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Posted: Oct. 12 2001, 10:50

I promised myself I wouldn't post to Tubular Tech. I knew I wouldn't understand what the heck was being said most of the time. I know that I know nothing about music other than how to listen to it (I think wink). But this question has been nagging inside me to be asked, just out of interest:

As everyone knows, Mike Oldfield has used tubular bells, or chimes, in some of his pieces. So my question is, whose bells has he used over the years?

This is purely a question out of interest, so it doesn't really matter if no one replies (although Korgscrew probably will wink).

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Posted: Oct. 12 2001, 18:51

Orchestral TBs by Premier on TB1. I don't know about his other works.

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Posted: Oct. 12 2001, 19:28

You'll find a picture of Mike (with a load of labels that some fool has written on it...oh, that was me...) with a whole collection of instruments here on tubular.net as part of the discography, which you will find here http://www.tubular.net/discography/OmmadawnInstruments.shtml

Behind him there is a set of bells by Premier (as mentioned by Ugo). We can probably assume from that that he'll have used them on Ommadawn, and also Platinum.

I can't personally verify what brand were used on Tubular Bells, though I believe that they were hired, rather than owned by anyone involved with the making of the album (and we know what the fate of those was...). I believe they were quite a popular make at the time, and I'm sure Ugo has a reliable source for his information, so no more need be said.

Mike tended to use samples later - from a Fairlight CMI on Crises, for example, and a layer of various things on Tubular Bells II (the bell sound there sounds very much like that of a Korg M1 synthesiser to me, a keyboard I know he used a fair amount on the album, though I have heard that the TB2 bell sound was actually created with the help of a Kurzweil K2000 sampling keyboard).

At the moment, I really don't know who made the real bells used more recently. Something Mike said once makes me think that he didn't keep the bells you see in the Througham picture (it was something about how he'd had trouble finding the right kind of bells for making Tubular Bells II), but I know no more...I'll let you know if I uncover anything new.
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Posted: Oct. 12 2001, 20:09

Whoops...forgot about that picture.

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Posted: Oct. 13 2001, 16:38

A friend of mine works for Generalmusic, better known here in italy as GEM. They are, among other things (keyboard makers, piano importers, etc), the Italian distributors of Premier drums & percussion instruments. This guy told me about the Premier TB chimes, and he also told me that the Edimburgh concert bells were by Premier; he also told me that you are right about the ones in your picture, Richard: they're by Premier. smile wink Obviously neither him nor I know about the others having never seen 'em or even a photo of 'em. smile biggrin

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Posted: Oct. 13 2001, 16:42

...and of course he couldn't tell me if Mike's bells were his: GEM/Premier do not keep track of all their worldwide customers... biggrin biggrin

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Posted: Oct. 13 2001, 16:52

Whoops, 3 posts in a row. Olivier'll get angry. wink smile

Sorry, I expressed myself badly. My friend says he's sure that Mike's original TBs were by Premier, because in the 1970-1975 period ALL of the English recording studios bought or rented Premier orchestral percussion (triangles, bass drums, tympani [timpani?? confused], etc.), generally when making classical music recordings. They were the official suppliers of Abbey Road, to quote one of the most famous ones, but they served minor and recently-built studios as well. wink smile

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Posted: June 01 2002, 01:54

i didn't know there were different kinds of tubular bells. i only thought there was one kind

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Posted: June 01 2002, 13:54

Mike said that, when coming to record Tubular Bells II, he had trouble finding the right set of bells...the sound of Tubular Bells (like with most instruments) consists of both the fundamental note and a set of overtones. According to Mike, most that he found produced minor overtones which sounded out of tune in his music. He eventually found a small set that produced a major overtone, and wanted to buy a larger set by the same company, but the makers had stopped trading...so he bought the small set and sampled them. Just a little extra factoid...
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Posted: June 01 2002, 15:43

Interesting... maybe that's why the bells on Orchestral Tubular Bells don't sound quite right (to me, anyway). It's almost as if the performer plays the first note confidently, thinks "aargh, that doesn't sound right" and plays the rest really quietly.
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Posted: June 01 2002, 18:03

The bells on the Boxed version of Tubular Bells sound decidedly dodgy to me - the tuning seems very off.
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Posted: June 07 2002, 10:43

Sampled bells - aaahh, that explains some oddities on the TBII/III DVD I just bought (now that I finally decided to get a DVD player, it needed the right food..)
How much of it was just for show, then ?
For TBII@Edinbourgh, I have noticed three sets of bells - one occasionally played by percussionist, one in the back of the stage played by Mike in the final of part 1, and one (keyboard obviously) to be heard when both were doing something else..
For TBIII@HorseGuard, we have the three fake huge tubes 'played' by Mike, and the real set for the percussionist.
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Posted: June 07 2002, 13:42

I believe that, at least now, Mike uses a set of bells that have a set of MIDI triggers attached, so that they can be used to play the sampled bell sounds that he now uses. If you have a look closely at the real set of bells used in the horseguards concert, you'll notice a little box with a screen on it, on the side of the frame, which appears to be the 'brain'. I suppose it could be said that it's for show, in that the sounds could be played from a keyboard (or a guitar...), but they are played live as far as I'm aware.
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