are going to have to realize that you can't expect people to pay a lot of money for something that they can get for free. so:
a-the price needs to come down
b-the value needs to increase
c-the product has to be easy to acquire.
2-sell cd's at two retail prices, kind of like hard-cover and paperback books. sell your basic cd for $5 or $6 with very minimal packaging, and sell an enhanced cd package for $15 that would include bonus discs and posters and free access to on-line material and discounts on concert tickets, etc. that way the casual consumer can buy a cd without it costing too much and the bigger fan can buy a more exciting and value-filled product for slightly more money.
3-stop spending insane amounts of money making records and videos.
the world doesn't need albums that cost more than $100,000 to make, and the world doesn't need videos that cost more than $50,000 to produce.
how much did it cost to make 'nevermind'? how much did the 'smells like teen spirit' video cost? expensive records and expensive videos are a waste of everyone's time and money. it's just insane that most 3 1/2 minute pop videos cost more than a 50 acre estate in north carolina.
4-stop putting out shitty records. people don't associate music with value because most record labels put out valueless music. and they know it. their goal is to get a single on the radio and then put out a crummy album that will sell on the strength of the single with no thought to artistry or artist development. they don't sign artists based on artistic merit, they sign artists if the artists look and sound like the other artists on radio and mtv, and that's a recipe for long-term musical and corporate disaster. if you consistently make a crummy product then at some point people will lose interest in you and your crummy product, and they certainly won't be willing to pay for your crummy product.
5-stop persecuting people who are music fans. people who engage in file-sharing are people who like music. you can't make people feel guilty about loving and listening to music. the record companies need to see people who engage in file-sharing as music fans and not as criminals. and then they need to try to convince people to spend a little bit of money for music (with added value) rather than downloading it for free.
record companies and rich musicians complaining about file-sharing rings terribly false with most people. i mean, how can a 14 year old who has an allowance of $5 a week feel bad about downloading music produced by multi-millionaire musicians and greedy record companies? the record companies should approach that 14 year old and say, 'hey, it's great that you love music, instead of downloading music for free why don't you try this very inexpensive service that will enable you to listen to a lot of music and also have access to unreleased tracks and ticket discounts and free merchandise?'
the record companies and the riaa have up until this point been like nero, fiddling while rome burned (or george bush, vacationing while the economy implodes...). the record companies are faced with an inescapable fact: the music business has changed and will continue to change. if the record companies can't change with the times then they will very quickly become obsolete.
whether that's a good or bad thing, it really is as simple as that.
thanks
moby"


source: "moby journal" @ http://moby.com/


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Posted: Sep. 23 2003, 18:27

words of wisdom..but will those happen, no, never..as long as there's greed

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Posted: Oct. 01 2003, 07:02

Good points, I agree....but remain sceptical on the outcome.
I shure hope they find a solution that will make everyone except the greedy music companies happy.


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Posted: Oct. 05 2003, 14:34

i think it's a good idea.it may work well...
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Posted: Mar. 26 2004, 13:37

something that fits in there:

As you see, we offer almost all of our entire productions for free download. This does not mean that the music is free, just that we feel better to kindly ask you to buy our records, than involve into the dirty business of lawyers and big greedy record business.

We think this wailing about mp3 from the major music business is nonsense. Back when we were kids with no cash we taped our favourite music from radio and from friends. Tventy years has passed, and there is no sign of less profit for the big business! A song downloaded by someone who would not have bought the record anyway, could hardly be described as a loss neither for the artist or the company. But if trading and downloading music across the web gives more people access to alternative music, maybe more people would listen to something else than the big-business commercial crap they are are pushing down our throats all day, that would be a serious loss for the big industry. And so welcome... :)

If you download our music and like it, please consider buying our records. We do not make a living on this, but it would be nice to have a buck or two now and then to invest in new hardware, and maybe make more music available. You give - we give.



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Later,

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Posted: Mar. 26 2004, 14:34

Another reason to add to my "I love Moby" list :-P

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Posted: Mar. 26 2004, 14:39

another thing they could do woild be to put out more music that isn't crap. i feel most music today is not worth that much. even good music isn't worth what they charge. in the record stores near here some examples:
quebec - Ween $26(Canadian)
anything pink floyd besides darkside of the moon is $24 - 36
i bought guitars and it cost me $28
these prices are insane i can't afford this so i try to get my music on vinyl 2nd hand.  i make less than $7 an hour and only work 1/2 hour a day so a CD costs me 4 days work. plus there's other expenses. i love music but i can't try neww music because it costs too damn much.
that whole rant seems totally unrelated now that i read it.
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