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Posted: April 16 2004, 20:33

I just heard Guilty. It is one of the best Oldfield tracks ever!!!!!!!!! Just one question: On the single, who is playing on the long version?

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Posted: Aug. 04 2004, 22:27

Hi natertb.
I really like it too.
Do you(or anyone else) know the story behind the track???

Anyhoo,
just last week, I found the 12" in my local record store.
On the back it lists;

Drums-Chris Parker
Horn-Garry Guzio
Synth-Dana McCurdy
Sax-David Tofani
Piano-Raymond L. Chew
Bass-Neil Jason
Organ-Steve Winwood :)
Vocalists-Iris Hiskey, Patricia Deckbert, David Anchel, Phil Gavin Smith.

Hope it's of some use to you friend.
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Posted: Aug. 05 2004, 08:35

Quote (natertb @ April 16 2004, 20:33)
It is one of the best Oldfield tracks ever!!!!!!!!!

Never could stand it myself.  In many ways it was Oldfield's farewell to the epic do-it-yourself years.  When I heard it, I knew things were going to take a different course and I got ready to bid Mike adieu for a few years or so.

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Posted: Aug. 05 2004, 18:46

Quote (Cutting Edge @ Aug. 05 2004, 04:27)
Do you(or anyone else) know the story behind the track???

AFAIK "Guilty" was Mike's attempt to make a 'disco' track, according to the prevailing music trend of the period, using the same melodies and chords from Incantations. The words 'I'm guilty', always AFAIK, refer to the Exegesis therapy that Mike was going through at the time, which encouraged you to look within yourself to find the reasons for your problems. A rather NewAgey concept, I may say. :)

PS: Very interesting to find Mr. Winwood here as a session musician. :)


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Posted: Aug. 06 2004, 22:43

Hi folks, thank you.

Firstly, imo of course, this track is pure Oldfield, a one off & it has nothing to do with disco. I honestly don't see/hear it.
This track makes me want to fly, not dance.
I feel that if Incantations just kept going & developing, it would have to, for a time, get into this Guilty part.
(It also reminds me of what great taste in music I had as an 11yo kid :music: )

Thank you Ugo, yes I'm beginning to find out a little more about this Exegesis therapy thanks to this wonderful forum but I'm mostly interested in how the track developed & what went on in the session that produced such a sound.

This is all that I've found so far & it ain't much;
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recording in the USA with a New York studio rhythm section, it provoked accusation in the music press of selling out by going Disco, which Oldfield, probably correctly, suspects were motivated by ignorance and envy. The fact that the single was his biggest hit for three years seems to support that contention.
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Oldfield appeared intent on making up lost ground, further proving his reborn credentials by high-tailing it to New York's Electric Lady studios, there to begin work on his next album, Platinum, and record a new single, the pulsing disco excursion 'Guilty'

Recorded with a handful of local sessionmen, and totally unlike anything he had ever released In the past, 'Guilty' was both stunning and shocking; still, fans promptly sent it soaring into the U.K. chart, while Oldfield did his part for promotion by appearing on such bastions of British TV as Top Of The Pops and jimli fix It
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Good ol' Jimil!

I think I'll have to check out those musicians names & see if the searches come up with some more detailed insights into the Electric Lady session.

Cheers!
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Posted: Oct. 03 2004, 20:22

Personally, I love the track. I think Mike does a good job at disco :laugh: .

And the lyrics! Simple but effective.

Enjoy the track.
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Posted: Oct. 05 2004, 18:35

Yeah, 'that' Guilty is good, but...

By God's shake, have you ever heard that live version in the Knebworth festival? Just... WOW! ;)

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Posted: Oct. 22 2004, 00:55

Yes, he sure burned up the fretboard in the Knebworth version.
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Posted: Oct. 29 2004, 23:25

Is that the same Steve Winwood that did the song Valerie?
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Posted: Feb. 23 2005, 19:55

Whoa, I haven't been on here a long time and I never thought I'd get replies to this one. Thank you all. There is nothing better than listening to Incantations all the way through and then listening to Guilty. It's a totally different change of pace. (But not melody, i.e. bass line/string intro in Part 1). :)

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