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Posted: Dec. 19 2000, 19:02

Hi! Don't ya think that these two groups have a close relationship with Mike's music...?

What d'ya think about it? smile

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Posted: Dec. 19 2000, 20:48

...doned reely thinxo...
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Posted: Dec. 28 2000, 15:51

Agreed. Pink Floyd is weeeeeeeeird (oke, their first albums then) and the rest is simply not MO style. But I'm not a pink floyd fan so.... my brother always said about pink floyd and MO: not weird enough, money back. wink But I only agree with that with Pink Floyd. smile

The alan parson's project: don't know. Never really heard songs of them, but I really don't think it is MO's style too.

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Posted: Jan. 10 2001, 13:18

Well? Maybe Floyd were the 1sts on having a 1-side theme and the other side with vocal songs...

Atom Heart Mother (1970) had a long instrumental on side 1, called as well.

Meddle (1971) had another, superb one on side 2 (for me the masterpiece from them) called Echoes.

Could it, by less loosely, influence Mike's structure of many of his 80´s albums?

I zinc of that...

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Posted: Jan. 11 2001, 05:41

Well, for me, 1973 was a great year for music (even though I wasn't alive then). Two great albums were released, one, as everyone here should know (if they don't they should be shot) was Tubular Bells, and the other one was Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. I like both, but they are not all that similar. OK, so Pink Floyd did have side-long instrumentals before Roger Waters' ego started taking control, and then they had both instrumentals and vocal tracks, but the style of their music is very different to Mike's. Although the conversation in the Africa section of Amarok has slight resemblance to Pink Floyd's albums, as they often added spoken dialogue into the background of the music, and Mike doesn't. (Unless I haven't noticed wink). But Pink Floyd's sound seems much more electronic than Mike's especially when compared to the first few albums. Also, the "songs" by Pink Floyd were not made under pressure from their record company (Harvest/Columbia I think), and Another Brick In The Wall (Part 2) still managed to reach Number One in the British singles charts. I don't know much about Pink Floyd's early albums (ie pre-Meddle) but the Roger Waters Pink Floyd (and the Dave Gilmour Pink Floyd too) are not all that similar to Mike Oldfield. That's probably why I listen to them, because I don't really like hearing the same sort of thing all the time (that's what commerical radio is for, not my CD collection). But there are a few small similarities, albeit relatively minor. To my mind.

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Posted: Jan. 11 2001, 05:49

I bought the Division Bell because I heard Marooned on the radio and thought that it sounded a bit like Mike.

I like the album very much, but as an album it isn't much like Mike's stuff.
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Posted: Jan. 22 2001, 18:26

Oh, I think more than style it´s the concept that looks so similar. The "great conception of a big thing" going out from a rock-based piece of music.

Alan Parsons assured one time that his "Jigue" from the CD "Try Anything Once", yet outside the Project, had been a little bit influenced by Mike Oldfield's Celtic-tasting compositions.

Anyway I know they are different ways... but for me, both of them are a little bit FAR from Spice Girls-Ricky Martin mad stuff.

Doned U thinxo...? wink

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Posted: Mar. 04 2001, 10:04

I personally prefer pink floyds music to mike oldfield's stuff. Alan Parsons project is probably second to Mike though. Anyway, those three musicians/bands are some of the most innovative in the history or "rock" music, I think. Alan Parsons might be a bit more pop oriented, but I really like their instrumentals. They're quite similar to MO's actually, with repeating melodies; very progressive. Pink Floyd has a really nice feeling in all their stuff, at least those from the 60s/70s. Alan Parsons produced/engineered a couple of their records.
uh...well, the reason I posted is that i want to talk a bit about the guitar work of those three groups/artists. I wouldn't say it's very similar at all. Pink Floyd's guitarist David Gilmour isn't that awesome technically, not very fast, but he manages to put lots of emotions into every note. You often get a feeling of improvising, something that is not very common in mikes music and absolutely not in alan parsons projects. The projects guitar solos are mainly played by Ian Branson (or something, at least the stuff I've heard), and you never get the feeling of jamming that makes pink floyd so awesome.
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Posted: Mar. 08 2001, 11:18

O.K., It´s Ian Bairnson.

