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clubbedougan Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: Aug. 2002 Posted: June 17 2003, 08:07 After hearing yet another Tubular Bells, Im deeply annoyed that Mike keeps churning out the same theme time and time again. Now I know it may be his record label that it putting him up to it, but Im growing very tired of these slightly different versions which I believe waste the original. Although TBIII had its high-points, it was a real ibiza album and I much preferred his Instrumental music. Now, I don't want to stay in the past and have only Mike make music similar to Ommadawn etc., but hes branching into different fields and it doesn't work TB2003 is a clear example of it not working. The touches I loved on the vinyl on the original release were glossened over and it felt much more dreamy and less passionate, more electronic than the original. I recently saw in the paper that he'll be going back to his pastoral/instrumental roots. Better late than never! Michael. -------------- Where will we go when we grow old? Back to top

BOOsTER Group: Musicians Posts: 1024 Joined: Jan. 2003 Posted: June 17 2003, 09:41 even if I agree about your opinion on TB2003 I was really disappointed with it but I am gonna comment the subject Mike will never be the same again. He can't as a musician he's still developing as all the other musicians are but we can't judge the direction of his development so we better shut up with these discussions and wait if Mike will be same again or not..huh? -------------- http://www.djbooster.net Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: June 17 2003, 12:47 Why can't we judge the direction of his development? Fair enough we shouldn't really try and second guess what he's going to do next but that doesn't mean to say we shouldn't have opinions about where he goes with his music, generaly speaking, in the future. Since we now know for sure Mike is open to our opinions about what we would like to hear from him, I think it's of interest to us and him if we all share our thoughts. Back to top

BOOsTER Group: Musicians Posts: 1024 Joined: Jan. 2003 Posted: June 17 2003, 13:34 I mean that if you are fan...you don't judge you like that's all -------------- http://www.djbooster.net Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: June 17 2003, 14:07 What unquestionably? I know the word 'fan' comes from the word 'fanatic' but I'm not (thankfully) that fanatic. Anyway if you were 'really disappointed with it' (TB2003) then youv'e judged him yourself. Back to top

BOOsTER Group: Musicians Posts: 1024 Joined: Jan. 2003 Posted: June 17 2003, 15:01 now...you got me well I judged TB 2003. it's in comparison to TB73 really poor ...misses the spirit but I think we can't judge what Mike is up to...maybe TB2003 style is right direction but not with this album... argh sorry for my confused thoughts:) one more thing...I said I was disappointed with TB2003 but I did not say I don't like it -------------- http://www.djbooster.net Back to top

clubbedougan Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: Aug. 2002 Posted: June 17 2003, 15:13 I felt very sorry for Mike that after 30 years he's still working on Tubular Bells. Its a great piece of work and so were TBII, Ommadawn, Hergest Ridge, Crises and some others. His work really should have progressed but in a good way. I felt very disspirited upon hearing Tres Lunas too. Whats happened to him? Also, how come it was released by Warner Music Spain? This makes no sense to a troubled Oldfield fan here! Michael. -------------- Where will we go when we grow old? Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: June 17 2003, 17:20 Well Mike's biggest market is Spain, he's still very, very popular there, also WEA(Spain) were one of the few labels which showed any interest in Mike's MVR project. Unfortunately I think the record buying public and the music industry at large also felt sorry for Mike working on TB again, if TB2 and 3 didn't exist he would have got away with it artisticaly but probably not commercialy. It would interesting to know how Mike's career would have panned out had he not done either of the other two TB albums. Its weird for me actualy because TB2003 has led me to reapraise TB2 for some strange reason, I've started listening to it again for the first time in ages. Some of it I still think is utterly awfull (The Bell, Altered State) but a lot of the rest of the actual music is very, very lovely, I just wish it wasn't so over produced. Back to top

