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Silver Negus Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: June 09 2008, 12:01 What could Mr Oldfield concentrate on next in an album?  Or, if it was YOU who was a musician what would you be inspired by to make a piece of music? I remember there was an April fool on here about 'Music of the Cubes'.  I would have gone a joke further and said, 'Music of The Tubes.' Back to top

Olivier Group: Super Admins Posts: 1868 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: June 09 2008, 13:30 Not a prediction, not a wish, just a thought: 2 hour Amarok eXtended "gluing and  smoothing up" the first opus, everything from the first one would be there as is but with some transitions in between abrupt changes, with crescendos leading to outbursts, etc. Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: June 09 2008, 18:21 There will never be a "next album", as Mike is retiring. Nah... seriously... he shall probably go down one of the 'easy' formulaic roads (chill out, ambient, or classical) that he's travelled on in his most recent works. What I am pretty sure he'll never do - sorry to disappoint you here, SN - is an Amarok II. He seems to love (and simultaneously hate) that album so much that he has never even considered doing a follow-up to it, and IMHO he never will... By the way, I am a musician. But there's never anything at all which can inspire me to write a piece of music, as I only write songs. And my songs take inspiration from everywhere and everything. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Bassman Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: June 09 2008, 20:10 I'm still hoping MO will do an album of covers (The Shadows... wish, wish).  It'll allow him to recharge his creative batteries, so to speak, as well as revisit his roots a bit. Or, as was suggested on another thread, a children's album-whether self-composed or his arrangements of existing tunes (or a mix of both). Either path would be awesome. Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: June 09 2008, 21:52 If one day Michael Gordon Oldfield decides to be Mike Oldfield for a while again...let him to come with his own ideas...maybe his saling days would be some sort of an inspiration to him. -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

Bassman Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: June 10 2008, 01:28 How do you mean, Tati?  Are you referring to how he sometimes seems influenced by where he's living?  For example, some say that being in close proximity to the nighttime party life in Spain may have caused MO's work to be more club-oriented. -------------- Turn up the music... Hi as Fi can go. Back to top

3Wheeler Group: Members Posts: 828 Joined: Aug. 2007 Posted: June 10 2008, 03:15 Depends whos Pulling the Strings I guess..??  Could Easily be a MOTS 2  if the record company go all ape over the sales figures...And offer a nice incentive.. There again it could be a Complete surprise and be a lot more Vocals included on a more Synth, Guitar based Album with Orchestral pieces melded into it... That would sort of appeal to the newer converts as well.. Who Knows !!  Have to wait and see..   But Guys like MO get itchy fingers and Im pretty certain It will be good whatever is released.. -------------- We're Flying Aeroflot, We've Got Reservations. Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: June 10 2008, 06:18 Quote (Bassman @ June 10 2008, 03:28) How do you mean, Tati?  Are you referring to how he sometimes seems influenced by where he's living?  For example, some say that being in close proximity to the nighttime party life in Spain may have caused MO's work to be more club-oriented. I remember reading in some article regarding MOTS that his next album would be influenced by the sea,stuff like that. -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

Matt Group: Admins Posts: 1186 Joined: Nov. 2002 Posted: June 10 2008, 12:26 Assuming he changes his mind on the retirement thing, my hope and guess would be that he would take as a starting point the positive feedback on MOTS and his current love of - and therefore inspiration from - pottering about on his boat and his current home area. I don't think he would do another full orchestral piece - been there and done that - rather he would produce a mostly instrumental work that included orchestral elements but also used electronics and electric guitars etc. What is the traditional music of the area he now lives in? Flamenco style? What sort of rythms/drum beats are traditional to that area? That would - for me - be a fascinating musical world for Mike to explore. Maybe this is all just too much wishful thinking! -------------- "I say I say I say I say, what's got three bottles and five eyes and no legs and two wheels" Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: June 10 2008, 17:24 Well... it seems to me that this discussion is going in the same direction as all of the "Mike's new album" or "Mike's next album" threads seem to go on this board... i.e., discussing what we think will Mike's next album be like gets somehow muddled (or meddled?) with what we wish Mike's next album will be like. It's two very different things, you know. And Mike has repeatedly demonstrated that he almost never makes the music we wish he'd make - he makes the music he wants to make. @ 3Wheeler, I don't think record companies have much to do with it. @ Matt, I agree with you: incorporating orchestral elements into guitar-heavy pieces is something that Mike actually did, every now and then, so he may very well do it again - if he doesn't retire. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Matt Group: Admins Posts: 1186 Joined: Nov. 2002 Posted: June 11 2008, 11:14 Quote (Ugo @ June 10 2008, 22:24) Mike has repeatedly demonstrated that he almost never makes the music we wish he'd make - he makes the music he wants to make. And long may he continue to do so. As has been said before, if he did what others wanted we would probably never have had Tubular Bells in the first place. Surely it's ok to dream however   -------------- "I say I say I say I say, what's got three bottles and five eyes and no legs and two wheels" Back to top

Olivier Group: Super Admins Posts: 1868 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: June 11 2008, 13:20 On the other hand, Mike said he regrets having made songs following what Richard Branson wanted after the success of Moonlight Shadow. It makers me think of these quotes from Steve Jobs of Apple, although listening to music made 30 years ago is a totally different experience than using a computer made 30 years ago: "It took us three years to build the NeXT computer. If we'd given customers what they said they wanted, we'd have built a computer they'd have been happy with a year after we spoke to them - not something they'd want now." "You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new." Back to top

