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Posted: Nov. 11 2004, 07:47

Anyone have any specific reasons why MO (for the genius he is) gets little recognition in the USA?
This talented musician should not have to rely on concerts to promote his music - when are the States going to wake up!!
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Posted: Nov. 11 2004, 10:14

A big part of it for years now has been availability. His albums were pretty easy to find up through Islands. After this, however, they have been hard to find in the US, or they come out as much as 1 year later than they do in the UK. The one exception to this was TB2, which was promoted and easily available right away.

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Posted: Nov. 11 2004, 12:01

the reason dear mike oldfield gets little recognition in the usa is because no one remembers what real bloody music sounds like!.  the usa has only country music to offer the world, every other artist from america now is a manufactured joke!.

it is about time talent like oldfield got the respect they deserve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
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Posted: Nov. 11 2004, 12:11

Quote (RICHARDGORMLIE @ Nov. 11 2004, 12:01)
 the usa has only country music to offer the world,

Take the Dixie Chicks. Please.

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Posted: Nov. 11 2004, 12:23

american pop and r &b is trash!, country and rock music is the only decent music the usa has given the world!.
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Posted: Nov. 11 2004, 12:33

mike oldfield will never get the respect he deserves in any country of the world!!!.
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Posted: Nov. 11 2004, 14:14

I have to agree that Mike has never gotten a fair shake in the USA. But I blame a lot of that on the record labels he's signed with. Starting with Virgin. Branson has done quite well for himself here in America, but failed to see the opportunity to sell Mike properly here. Warner in no better, small minds I guess. BTW- I live in California and have never really had any problem finding Mikes music. When Airborn came out (seems like a million years ago), I found it on the LP rack at a local Payless store (think old 5 & 10 cent store of the early 70's).

As for the US having music to offer. Well let's see... there's rap, there's... well that's about it. I guess we dropped the ball a long time ago. Now all that is available is music written for the mindless masses. Music made to sell to 13 year old boys and girls (boy/girl bands), and of course we have also made famous lawsuits, music copyright protection, and lyrics which must use every 4 letter word known to man, over and over again.

Gone are the days of a really creative guitar riff, a meaningful lyric, or a truely lovely song.

Heavy metal has become amplified noise, ( hasn't it always been though?). Actuallt there are a few bands I like.

Country - well it's the rock and roll of the 90's/00's. Some good, some bad. Mostly repititious.

Rock is dead, taken over by rap.

Rap - well let's not go there.
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Posted: Nov. 11 2004, 16:36

Quote (Mirage @ Nov. 11 2004, 14:14)
I have to agree that Mike has never gotten a fair shake in the USA. But I blame a lot of that on the record labels he's signed with. Starting with Virgin. Branson has done quite well for himself here in America, but failed to see the opportunity to sell Mike properly here. Warner in no better,

I had no problem finding all the but last couple of Virgin releases. In fact, I was even finding such oddities as "Pipe Tune/ Cuckoo Song" and a bright blue 12" single of "Guilty" in stores.

WEA (Warners) is another story. It's a domestic/US label, and they could not bothered to release CD's in a timely fashion in the US, or even release the DVD's at all.


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Posted: Nov. 11 2004, 17:59

to richard gormlie, something about the Chillipepper's you ignorant oik.

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Posted: Nov. 12 2004, 03:32

I have an American book about rock music, and in it Mike Oldfield is listed as a 'one-hit-wonder'  :(  :(  :(

How can a country be so enamoured with Tubular Bells and totally ignore everything else that he does? It dosen't make sense to me.

I still say that there is good music around today. It's just that the good music is not the popular music.


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Posted: Nov. 12 2004, 04:47

Quote (RICHARDGORMLIE @ Nov. 11 2004, 12:23)
american pop and r &b is trash!, country and rock music is the only decent music the usa has given the world!.

Well to be fair, English, French, Italian, Spanish, Australian etc etc pop and r&b is also trash.  America is probably responsible for more varying streams of music than anywhere else in the Western world.  Their rock and country scenes have lots of different artists great and bad, and their indie and folk scenes are also live and kicking.  Never judge a country but its pop chart music I say!

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Posted: Nov. 12 2004, 05:19

Let's not forget that nowadays, R&B means something completely different from what it used to mean several years ago. I wonder when and how that term got so horribly brutalised...