Don´'t say so much "Branson" word around or you may be banned or murdered wink -joke-

I agree with you, except between Mike's matters... but I think you´re right. wink

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Posted: Mar. 09 2001, 09:15

Here are 3 artists with almost the same way of making music but in different levels... As I already said it in some topics, there are many links between PF and MO. The first link I see is 'Soft Machine'. These 2 groups were part of the London underground at the end of the 60's. And as everybody knows, Mike joined few years later Kevin Ayers' band, the former singer of Soft Machine... So, as they were at the same underground clubs at the same time, we can easily conclude, that they have the same influences and music atmosphere which might have interfered each others..
In the over hand, I think that Alan Parson is closer to Mike in the way of create their albumns. Of course ! just think of the vocal guests : Maggie Reilly, Jon Anderson, Barry Palmer, Anita Hegerland for Mike and Chris Rainbow, Ian Bairnson, Eric Woolfson and Lenny Zakatek for Alan ! Do you know other groups that made this sort of thing except maybe 'Art Of Noise' ?
But that's not all ! Alan Parson is engineer, producer, lyrics writer and composer as Mike. I think Alan Parson was engineer on PF's 'Dark Side Of The Moon' in 1973 ! OK, he has no instrument playing skills apart Fairlight ! One point for Mike, Yes ! smile

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Posted: June 28 2001, 17:21

Just listened to THE ALAN PARSONS PROJECT - TALES OF MYSTERY AND IMAGINATION (again...)

Just some thoughts:
- sleeve notes: "We would never in our wildest dreams have thought that at least ten albums would follow, performed by this anonymous outfit that never plays gigs!"
- Alan plays something called a 'Projectron' which might or not be a predecessor of the Fairlight CMI.
- There is a track 'Arrival'
- Listen to track 9 (Pavane). Oldfield fans might like this.

I can only highly recommend this album! -Carsten-


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Posted: Jan. 13 2002, 06:49

The compareson between Mike Oldfield and Pink Floyd is an interesting one,i think the the one track that sounds the most similar to Mike's work would be "A Sourcerful of Secrets"from the album of the same name,to the casual listener,it can be viewed as being very obscure and strange,but then so could Amarok,the thing both artists are reknowed for is doing there own things,the Floyd made music for themsevles and if everyone else like it,then good,as is the case with Mike,they both make short and long instrumental music,aswell well songs,the main difference here is that Pink Floyd were lucky to have a not one,but two genius lyric writers,and i would suggest that anyone who likes Mike,should get into the Floyd too(Even if some of it is very dark).Also 2 other Floyd tracks "Atom Heart Mother" and "Echoes" are amazing,both other 20 mins long.
The other thing is both artists are very experimental in the studio,trying all the methods out there,and if that's not good enough then coming up with new ones.
Finally,there is the David Gilmour,Mike Oldfield guitar playing question,both are amazing players,who have there own distintive sounds,and do an equaly great job on there music,but i did here a rumor a few years back,and please tell me anyone if there is any truth to this.That David Gilomur and Mike Oldfield actually jammed together in a pub somwhere in England,a long time ago?.Sounds weird to me,anyone else here about this?
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Posted: Feb. 22 2002, 16:20

Hi all,

I found very strange to see this forum here...I´m a great fan of Alan Parsons´work and I see some things that both him and Mike have got in terms of working,really...think about guest vocalists,the perfectionism that both have got...

In terms of live performances,I think they´re quite similar in a certain way.Music is the most important thing,not only one musician.

Some people who worked with Alan also worked with Mike,like Chris Thompson(on Earth Moving) and two musicians who appeared on the TB II perfomance,the Cottle brothers(Richard on keys and Laurie on bass).

Oh yes,both Alan and Mike love Fairlights!
And the projectron was a primitive Fairlight,yes.

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Posted: Feb. 26 2002, 03:43

I dunno, but I just love Meddle. Well, the first and the last track. Those other songs 2-5 are just fillers.

Did you know that Echoes fits perfectly into the last chapter of 2001 (I mean the movie)?
You really should try that sometimes.

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Posted: Feb. 28 2002, 15:47

I've now officially grown tired of the Alan Parsons Project. I'm not sure why. Pink Floyd and Mike remains my favourite artists; I very much doubt I will ever grow bored with their music. And by the way, Camel is a great band.
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Posted: Aug. 03 2002, 09:24

Quote (Thomas Andersson @ Feb. 28 2002, 16:47)
I've now officially grown tired of the Alan Parsons Project.

...I´m bored too with The Alan Parsons Project/Alan Parsons....when you discover Mike´s music....the rest is rest! ;)

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Posted: Aug. 03 2002, 09:27

Quote (Delfín @ Jan. 22 2001, 19:26)
Alan Parsons assured one time that his "Jigue" from the CD "Try Anything Once", yet outside the Project, had been a little bit influenced by Mike Oldfield's Celtic-tasting compositions.

Alan´s mother was quite into Celtic music stuff...that´s why you see some Celtic influence in some tracks from APP/AP.

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