MusicallyInspired Group: Musicians Posts: 1445 Joined: June 2001 Posted: June 17 2003, 21:53 Quote it's in comparison to TB73 really poor ...misses the spirit Yes.....missed it and created a brand new one Quote Some of it I still think is utterly awfull (The Bell, Altered State) but a lot of the rest of the actual music is very, very lovely, I just wish it wasn't so over produced. I think The Bell is better than Finale. And I like the music on Altered State but all the voices and stuff is too not-funny (aka corny) to put in. I think if Trevor Horn never was a part of it, it would have turned out much better. But I do like how Sentinel turned out. It's better than it's Early Stages counterpart, anyway. Funny, TB2 was always my favorite bell and I thought that TB2003 would make TB1 my favorite bell but it still isn't. TB2 just has more music and more complexity.....well maybe not...but to my ears it does. It sounds like there's a lot more going on. But TB1 is now my second favorite whereas it never used to be. Quote Whats happened to him? It's all Trevor Horn's fault. He made him think 'less is more'. He even admitted on the Elements interview while discussing TB2 and Trevor Horn "My problem is I have too many ideas..." he just went downhill from there. Though he seemed to give one last breath with TSODE (and what a last breath it was! but that was it. Nothing major after that. TB3 was impacting, but in a more 'commercial' way and not so much an 'amazing' and 'beautiful' way. -------------- BrandonBlume.com "The beauty in life is in the embracing of the variety of things. If all the world was blue there would be no colour blue." Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: June 18 2003, 15:36 Quote (MusicallyInspired @ June 17 2003, 21:53) Quote Whats happened to him? It's all Trevor Horn's fault. He made him think 'less is more'. He even admitted on the Elements interview while discussing TB2 and Trevor Horn "My problem is I have too many ideas..." he just went downhill from there. Though he seemed to give one last breath with TSODE (and what a last breath it was! but that was it. Nothing major after that. TB3 was impacting, but in a more 'commercial' way and not so much an 'amazing' and 'beautiful' way. This is strange coming from you, in view of your avatar. Or do you just like the image?   Back to top

bevy Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: Nov. 2002 Posted: June 18 2003, 15:57 Booster i know what ure saying but there are some tracks on some MO albums I do skip, so its not always right just to say MO done it so its cool.. But I myself did like TB 2003 but I also think it was just 2 celebrate 30 years of TB. I am sure Mike was (before) and is now working on new tunes. you can record an album in a matter of weeks, but it takes month's/years to write an album.this music was ready 2 be re-recorded and would not have takin much effort other than 2 play/record and mix. hey we would have all been saying "why didnt mike do something for the 30th birthday of TB" well he did.. chill guys.. summit new will be comming Back to top

MusicallyInspired Group: Musicians Posts: 1445 Joined: June 2001 Posted: June 18 2003, 20:08 Quote This is strange coming from you, in view of your avatar. Or do you just like the image? Yes, I suppose I unintentionally sounded quite anti post-TSODE there, didn't I? My avatar is from the cover artwork (which my good friend Mige Iranzo made for me) of my Tr3s Lunas 2 compilation - something I made because I wasn't happy with Tr3s Lunas and the rest of the music in the game was better. And the main reason, because I wanted everyone to be able to hear all the music from MVR. And just in case, I'm not saying that TB3 is very commercial...it's an awesome album...just more commercial than the rest. Like, the solo on FATC was done in a way that more commercial songs would have done. I don't know how to explain myself here. I do like all his post-TSODE stuff very much, but I think TSODE was his last epic-scale awesome classic-Oldfield album he ever did. -------------- BrandonBlume.com "The beauty in life is in the embracing of the variety of things. If all the world was blue there would be no colour blue." Back to top

SentinelGard Group: Members Posts: 358 Joined: June 2003 Posted: June 18 2003, 22:09 I would have to agree there on some issues for example i picked a copy of Earth Moving to add to my MO collection and all i can say is "What the Fuck is this". Its very different and i know that its was recorded in the 80's but hell its crap.... -------------- "Onwards & Upwards'" Back to top

bevy Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: Nov. 2002 Posted: June 20 2003, 22:22 Quote (SentinelGard @ June 18 2003, 22:09) I would have to agree there on some issues for example i picked a copy of Earth Moving to add to my MO collection and all i can say is "What the Fuck is this". Its very different and i know that its was recorded in the 80's but hell its crap.... hey rip his post for this, but deep down i bet u know where he is comming from,,yeh?? Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: June 21 2003, 04:31 Of course   Back to top

raven4x4x Group: Members Posts: 1535 Joined: Jan. 2002 Posted: June 21 2003, 21:40 I for one am excited to see where Mike goes next in terms of music. If you track his musical styles, he's had so many changes of direction, from the long instrumentals, to songs, back to instrumentals and to the more chill-out styles. When a musician changes style so much, its unfair to expect to love everything he does, as there will always be something you don't like. That's all this is, a matter of personal opinion, and if you don't like his current style then there's no reason to call him to radically change again to suit you. There has been plenty of stuff that Mike has done that I don't like, but I just don't listen to them, and I stick to the ones I do like. -------------- Thank-you for helping us help you help us all. Back to top

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