Korgscrew
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Posted: Mar. 26 2004, 20:40 |
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Well that depends...
I don't see any harm in people extracting it for their own listening pleasure...passing it on is of course another can of worms entirely. I'll admit that a blind eye has been turned to much of that, and there are discussions here about things like Tres Lunas II and to be honest, I'm not sure what I think of the whole thing (no attack on Brandon meant here, it's just it's a popular one). Also being honest, I'll admit it's not a very clear policy - how are people meant to know what's ok to post here if the only criteria are whether one of us feels like allowing the thread to remain or not?
I'm personally very wary of discussion about cracks...any loss made on Music VR is a loss made by Mike himself, as there are no middle men, as there are with albums, for example. I think if there's one group of people Mike ought to be able to turn to for support, it ought to be his fans...of course, it should be a two way thing, and perhaps there's not enough of that...that's a huge discussion in itself really, and one that's been had many times before, so I won't open it again here. Anyway, I don't think it would really help the fragile relations with Mike if tubular.net was to become a place where ways of stealing his latest project were openly discussed, hence the edited post.
What he feels about things like Tres Lunas II, I don't know - when he was asked about fan mixes of his work in a webchat once, his response was to ask if they're any good, so who knows what his opinion is...
Certainly I don't agree with making his commercially available albums available - and I'll admit again that things have slipped the net here sometimes, so things aren't perfect.
But perhaps it's time to ask the users here...if we say that Music VR cracks here isn't on, and the same for commercially available recordings of his music, do people then feel it makes things unclear to have fan mixes allowed? What about rare tracks? There have been things like the demo of The Millennium Bell for example...
It's a hazy line...there are also the fan cover tracks - less of a copyright infringement as they're just reproducing the music and not the sound recording, but still not strictly legal. Again, we've had something of a response from Mike on the matter, and know that he was ok with Finale, but again, where do we draw the line?
For now I'm going to ask that people keep cracks to themselves, and as always, no links to readily available material...the rest we can look at a bit more closely, and I'll admit yet again that things are far from logically set out in that regard.
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