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ImAFoolAndImLaughing Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: July 17 2006, 14:27 Just thought I'd ask what folks's biggest Mike-related gripes were.  Mine is that whenever I mention to people that Mike Oldfield released an album called "Incantations", someone always thinks it's that bloody album of Pan-pipe music.... Grrr! -------------- "I was in this prematurely air conditioned supermarket and there were these bathing caps you could buy that had these kind of Fourth of July plumes on them that were red and yellow and blue and I wasn't tempted to buy one but I was reminded of the fact that I had been avoiding the beach." Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: July 17 2006, 14:34 My main gripe is that he has had 28 years in which to produce 28 albums on the level of "Incantations" (that's pretty reasonable, at an album a year! ). He's already 28 albums behind on this task! -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

amazarak Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: July 17 2006, 16:25 Maybe it's not the biggest gripe, but I wonder why Mike doesn't use "normally" sounding electric guitarsalong with tubemps. OK, he has his own style, but You know, IMHO his sound is very artificial and gives me much less pleasure than traditional "warm" amp sound. I even think that this is one of the main reasons why Mike is not mentioned along with greatest guitarists of all time. When I once played 5MO to one of my friends who is a guitarists himself, his reaction was: "Wow, great music, but WHY A HECK THIS GUITAR SOUNDS LIKE FROM A POOR *.mid ???". One of the reasons why I love 10th Anniversary performence are the guitars - sounding MUCH better than "usual Mike" cheers amazarak -------------- Just hold your heading true Got to get your finest out Back to top

Harmono Group: Members Posts: 759 Joined: May 2005 Posted: July 17 2006, 17:53 Quote (amazarak @ July 17 2006, 16:25) OK, he has his own style, but You know, IMHO his sound is very artificial and gives me much less pleasure than traditional "warm" amp sound. I even think that this is one of the main reasons why Mike is not mentioned along with greatest guitarists of all time. True. I love his signature guitar sound but for many people it totally ruins the whole experience! I have heard people calling it ugly many times and some even claim that his guitars hurt their ears. With different sounds, what would the music be like? We have heard many cover tracks, do they give us a hint of how Oldfield could sound like with more "normal" sounds? since sound is an important aspesct in making music, I find this very interesting. cheers Back to top

OneGeneratuonTooLate Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: April 2006 Posted: July 18 2006, 01:32 What gets me the most is his collaborations with horrible singers that ruin a entire peice, like Five Miles Out or Shadow on the Wall. I do like Maggie Reilly however. Back to top

SentinelGard Group: Members Posts: 358 Joined: June 2003 Posted: July 18 2006, 05:54 My biggest gripe would have to be that Mike hasn't come to Australia yet to tour ..LOL.. But appart from that Mike ROCKS ..   -------------- "Onwards & Upwards'" Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: July 18 2006, 08:47 Quote (OneGeneratuonTooLate @ July 18 2006, 01:32) What gets me the most is his collaborations with horrible singers that ruin a entire peice, like Five Miles Out or Shadow on the Wall. I do like Maggie Reilly however. On "Five Miles Out" the song, aren't there just two "horrible singers": himself, and Maggie Reilly (whom you like)? -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

Ratty Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: Jan. 2005 Posted: July 18 2006, 09:02 Quote (SentinelGard @ July 18 2006, 10:54) My biggest gripe would have to be that Mike hasn't come to Australia yet to tour ..LOL.. But appart from that Mike ROCKS ..   He did!! he called it the Boomerang tour!! he was back in england before it started!!!! hah hah -------------- Far away across the field The tolling of the iron bell Calls the faithful to their knees To hear the softly spoken magic spells Back to top