Let's also be fair, and see that the USA always had a resistance against foreign artists. It's hard for European artists, in general, to truly break in. Didn't even The Beatles had a sort of a struggle to gain their shiny spot?


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Posted: Nov. 12 2004, 08:37

I recall a music poll taken of favorite artists in my dorm (in the US). Quite interestingly, the top 3 were the Beatles, Van Halen, and Mike Oldfield. And no, I did not stuff the ballot box to cause this. In fact, I missed the vote entirely. This was around when "Five Miles Out" was released.

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Posted: Nov. 12 2004, 09:18

Very interesting news given that Mike did the 5 miles tour in the USA.. what happened after that?
Mikes music ..brilliant has it was got better yet his fan base never hit it off in the states.
I think a lot of Americans are blinkered, they grow on mass hysteria like the Beatles (screaming pop idols that they are)
Their appreciation for music (maybe because English music never gets played over there) is limited.
For example I cannot believe REM have not caught on yet.. when will they learn?
This is not meant to be an anti - american comment..its just that they are so naive.
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Posted: Nov. 12 2004, 09:35

Where didn't REM catch on? They've been huge a lot of the time in the US. (it might help that they are from Georgia).

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Posted: Nov. 12 2004, 10:25

Quote (hiawatha @ Nov. 12 2004, 09:35)
Where didn't REM catch on? They've been huge a lot of the time in the US. (it might help that they are from Georgia).

REM have been big in the US since the late 80s/early 90s, but it did take a heck of a long time for them to become so big.  They were a student band for years before that.  I was into 'em since 1983 and it was weird watching "my band" grow up in public like that.

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Posted: Nov. 20 2004, 05:09

Hi. Well I am Canadian, and i felt the same way. It is frustrating that Mike's music is not known, well not well known in North America. It is amazing that Mike toured through Canada during the 5 Miles Tour, actually came through my city of Toronto. Playing two shows at the Ryerson Theatre. But unfortunatley for me, I didn't hear anything about it. Which is typical, not anything of publicity about the shows. And the same as the show in New york. I would have travelled there to see Mike live. But once again didn't know anything about it. I would like to see Mike play here soon. As for recognition, all i do is promote Mike's music myself. I play little tidbits of stuff for friends and stuff, to wet their appetite and then I tell them about the man, the music, and they go out and buy some of his stuff. That is all we can do over here. Promote Mike's music ourselves. And cross our fingers Mike decides to tour through our neck of the woods again. LOL. take care. Craig. (the crazy canuck).

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Posted: Nov. 20 2004, 05:30

I'm a Dane living in America, but contemplating moving to the U.K.
I'm not totally surprised as Mike's lack of success in the U.S. Knowing a bit of the culture in the U.S.,(Having lived here awhile now) I get the impression, that few American's really spend much time thinking, they are constantly on the go, and it is tough to find patient, tolerant, educated people here. And Mike's music would appeal to an audience, who believe it best to be your self and be different, rather than to try to fit in, which many in the U.S. try hard to do, by working their rear's off, have many possessions and social skills, but little time to have much use of either.

O.K. I confess, I'm a bit harsh and grossly exagerating, but I agree with many of the coments above that musically the U.S. has very little to offer, they are much better at making movies.  ;)

P.S. I have lived mostly in the mid-west and south, the East and West coasts mentality, I know is somewhat different. :)


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Posted: Nov. 20 2004, 07:17

We do have Neil Young and Larry "Synergy" Fast as truly world-class musical creative geniuses. I'm hard pressed tothink of others.

But wait. Neil Young is actually Canadian. Oh well...

I think a big part of his lack of success here lies with his label, Warner Bros. Yes, they are based in the US, but for some reason, they release his CD's way late. Even worse, they have not printed versions of the two major DVD's of recent years that would play in the US.


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Posted: Nov. 20 2004, 08:36

I worked in California for a couple of years (1995-1997) and never had any trouble finding Mike's music in the bigger stores (the Virgin Megastore in San Francisco being particularly well stocked).  In fact I managed to get all those remixes of Let There Be Light while over there, and Voyager almost as soon as it came out.  However, the prices boggled the mind, Voyager is still far and away the most expensive CD I've ever bought!


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