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Posted: Mar. 09 2004, 05:28

this time ogg only have fun and please comment! ;)
(ogg format is playable in winamp for example)

http://rebirth.nd4spdworld.com/stuff/TheLake.ogg


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Posted: Mar. 09 2004, 10:27

Well done BOOsTER! I see you took note of my suggestion :)

A lot of the synth sounds that you created are very good. Don't know if you did the piano from scratch, but it's quite convincing. The drums sound good too

I made notes while listening to it, jotting down various times and points. Here goes! I Hope you find it useful:

0:45 - the bass sound you chose for this part is a bit inappropriate. Mike had a 'vox pad'-type sound played in paralell fifths

1:33 - the 'dawn' section missed some of the chord progressions from the original. I forget, and am not sure, what you use to sequence in the notes. Is there a limitation to allowing short note values to be programmed in? You missed the fast elaborate sounds in the background that are a development of the initial 'rippling' passage at the beginning. This gave the section less activity

2:06 - in the 6/8 section with the drums there was a lack of a clear melodic line due to the very bitty, percussive sound. The other sound that is in place of the electric guitar on the original is good at carrying the melody, but this was way down in the mix and could barely be heard. A clearer lead sound would help this section

3:13 - from this point onwards, the transcription is occaisionally a bit shaky, which leads to some unintentional dissonances. The bass sound at 3:29 has the wrong notes. Say the key was in A minor (I haven't checked what it really is) - the notes would be a, g and e rather than a, g and d. It seems a small point, but it's quite conspicious listening to it. It detracts from the minor tonality in that one thinks it should be a major key on the fourth degree of the scale

Also, the 'lonely sea' section is one of my all-time favourite bits of The Lake! The tempo you chose gave it a sense of rushing on, rather than vast expanse. It could have been a bit slower like the original

At 5:21 it seemed insanely fast! The tempo from here should really mirror that of the 'dawn' section with the drums

6:10 - as mentioned before. I like the way the piano sound's created. It's probably better to have it sounding like it should be played on a piano by having proper chords, not strumming like on a guitar. This gave it an air of ABBA!

6:55 - these chords sounded right, and I think they are played before the climax comes in. Before that though, Mike has different chords when he plays it the first time. You might have missed out this passage. In which case, this is merely a fact :)

7:18 - Knowing that the piano sound was atmospheric and better than most of the synths, you used it in the most important section. This is good, but also it seemed a bit empty. It might or might not have worked better with a fuller sounding lead synth such as the one playing the ostinato at 8:45. If you did this, it might be more in keeping with the different passages as the same instrument would be in both of them

Hope you don't find my comments too critical. I wouldn't have the dedication to do something like that! Well done again
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Posted: Mar. 09 2004, 11:05

First piano is a sampled Petrof ...with the drums these are the only sampled sounds in here :)
all the others are synth creations of my own...

and then I would like to thank you for a precise review....
I can say that I missed some things maybe...I worked by a midi file trying to clear off the mistakes.
The other problem is that my composing software doesn't support tempo change on the fly... :(

thanks for your review:)


p.s.: to your last note....7:18 - Knowing that the piano sound was atmospheric and better than most of the synths <<< I think my sparkle synth is better but you prolly don't know which one I mean with that heheh :)


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Posted: Mar. 11 2004, 07:40

:/ no more comments???  :/

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Posted: Mar. 11 2004, 19:54

.ogg is definitley the way to go.

As you know, i dont have a musical bone in my body, but i listen and know what i like, so my comments wont concentrate on tecchie stuff.

it's very difficult to capture the essence of Mikes playing, the crescendo/pause that graps a piece and takes your heart with it, but this is an excellent attempt, although a touch hollow around the middle. You'll have to listen to the musicians here about the why.

keep 'em coming! :)


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Posted: Mar. 12 2004, 06:29

I definitely want to listen to it, but it will take a while! But I'm really curious. I want to check it out.

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Posted: Mar. 12 2004, 17:56

Hey, thanks for giving us this new version BOOsTER! It may need some tempo improvements like mentioned in earlier posts, but I think the overall quality is very good! It's also a lovely piece of music, so how could I possibly resist to like it ;-)

/ Johan
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Posted: Mar. 16 2004, 06:44

thanks for all your comments:) glad for them:)

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Posted: April 17 2004, 13:20

Nice cover again, luv the lake.
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Posted: April 17 2004, 18:44

thanks bevy...glad to see you around again! :)

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Posted: June 10 2004, 08:31

Quote (BOOsTER @ Mar. 09 2004, 16:05)
The other problem is that my composing software doesn't support tempo change on the fly... :(

You use Reason, right? I get around the tempo thing by doing each part of the song as seperate song files, then I do a mixdown of each part from Reason, and edit the audio files together (often with crossfades).

Remember to leave a bar or two empty on either side of your songs for this, to let reverbs/ delays die away, etc.
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Posted: June 10 2004, 12:59

yes...I used this for the last part there...but it would be too much work to do with all of them ...:-)

anyway thanks for the trick  :cool:


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