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Blue Dolphin Group: Members Posts: 1232 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: Aug. 05 2003, 19:50 Check this link EMS Vocoder samples Then scroll down. Have you every heard TB like this? By the way, great vintage vocoder, the EMS vocoder. Used by Kraftwerk. -------------- -The mark of a good musician is to play one note and mean it- Mike Oldfield - 1980 Back to top

olracUK Group: Members Posts: 1683 Joined: June 2003 Posted: Aug. 05 2003, 20:25 ok for your next trick, what the hell are the words? -------------- The answer is 42 - but what is the question? Back to top

Blue Dolphin Group: Members Posts: 1232 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: Aug. 06 2003, 05:24 The same as the other samples. "The EMS Vocoder has been designed... blah blah blah" -------------- -The mark of a good musician is to play one note and mean it- Mike Oldfield - 1980 Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Aug. 06 2003, 10:50 Thanks for diggin' this out, Blue. It's cool. It reminds me of something I heard a lot of time ago...when I was in Disneyland Paris, before the Electrical Parade music (and the parade itself) started, a vocoded voice said "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Main Street Electrical Parade", with each syllable 'played' on a different note. I think that a Disney track called "Main Street Electrical Parade", including the parade music and the intro, is floatin' somewhere in the Web , but the intro's notes, as far as I remember them, didn't seem to form a coherent melody. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Blue Dolphin Group: Members Posts: 1232 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: Aug. 06 2003, 13:28 Hm, dunno. I don't listen to Disney.   But vocoders are cool yes. -------------- -The mark of a good musician is to play one note and mean it- Mike Oldfield - 1980 Back to top

Mike Chadwick Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: May 2003 Posted: Aug. 12 2003, 13:47 thAT'S NICE!!!!!!! -------------- kik-eze kik-eze Back to top

wowser Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: Nov. 2003 Posted: Nov. 29 2003, 16:45 anything Kraftwerk use is worth checking out! -------------- Pointless act! You don't give a five hundred dollar tip to the housekeeper! That's inappropriate! That's inexcusable! Back to top

Jammer Group: Members Posts: 643 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Feb. 19 2004, 17:08 Cool examples. Must have been quite cutting edge at the time! Also shows that you could use vocoders for more things than carrying synth chords. I remember ELO was another band that used the vocoder, albeit in a limited way, on their 'Out of the Blue' album (1978) Track 4's quite amusing. Sounds like Miss Piggy from the Muppets To me, the last example Track 15 is the most interesting. How on earth did they produce this effect? My guess is that you could choose any sound source as the carrier to combine with speech, in this case it's a piece of contrasting speech to another. If any music tech people (such as Korgscrew) could enlighten me on this, I'd be most grateful. Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: Feb. 20 2004, 09:09 Yes - from the way the speech is chopped up, I'd say they've used a recording of an English woman speaking as the carrier and the German man as the modulator. The vocoder has been around since 1940, when it was invented by Homer W Dudley at Bell Laboratories as part of research into compressing speech for transmission down phone lines. Its relative, the voder, was a speech synthesiser - you can read more and hear a sample here: http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/machines/vocoder/ Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: Mar. 19 2004, 09:12 I really liked that Vocoder type sound Mike used on Viper to get that main sound. It was a really nice synth texture especialy when it was used on it's own within the TresLunas game. Back to top

The Bell(end) Group: Members Posts: 1051 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Sep. 21 2005, 12:38 They could have at least read out something more interesting, how about genesis?   But seriously, that is cool! Which model of vocoder was used on Five Miles out?   -------------- When the night's on fi-ya, do you need love's arms to hold yew? :D Back to top

Nicolas Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: Sep. 21 2005, 14:34 Can anybody explain to me exactly how that effect was created? It appears to me that TB was used only as carrier for the pitch, but that it wasn't mixed with the voice.  The voice originally was "flat" and teh pitch of TB gave the voice a musical pitch.  Why does the voice sound metallic? Are those synthesizer-like effects that are onboard the vocoder?  Or is that another signal (a synth sound) mixed with the voice or even a pure vocoded synth sound?  I don't think it is purely a vocoded synth sound, because I can understand the voice too good (which wouldn't happened if the voice itself wasn't in the final mix).  How is the metallic voice created then? Back to top

raven4x4x Group: Members Posts: 1535 Joined: Jan. 2002 Posted: Sep. 22 2005, 06:16 Now that's trippy! Does it remind anyone else of the vocals on Surfing?     -------------- Thank-you for helping us help you help us all. Back to top

bonkers Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Sep. 22 2005, 08:32 used one of them at college there pretty cool Back to top

mindphaser Group: Members Posts: 46 Joined: Aug. 2005 Posted: Oct. 04 2005, 05:44 Quote Which model of vocoder was used on Five Miles out?   That must have been the Roland Vocoder Plus (VP-330), as it's pictured on the inner sleeve of the Discovery LP ("synth corner", on the left side of the picture). Another picture is here -------------- www.facebook.com/thesiliconscientist soundcloud.com/the-silicon-scientist‎ Back to top

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