The Caveman Group: Members Posts: 2178 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: June 12 2008, 08:02 I think most of us would love to see him return to electric guitar (i know i would).Something along the lines of Amarok.In Changeling he very pointedly says that he's not going to give a stuff about the charts (I bet he was surprised by the success of MOTS)or being cool and write music he wants to write.Amarok was writen in the same spirit.I don't think there will ever be another Amarok type peice again,being realistic.It was 18 years ago.Maybe the idea to mix the orchestral stuff with the electronic would be interesting.But since he says he's retiring (and who could blame him after such a career)we might never know.On the other hand if he's got a studio set up in his new home then who really believes he will stop creating?   We live in hope. -------------- THE COMING OF THE GREAT WHITE HANDKERCHEIF IS NIGH. Back to top

Tubularman Group: Awaiting Authorisation Posts: 2304 Joined: June 2004 Posted: June 12 2008, 21:32 now that he is back in the baleric sea.. i guess the next album will be yet another good Chill out album i do hope. He seem to enjoy make it and i love chill out. Tres Lunas Official 2 could be something all i miss is electric guitars   -------------- Mike Oldfield M i x e s https://soundcloud.com/tubularman Back to top

Silver Negus Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: June 13 2008, 09:47 Quote (Ugo @ June 09 2008, 18:21) There will never be a "next album", as Mike is retiring. Nah... seriously... he shall probably go down one of the 'easy' formulaic roads (chill out, ambient, or classical) that he's travelled on in his most recent works. What I am pretty sure he'll never do - sorry to disappoint you here, SN - is an Amarok II. He seems to love (and simultaneously hate) that album so much that he has never even considered doing a follow-up to it, and IMHO he never will... By the way, I am a musician. But there's never anything at all which can inspire me to write a piece of music, as I only write songs. And my songs take inspiration from everywhere and everything. Retiring, actually secretly I think a lot of us may be wondering if this is going to be the case in the near future. I think if he did then good luck to him. Ugo, I have not heard Amarok, what does it sound like? Back to top

Silver Negus Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: June 13 2008, 09:55 Quote (Silver Negus @ June 13 2008, 09:47) Quote (Ugo @ June 09 2008, 18:21) There will never be a "next album", as Mike is retiring. Nah... seriously... he shall probably go down one of the 'easy' formulaic roads (chill out, ambient, or classical) that he's travelled on in his most recent works. What I am pretty sure he'll never do - sorry to disappoint you here, SN - is an Amarok II. He seems to love (and simultaneously hate) that album so much that he has never even considered doing a follow-up to it, and IMHO he never will... By the way, I am a musician. But there's never anything at all which can inspire me to write a piece of music, as I only write songs. And my songs take inspiration from everywhere and everything. Retiring, actually secretly I think a lot of us may be wondering if this is going to be the case in the near future. I think if he did then good luck to him. Ugo, I have not heard Amarok, what does it sound like? Actually I seem to remember I did write on one of the other threads in September 2007 that I felt that maybe Mr Oldfield would retire. It would be more ideal for him to concentrate on family matters. Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: June 13 2008, 09:59 Quote (Silver Negus @ June 13 2008, 15:47) Ugo, I have not heard Amarok, what does it sound like? It sounds like a huge mess (52 movements completely different from each other), but a thoroughly organized, well-built, fascinating, hauntingly beautiful mess.  I can't really describe it. if you've never heard it, I'd suggest you to read the Amarok Analysis here on tubular.net, and the various other writings on Amarok scattered around the WWW, before you listen - to kind-of "prepare yourself". Because if you don't prepare yourself, Amarok may hit you - and it may hit you hard. Whether or not this is positive, well, that depents entirely on you. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

The Caveman Group: Members Posts: 2178 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: June 13 2008, 10:04 It's the most amazing peice he's ever written short of Ommadawn.The only possible 'flaw' is it's legnth.It's 60 minutes long with no breaks!It is worth it though as it sounds better listened to in it's entirity.Sit down relax and enjoy.  The original even had a fairy tale written by William Murray who played percussion on Ommadawn and co-wrote On Horseback. -------------- THE COMING OF THE GREAT WHITE HANDKERCHEIF IS NIGH. Back to top

The Caveman Group: Members Posts: 2178 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: June 13 2008, 10:05 That should be the original release.The re-issue doesn't contain the fairy tale. -------------- THE COMING OF THE GREAT WHITE HANDKERCHEIF IS NIGH. Back to top

Silver Negus Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: June 13 2008, 10:08 Quote (Ugo @ June 13 2008, 09:59) Quote (Silver Negus @ June 13 2008, 15:47) Ugo, I have not heard Amarok, what does it sound like? It sounds like a huge mess (52 movements completely different from each other), but a thoroughly organized, well-built, fascinating, hauntingly beautiful mess.  I can't really describe it. if you've never heard it, I'd suggest you to read the Amarok Analysis here on tubular.net, and the various other writings on Amarok scattered around the WWW, before you listen - to kind-of "prepare yourself". Because if you don't prepare yourself, Amarok may hit you - and it may hit you hard. Whether or not this is positive, well, that depents entirely on you. Hmm curious. Sounds like different styles all in one album. -Like a painter adding all kinds of styles in one painting. Kind of reminds me of my child with their ADHD, having multi ideas all at once, and obtaining clever results with it. Back to top

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