Ratty Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: Jan. 2005 Posted: July 18 2006, 09:18 My biggest gripe about Mike Oldfield is that he has not done a UK tour in bloody years!!!! Apart from that, id buy him a guiness!!!! -------------- Far away across the field The tolling of the iron bell Calls the faithful to their knees To hear the softly spoken magic spells Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: July 18 2006, 14:11 Quote (hiawatha @ July 18 2006, 08:47) Quote (OneGeneratuonTooLate @ July 18 2006, 01:32) What gets me the most is his collaborations with horrible singers that ruin a entire peice, like Five Miles Out or Shadow on the Wall. I do like Maggie Reilly however. On "Five Miles Out" the song, aren't there just two "horrible singers": himself, and Maggie Reilly (whom you like)? Sure are, Mike sang all the male vocal leads on that (superb) track, as far as I know anyway. My biggest Mike gripe is that there seems to be a re-writing of musical history going on that just doesn't include him. Mojo magazine recently did an in depth 70's special issue where they went through and looked at all the big 70's players and all the 70's albums that 'really mattered' and as far as I could see anyway (I didn't buy the magazine but flicked through it in the shop) they didn't mention Mike at all. Its scandalous. Looking at his career at the moment I just wish he had stuck to his artistic guns, or at least realised what they were in the first place, something which I'm not really sure he's always been aware of. He's always been a mass of contradictions and its there in his music I think. Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1767 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: July 18 2006, 14:17 "Gripe is an indoor sporting arena located in Split, Croatia. It features two halls. The seating capacity of the larger one is 6000. It is used for many sports, as well as concerts" (From Wikipedia.com) My english dictionary fails. What's a gripe? -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

amazarak Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: July 18 2006, 14:24 According to Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English: Quote informal 1 [countable] something unimportant that you complain about synonym: complaint My main gripe was the price of refreshments. cheers amazarak -------------- Just hold your heading true Got to get your finest out Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: July 18 2006, 14:40 Quote (larstangmark @ July 18 2006, 14:17) "Gripe is an indoor sporting arena located in Split, Croatia. It features two halls. I guessing that everything is divided in two in this particular town. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1548 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: July 18 2006, 14:59 Quote (amazarak @ July 17 2006, 16:25) "Wow, great music, but WHY A HECK THIS GUITAR SOUNDS LIKE FROM A POOR *.mid ???". One of the reasons why I love 10th Anniversary performence are the guitars - sounding MUCH better than "usual Mike" There is some truth in that yes... I wondered about the distortion bits of OUt of Sight/Mind from Guitars. His distortion sounds very different to that by other guitarists, much more produced in a way... I still like the tracks though -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

Moz Group: Musicians Posts: 600 Joined: July 2005 Posted: July 18 2006, 15:01 Quote (larstangmark @ July 18 2006, 19:17) "Gripe is an indoor sporting arena located in Split, Croatia. It features two halls. The seating capacity of the larger one is 6000. It is used for many sports, as well as concerts" (From Wikipedia.com) My english dictionary fails. What's a gripe? Wikipedia is not a dictionary! -------------- Twitter: @benbarden Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: July 18 2006, 15:44 And ironically 'Wikipedia' isn't in the dictionary. Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: July 18 2006, 16:06 1)Mike as a singer,he did an ab fab job on Heaven's Open,I'd love to listen more of his singing talents(not that vocal performance like on Rite of Man,where he's singing with his normal voice) 2)He's not as popular as much prog rockers out there,even with his back catalogue which has got more to offer(especially the 70's long instrumentals + Amarok) than some other prog rock acts. 3)Being reconized as a guitar player than a multiinstrumentist in the very first place.Like some others said before,the problem is the sounds that comes from his guitars,which sounds not that natural at all for some guitar experts. -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

dM Flimp Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: July 2006 Posted: July 18 2006, 21:34 i think his classics stoped after platinum.thats when he went into pop. but i will make an acception for amorak -------------- Kraftwerk Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn. Vor uns liegt ein weites Tal, Die Sonne scheint mit Glitzerstrahl. Back to top

timshen Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: Mar. 2001 Posted: July 18 2006, 22:30 Quote "Gripe is an indoor sporting arena located in Split, Croatia. It features two halls." Wikipedia Hiawatha said, "I guessing that everything is divided in two in this particular town." Ha..ha. Maybe they split coz they had a gripe against each other! But seriously. My greatest gripe is that fans today seem to always gripe about Mike "losing it" and longing for the "good old days". True, he's had his good and bad albums but to me some of the good ones have also been recent ones and there are good ones all through his career. -------------- Expect Great Things. Attempt Great Things. Back to top

TubularBelle Group: Members Posts: 1487 Joined: April 2004 Posted: July 18 2006, 23:09 My biggest gripe is that he is not sitting in my lounge right this minute serenading me on his guitar. -------------- I hate getting up early. I didn't even realise there were two 6 o'clocks in one day! Back to top

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